DeSantis 2024?
He is becoming more and more popular everyday
shareHey, why not? He knows how to govern. He has my vote!
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No worries from me. My college professor told me no way a republican is winning the white house anytime soon. Mail in voting is now a norm and democrats will make sure every citizen in every urban strong hold will get their vote heard. Not to mention when Biden gives amnesty to the 12 million or so undocumented here now, they also will vote democrat. Your man or any other republican would never stand a chance
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The Dems will be surprised when they will see that immigrants will vote Republican!
shareWhy would they? My college professor said that immigrants will always vote democrat majority wise because of all the added benefits the democrats promise them
shareSome countries are more conservative-oriented thats why i think they would vote conservative
shareCome on Goofy ... think for yourself. Maybe your college professor (always a loaded term around here) is right, or maybe he/she is wrong - think for yourself and make your own decisions based on facts that you seek out and vet.
So, what do you really think? It sounds like you might be a closet Republicans trying to participate in a little story here?
Heck no I am no republican. Immigration will help the democrats. It always has in the past and this country has too many white racists living here. The demographics must change in America
share> Immigration will help the democrats.
What is your basis for thinking that? Why are Republicans always cagily Pro-Immigration if that is so?
There are not really that many white racists in this country. We white people are moving past that, but Republicans want to keep it alive as it has been a weapon in their vicious crusade to oppose democracy and to turn people against each other in order to exploit people, even Republicans..
The Republican party is made up from the kind of people who are so clueless they don't even realize that when they rage and riot and push what they think they want they're getting screwed by their own leaders. That is the kind of mental level some Americans are at, and in order to maximize support Republicans have to go through hell, and put the rest of us through hell to activate and energize them with the new internet technology.
Every White person should be against immigration, regardless if he is a "racist" or not. In fact, every American should be against immigration the US has today.
shareIn 2024 it will be an italian-american fight between Cuomo and DeSantis. Sounds good!
shareWrong! It will be Kamala against maybe DeSantis and Kamala would coast to an easy electoral win
shareMaybe. I dont know. Biden probably wont run for a second term for age reasons,so the Dems will probably do the primaries. Kamala did bad in the previous Dem primaries,but the work of vice-president will surely give her more prestige,so she could win them maybe! We will see! Other Dem candidates could be Cuomo,Buttigieg or Warren.
shareAs long as mail in voting remains firmly in place, the democrats will win every national election. They will make sure no vote goes uncounted in every major downtown city in America
shareKamala will not run. She had gotten relegated to that background spot that VP's always do. The only way Harris becomes President is if Joe Biden dies in office, and that's very doubtful. She is a terrible debater and a very weak candidate - unless she starts to get some positive coverage and traction in the media. Same reason Pence might run but he will never win.
And whether a Democrats "coasts" easily to victory will sadly be dependent on whether the Republicans can block everything Biden wants to do. That is an awfully bad way for us to have our country governed.
No way Sleepy runs in 2024. He will be too old. Of course he cant pubblicy say it now,because it would take away the (little) credibility he has,but around Early 2023 he will announce he wont run in 2024. Then,its up to the Dems to decide if run with Kamala or doing the primaries.
shareNo President has or would ever announce they are running for the next term ... but, it's just one of those things Republicans do to pick out a nothing and try to spin it into an ugly something. Even Trump hasn't announced if he will run or not.
98% of your posts are like thing ... nothing but rude and nasty nothing burger attacks on Democrats and fake praise for Republicans ... but, I guess that's what you get paid for.
I wish i would get paid lmao but i think everyone knows Biden cant run in 2024. He will be too old so towards the end of his term he will announce it,to give to the party the time to organize themselves.
shareMaybe ... maybe not. If he rolls over the Republicans and gets his Build Back Better agenda rolling he will be unstoppable. In any case I think most people are onto the illogical viciousness of Republicans and their turnout will be lower. That's why the attacks on the voting process itself. Everything Republicans do is anti-democratic and anti-people.
shareWhat is anti-democratic about asking voters to verify they are legally allowed to vote before voting?
shareThe way you ask it, you are being dishonest, like a typical cheating Republican. If you explained a little clearer what Republicans are doing, which you probably don't even know you'd understand.
Most all Democrats are not against Voter ID, they are against taking people who can legally vote off the voters rolls, or forcing their ballots into provisional status. Also, accepting forms of ID to register that are more common among Republicans and ruling out IDs that are common to Democrats.
The Republicans know they simply have to cheat and undercut democracy ... they've publicly said it many times - so why don't you just admit it?
No one is in favor of removing people who are legally allowed to vote from the voter rolls. Sane people of any party affiliation want to prohibit the rampant fraud that took place in the last election. Surely the Arizona audit opened your eyes to the staggering level of voter fraud that resulted in a stolen election. If you are able to see the results of that audit, as well as the overwhelming evidence from all over the US, as proof that the Democrats can only win through cheating, then there's no point to this discussion. At that point it becomes me trying to explain to you that the earth is round, while you shake your head and say "flat."
share> No one is in favor of removing people who are legally allowed to vote from the voter rolls.
That is exactly what Republicans have been doing - and reported on doing since at least before 2000.
Look up Chris Koback and Interstate Crosscheck, where they find felon names with ethnic associations, Brown, Washington, Martinez, Sanchez, ... surnames where there was a presumption that most matches would be Democrats, and then they sent these felons names all around the country where Republican elections officials removed from the voter rolls people WITH SIMILAR NAMES ... that is, they threw out voters with obvious non-matches.
It is you who supports the flat Earth theory liar. Republicans have to lie and cheat because without that they would never get elected. Without weighting the votes towards slave states, and states with tiny populations they would never win. Without massive media propaganda, and massive voter intimidation they would never win.
The pool of stupid people who would vote against their own self interest and what's best for the country is limited, which is why Republicans also seek to limit the teaching of history, and dumb-down the schools.
What fringe web sites are filling your head with this nonsense?
sharehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_Voter_Registration_Crosscheck_Program#Discrimination_allegations
https://www.aclukansas.org/en/press-releases/aclu-kansas-settlement-puts-crosscheck-out-commission-foreseeable-future-program
https://www.facingsouth.org/2016/09/controversial-anti-voter-fraud-program-risks-disenfranchising-voters-through-racial-bias
https://www.aclukansas.org/en/press-releases/aclu-kansas-settlement-puts-crosscheck-out-commission-foreseeable-future-program
https://www.aclukansas.org/en/cases/moore-v-schwab-previously-moore-v-kobach
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-247905/
https://www.aclukansas.org/en/news/colorado-withdraws-crosscheck
https://www.aclukansas.org/en/news/illinois-drops-out-controversial-crosscheck-anti-voter-fraud-program
https://www.aclukansas.org/en/news/illinois-ends-participation-multi-state-voter-database
https://www.kssos.org/forms/communication/canvassing_kansas/dec13.pdf
https://idahonews.com/news/truth-squad/ada-county-wrongly-strips-more-than-750-voter-registrations
BOISE, Idaho (KBOI) - Hundreds of people in Ada County have been stripped of their voter registration when they shouldn't have been.share
It all came to light when KBOI's Truth Squad received a call from a woman in Eagle, saying her husband received a letter that said his voter registration was taken away. When the Truth Squad began making calls, Idaho Secretary of State Ben Ysursa, said it alerted him to the magnitude of the problem countywide.
Charmaine Miller, the Eagle resident, read the letter her husband received in the mail.
"Dear David...you are currently registered in Arizona. Based on this information, we have canceled your registration in Ada County, Idaho," she said.
"We've never been in Arizona," Miller told KBOI.
Ysursa explains that the mix-up happened because for the first time, Idaho is taking part in the Interstate Voter Registration Cross Check program. Under it, Idaho and the 27 other states, cross check their voter databases.
Trump/DeSantis 2024, then DeSantis/Hawley 2028, DeSantis/Hawley 2032, Hawley/Cruz 2036... at least that's what my republican neighbour told me.
shareTrump won't pick DeSantis as a running mate. Way I see it he's probably the biggest threat to Trump securing a nomination, however unlikely it is the Republicans would give it to Trump.
shareIf Trump secures the nomination, why wouldn't he pick DeSantis as his running mate?
shareBecause he sees him as competition not an ally.
He's not an enemy after Trump secures the nomination. Biden and Obama ran against each other, then became running mates. Same goes for Biden and Kamala.
shareExactly. I think it will be damn near impossible for Trump to find anyone who will take his BS, smile and ask for more like Pence did.
shareHe will save America in 2024
shareI’d vote for him.
shareHe's young he can wait for 2028.Anyway who wants to succeed Biden after he ruins America and the World?Let Trump have his second term. De Santis can be his VP.
shareI do not envy anyone who has to clean up Biden’s mess
shareYou Republicans are lying again ... for a hundred years the pattern has been Republicans rape and corrupt the country, Democrats put it back together. Clinton fixed the budget mess caused by Reagan, and then Bush blew it to hell - and caused a national financial meltdown. Then Obama came in and held the fort while the country limped along - with massive Republican obstruction the Democrats were not able to fix things as usual. Then Trump came in with tax cuts and blew it up again. These budge games Republicans are playing are aimed clearly and destroying the government so their rich billionaire donors can buy a new government.
The last budget crisis we had the US got its credit downgraded. If that happens again, and again we will be pushed to default on the debt because the interest payments will be too high. Republicans are invaders with solid plans to knock over our democratic government and destroy the Middle and Working Classes, remove health care, remove education, remove environmental regulations. Anyone who votes Republicans is delusional and malicious and toxic to the American system.
Wait hold on, are you trying to assert that an out of control border, losing energy independence, giving Afghanistan and 80 billion dollars of military weaponry to the Taliban, leaving Americans behind enemy lines, record levels of illegal immigration, harassing women in bathrooms, out of control crime, etc are good things?
I seriously want to know what your cult told you that made you connect the dots to reach that conclusion, Biden is in every sense of the word and objective failure
Obama did not save the economy, Obama hindered the economy from recovering (which was wrecked by libtard policies btw) and no one dared to call him out on it because the libtard media would label them as racist. Obama doubled the national debt and he even had the nerve to call President Bush “unpatriotic” for accumulating less debt. He took no responsibility for his failures as a president. Until Covid happened the economy was booming under President Trump and he gave everyone who worked a tax cut. Here’s what you don’t understand about taxes: The rich don’t pay taxes, they raise their prices which means regular people end up paying the burden, but the DemoKKKrats don’t care, they are evil and they want people to be in poverty.
The DemoKKKrats are the epitome of evil, they are racist, Anti-American terrorists. Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Schumer, etc. all belong in prison as do you if you stand by them. This reminds me of when we had so many opportunities to stop the Nazis and we didn’t, look how that turned out.
Not at all .... why did Trump do all that?
It's Trump and his cronies that are pushing Right-wing "Nazi" nationalism all over Eastern Europe, and here at home. Your posts are filled with toxic lies. I am sure not one is fooled to believing them except maybe your own troll-bot automatons.
Trump cut taxes for all working Americans because A) they deserve to keep more of the money that they made and B) when you cut taxes you increase revenue. More people buy things which can be taxed and businesses hire more people. Unlike the DemoKKKrats who want to put everyone on welfare so they can own them. You should be banned from movie chat for your lies along with all social media platforms. Trump was a Pro-America, limited government patriot, the DemoKKKrats are a bunch of fascists.
Biden and Obama are the modern day equivalents of Adolf Hitler, they are a bunch of evil, fascist Nazis and as are you for standing by them.
Trump dumped almost 3 trillion of taxes rich people would have been paying on the backs of average working, middle and even upper class Americans.
Who are you trying to kid with your incessant lies and nonsense?
Reagan was the first to cut taxes, and revenue was not increased, it went down and we got a 6 trillion debt, that held steady until Clinton began to pay it off. Then the Bush tax cuts created even more debt. Now we have the Trump tax cuts.
There is no conceivable way any of what you said bears any resemblance to reality.
More lies, he cut taxes for all Americans who work, the DemoKKKrats want to put people in poverty so they can put them on government assistance and therefore dictate their lives, it’s sick and disturbing. The economy was booming under Trump until Covid which btw wasn’t his fault, it was Fauci’s fault and I wouldn’t be surprised if it turned out the DemoKKKrats conspired with the Chinese to release Covid in the US to hurt him politically. It’s a Demokkkrat lie to say that Trump only gave tax cuts to the wealthy, I am the furthest thing from wealthy and I got a tax cut, he gave a tax cut to everyone and the economy was on fire because of his policies, now the economy is in the shitter thanks to Biden and the DemoKKKrats.
You are lying about Reagan as well, Jimmy Carter left him with a complete and utter mess and he saved the economy from the disaster of Carter. Republicans are for lower taxes which helps the economy and gives everyone a fair shot at the American Dream. DemoKKKrats want to raise taxes which will result in lay offs, poverty and lower revenues. The wealthy do not pay for tax increases, they raise their prices and they lay people off meaning that regular people end up paying the price, but the DemoKKKrats are fine with that people people who work hard for a living aren’t their voting base, wealthy libtard elites and thugs are their voting base. They are a bunch of evil scumbags. You seem to have this idea that peoples money is better off in the hands of the government which is ignorant on all levels, the government wastes money and they screw over the people they are supposed to represent, you’d know that if you hadn’t been brainwashed by your cult.
You never answered my question: What did your cult indoctrinate you with that deluded what little morality you may have ever had?
Your assessment of the relative effects of democrats and republicans on the economy is ass-backwards. In almost every case, republicans build it up, then democrats tear it down, then republicans come back and repair it again, and on and on. Democrats are the worst thing that has ever happened to the U.S. economy.
shareYeah, but my assessment is actually based on facts.
One of the primary facts against you and your reactionary insurgents always get wrong is that tax cuts for the rich stimulate the economy and leads to more jobs. That has never proven true.
Another facts that goes the other way is that you reactionary insurgents always get wrong is that raising the minimum wage decreases jobs. Everywhere it is been done it has led to more employment and a growing local economy.
Virtually all the Right-wing tropes are wrong. That's why you have to keep yelling, screaming, insulting instead of actually pulling out number or facts ... except when you point to the fake facts from the Right-wing think tanks