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Be non-violent -- or I'll kill you.


God, I just fuggin' hated Klaatu from the moment he opened his mouth. Every smug, condescending word made me want to punch him more. And when he got to his solution, I just knew it was coming, because that's the kind of movie this is, I could tell. Other threads on here have posted on what a horrible message, what a balls-out terrifying solution Klaatu's solution is, so I don't feel the need to explain it. If I was an Earthling in this movie, my immediate course of action would be to start searching for a way to kill the robots before our all-powerful android overlords come down to destroy us all if we misbehaved.

And I want to believe that maybe the filmmakers realized this, realized what a true horror Klaatu is. But I really doubt it. Every scene, with the petty and stupid humans daring to disagree and have conflict, and distrust the alien invader, is set up to make them look like idiots. The only people who aren't made to look grubby and disgusting are the woman and the professor sucking up to Michael Rennie. Then there are the Jesus parallels, and his final scene, where he smiles benevolently upon society and the woman looks up beatifically at him. This movie is so stupid. If it brings up interesting questions, it does so entirely by accident.

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Yes it is horrifying. What's wrong with a science fiction movie having a horrifying premise? He came to deliver a message and the first thing that happened was that he got shot and later killed. What he really told them was not to endanger other beings in the universe or we will simply eliminate you. Klaatu didn't say he was Jesus, some other people did. Personally, I missed the parallels. I don't think we are supposed to 'like' Klaatu as much as believe him.

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This is one of the things I loved about the film, it doesn't tell you which way is right, it just gives you both sides of the issue, and let's you decide. I agree that "be good or we'll kill you" is stupid, but it's the mere fact that the film was made so artfully that it let's the audience make that choice, that makes it a classic. Some people just seem to want to be spoonfed, what a sad thing to want from a film.

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Some people just seem to want to be spoonfed, what a sad thing to want from a film.
by - WALL-E-field on Mon Oct 27 2008 00:00:57
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Jeepers, I wish I was as smart as you think you are.

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I find Klaatu and his robots to be tyrannical. He claims to be so much more advanced than us, yet he is using the exact same reasoning. A misguided poster made the argument that if you were peaceful but your neighbor was violent that you'd do something about it. He made this sound very reasonable, and he meant it to be in support of Klaatu. Yet that argument goes both ways.

Humans come into violent conflict because they are thinking beings. They kill for their ideas, for their needs, and for the needs of their children. Do Palestinians and Israelis kill each other over religion? No, they don't, they kill each other because each feels they need the land they have or once had. They want that land not for them as much as they do for the offspring that will one day inherit it.

Why can't they just share it together? People are different. The idea that everyone can get along without any strife, without any mistrust, is childish. It is the kind of thing that you learn in grade school, but many people grow out of it. They mature and they think about why people are what they are.

Some things are worth killing for. Those things being life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Everything can be used for the wrong purposes. You could kill someone for the freedom to rape, for the right to a fascist government, or you could kill to fill your wallet.

Conversely, you could kill the man attempting to rape your daughter, you could kill or the fascist here to silence you for speaking out, and you could kill the thief attempting to rob you of your livelihood. This is something Klaatu doesn't understand, nor do his supporters. They for the most part who live safer lives than most, this enables them to not only preach but also practice perfect peace. Not everyone is that fortunate, some people have no choice but to live in places where people who wish to do them harm are a constant threat. Would you rob them of their right to defend themselves? Yes, you would. You've already proven that. There are powerful lobbies eager to prosecute home owners for defending what belongs to them, eager to scold a woman for inviting rape by dressing proactively, and eager to steal from the public the ability to protect themselves from an ever growing government.

Arrogance is the only word for it. You ask me to give up everything for you, all self-determination. You think that you know better than I how I should safeguard myself, you insist that you are more dedicated to the preservation of my life and wellbeing than I am. I just wish that you and people like you could understand that trust is not unconditional, it must be earned first. I would never trust Klaatu or his people and the fact that he has no tolerance for my mistrust indicates to me that he cannot be trusted. He is not willing to try and see things from my perspective and has threatened every person who lives, will live, and HAS lived on Earth.

I'd make peace with my fellow man, if only so that united together we advance and eventually bring an end to Klaatu's tryanny.

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This is not really hypocritical at all. The only way to truly enforce anything, is to use superior force against non-compliants in order to force compliance.

That is in fact how humans govern themselves and it would also have to be how anyone else governs themselves.

If you point a gun at another person, that is wrong, and the cops are gonna shoot you dead for it. They are not going to say: "Oh, you can't point guns at people because it's wrong, but me pulling a gun and shooting you is wrong too, so therefore I'm not gonna do that either." They would just shoot you dead, and that's that. End of story.

Do you, OP, find this as hypocritical as you are blaming Klaatu for being?

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The problem I have with Klaatu/Gort (and I assume some of the other posters from what I have read) is they seem to know whats best for us and will not allow us in inhabited outter space (with weapons for protection),in other words we relinguish self-determinism to them because they say so not because we have attacked another planet,especially one 250 million miles away. Please Gort kill us if we attack someone, not just because history has taught us some groups can have ulterior motives and not be trusted.



There wouldn't be any weapons in space, other than on the peace-enforcing robots and their ships; and a few criminals who wanna test them and get obliterated (a minor issue; crime is everywhere, what can you do but enforce against it).

Humans wouldn't be threatened in space under that system (other than a few rogue incidents involving criminals), hence there is no need to take weapons into space. In the event that some humans got into a violent encounter in space, just call the robot police and they will go deal with the problem.

That is to say, what you are talking about is not really an issue due to how the system is presented in the movie. Which is a great strength of the movie that they worded it so carefully.

Additionally, Klaatu doesn't explicitly say that they can't carry weapons into space (although perhaps he does imply it). All that he explicitly says is that they can't carry their irresponsibility and aggression into space.

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Klaatu COULD theoretically have tried to put some sense into people, but he is smart enough to know that humanity won't understand the message in any other way.


"Be non-violent -- or I'll kill you" is just a simplified version of something like "Don't be a menace to yourself and the universe.You need to realize that war cannot bring anything good" made specifically for humanity, cause humanity wouldn't understand it otherwise.

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That isn't what he said, and thus you missed the entire point.

Klaatu didn't give a crap if we destroyed ourselves or our planet in the original. He, and the group of planets he represented simply didn't want us bringing nukes into space.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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Klaatu is the alien version of "Billy Jack" Peace through violence. Minus the karate kicks of course.

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He didn't say "At the first sign of internal violence GORT will step in", and in fact he had already explained himself in more depth. He, like most people, tried to explain himself multiple ways. But ultimately his point was this: Do not bring your warlike attitudes\nukes into space or GORT will come back.

He said outright that he doesn't care what we do on our own planet, but that should we attempt to start an interplanetary war that the group he represents would be forced to deal with us using GORT.

Prof. Farnsworth: Oh. A lesson in not changing history from Mr. I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!

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After reading many of the posts here, it seem that the problem Klaatu had in getting heads of state to gather together to listen to his message remains a human deficit. We, in the highly technological world, are a very insecure people. And, despite our 'intellegence' are rather thick.

His message was very clear and succinct. It just goes over our heads.




When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property - Thomas Jefferson

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Klaatu is like a father who sees worried how his children behaves like little scoundrels. When he is fed up and afraid of what his children may do to each other, he takes his belt and says: "OK children stop being such a bullies and spoiled brats! better behave or I'll have to punish you!"
...And the kids behave.

Is not the best way to educate children but sometimes is the only thing a parent can do before it's too late.


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Klatuu himself said the system wasn't perfect...but it worked. Also, they weren't concerned until powers were developed to destroy outside the earth.

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Utilitarian - same as Helen.






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