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Why is this crap so famous in US?


This is an ok movie, I'm sure that back then its sfx were on par with Avatar (another just ok movie btw). But Americans decided to hold it as a classic for the ages for some reasons I can't quite fathom.

This is almost obscure outside of the US, something that will shock most Americans but that's a fact. Most people in the world know of the Wizard of Oz, as a name, that's about it.
No Dorothy, Toto, Tin Man etc. Nor very popular side icons like munchkins or witches of the East or flying monkeys. All that is not popular knowledge anywhere else. This is not shown every year on tv or whatever, at least not since 1939 :-)

So why do you think Americans keep it as something so special in their tradition?

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SFX

LOL

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I know, but those were state of the art good.
Like how they made the tornado.

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Why do you care? It's just a movie.

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Why not? It's a beloved movie on one side of the globe, almost obscure in the rest.
Wanna understand why.

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It's not about the movie. It's because you want to take a jab at Americans. Enjoy!

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It's not about the movie. It's because you want to take a jab at me. Enjoy!

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You make it easy with how you act like an arrogant jerk who cannot stand anyone liking this film. ,Frankly you waste time attacking this instead of going on a board of a movie you do like. I dont like Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 2 or 3 and have sometimes replied to a topic there but I don't go around attacking people who like them

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What? Where did I do that?
I haven't attacked anybody for liking this movie, I only responded harshly against arrogant jerks like you that attack me instead of replying to my inquiry.

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Because you say you hate America which is where I live. And when you say stupid things like this movie is bad compared to today's standards it just makes you look like some little kid who can't appreciate any movie that isn't modern.

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Why do you keep putting words in my mouth?

I haven't said one of the things you listed there, you dickless liar.
Now sod off troll.

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That was uncalled for.

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Perhaps because once upon a time, when there was only a few TV channels, this was one of the regular big movies. Not just in the USA, but also the UK and elsewhere for all I know. Not seen it for many years but remember it well and I'd expect most people I know do too.

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Indeed, the British Film Institute has declared it a must-see film.

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What about it?

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Nostalgia, perhaps? My kids watch it even now and they enjoy it.

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Today is the 81st anniversary of the premier of one of the all time classic films. That OP compares this to Avatar shows where is peanut brain is at.

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The Wizard of Oz does have a special place for Americans and there’s a reason for that… The movie is adapted, rather closely, from the novel by L. Frank Baum. Baum set out, and succeeded in, writing an American Fairy Tale. Children’s literature of the day was really pretty European. The Brothers Grimm (bowdlerized versions), Water Babies and Alice in Wonderland were the biggies in 1900. Oz was a very American thing with slang and contemporary humor. The film of 1939 was a long way from being the first adaptation but it had a couple of remarkable advantages: It was in color and the sepia framing sequences evoked a timely sense of the depression era. The imagery of the witches is wholly in line with American images of the Halloween witch, that has bent and commercialized European tradition almost out of recognition. In addition to its American roots, the movie has worn well because:
1) It is a brightly colored and very slick production.
2) The music and songs still feel pretty timeless.
3) It tells a good story and the humor still works.
4) Americans have a whole complicated connection to Judy Garland as a tragic figure. She is also a gay icon. The phrase “friend of Dorothy” goes back to the ‘40s as code for a gay man. (Presumably a derivation of “Friend of Bill W.” – The AA code phrase).
Personally, I would love to have a version even closer to the novels, but the somewhat overly dark, Return to Oz was not a great success. The current tendency does seem to be in that direction still, with the impact of Wicked and stuff like Oz the Great and Powerful.

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Thanks for the awesome reply.

That explains a lot of what I asked. I am really impressed and enlightened from it.
Let me say it again, thank you.

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Yeah, that answer was lightyear's beyond your ability to understand for yourself. Maybe you should learn a lesson from preemptively calling something crap that you learn is not later on. If you are so film-flam flippity-floppity you should think twice about why you post your questions in such a way. If you just want human attention, then give it to others.

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