Today she claimed Trump wants "unchecked power" and compared him to Hitler, and smeared him as being "unhinged, unstable". With that kind of rhetoric (which I thought they were supposed to stop after assassination attempt #1), would you put it past Harris to choose to not certify the election if Trump wins?
shareThe left will do anything to stay in power and I have a very bad feeling that if Trump wins we are going to see many more 7-13’s and 9-15’s. It’s really scary how evil the Democrat party is.
shareCould end the Republic if Dems decide to suspend the Constitution. Not saying this is going to happen, but you have to wonder.
shareI’m really scared that if Kamala wins she is going to start up concentration camps for Trump voters. It’s really scary and disturbing.
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Could end the Republic if Dems decide to suspend the Constitution.
Why impossible? If Dems suspend the Constitution, they could end it as well. This is kind of a long shot and I don't think it will happen, but we live in unprecedented times. Kamala herself claimed that Trump is a "fascist". What would people do if they really convinced themselves that a regular politician was a "fascist"?
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Because they can't arbitrarily suspend the Constitution.
The Dems have been working for many years now trying to undermine the Constitution and would suspend it if they could - the fact they haven't is proof they can't.
It wouldn't be an "arbitrary" suspension of the Constitution. Also, I'm not talking about a suspension in a "peaceful" way. I'm talking about something that would involve a coup, commandeering the military, assassinating and/or threatening the lives/families of sitting members of Congress, etc.
Unlikely, yes, but constitutions don't last forever.
Sure they can. The First Amendment of the United States Constitution protects the right of people to peacefully assemble for religious purposes. However that went out the window during Covid stay at home orders.
shareVP Pence complied with the law and certified Biden as president in 2021. No VP has ever refused to certify the results of the official electoral vote count. I think that Harris will also certify the official winner.
shareNo VP has ever refused to certify the results of the official electoral vote count? Why would precedent matter, when the 2020 election went against all other applicable elections in US history?
shareHow did the 2020 election go against all other applicable elections in US history? Which elections were applicable in your opinion?
shareApplicable elections in this case are elections involving an incumbent. Biden is the only candidate in US history to somehow defeat an incumbent who maintained support.
shareJohn Adams, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buran, Grover Cleveland, Benjamin Harrison, William Taft, Herbert Hoover, Jimmy Carter and H.W. Bush were incumbents who lost their election.
"Maintained support" is a rather broad term. Trump lost the popular vote both times. How is that maintaining support?
They all lost support. Trump gained support.
shareIn 2016 Trump got 62,984,828 votes while Clinton got 65,853,514 votes. In 2020 Trump got 74,223,975 votes to Biden's 81,283,501 votes. Trump's support went from 48.9% to 47.7% of the popular vote.
Seeing as how support for Trump as a percentage of voters dropped, your claim is wrong. Biden is boring as f*ck. Trump is polarizing to say the least. The simplest way to explain how Trump lost the popular vote by a wider margin in 2020 than in 2016, is that millions more Americans came out to vote against Trump.
Trump proved he had little interest in safeguarding our civil rights while he was president, so it was no surprise that he was even less popular in 2020 then he was in 2016.
I think Trump will lose by an even greater margin in November. Trump could not beat a woman in the popular vote in 2016 and he could not beat a mumbling old fool like Biden in 2020. Trump's loss to a woman of color in 2024 will be his (in his mind) greatest humiliation; until he goes to prison.
That's not true. Trump had 46.1% of the popular vote in 2016 vs. 46.8% in 2020.
What numbers are you using? Where did you get them?
sharehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election
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I compared votes cast for Trump and for his opponent in my figures. The fact is that far more people voted in 2020 than in 2016 and far more of them voted for Biden.
shareMore votes for a successive election is expected. There was only one presidential election since 2000 where there was a decline in votes between successive elections.
Biden's votes clash with the last comparable election:
Obama had a 3.9% popular vote differential in 2012 for 332 electoral votes. Biden had 4.5% popular vote differential in 2020 for just 306 electoral votes. We expect Biden to have more electoral votes than Obama based on their popular vote differentials. It's far more likely that they boosted Biden's popular vote to facilitate the steal.
So you have to use an imaginary steal to support your claim, instead of actual facts?
shareHe didn't maintain support. His failed covid response did him in. Because he is an idiot.
Signed, million man.
Biden was such an idiot he failed his own metric to be president, talk about failure:
"BIDEN: 220,000 Americans dead. If you hear nothing else I say tonight, hear this. Anyone who’s responsible for not taking control — in fact, not saying, I take no responsibility, initially — anyone who is responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States of America."
https://www.debates.org/voter-education/debate-transcripts/october-22-2020-debate-transcript/
He didn't maintain support? Trump gained 11M votes.
shareIn 2016 Trump got 62,984,828 votes while Clinton got 65,853,514 votes. In 2020 Trump got 74,223,975 votes to Biden's 81,283,501 votes. Trump's support went from 48.9% to 47.7% of the popular vote.
Seeing as how support for Trump as a percentage of voters dropped, your claim is wrong.
I really got a kick out of the MAGA who claimed that Trump won in 2020 because he got more votes than in 2016. Never mind that he lost the popular vote and the electoral vote.
Your figures are wrong.
You're spouting garbage straw man. It's not that Trump got more votes from the previous election. It's that Biden did what no candidate in US history could do: I wonder what a fraud election looks like?
What are you figures? Why do you think Trump got more votes than Biden? Why should I believe what you say?
shareAccording the Trump shill logic, she would have the authority to do it. So why would it matter?
shareIf Biden's dementia is as bad as you think it is, then perhaps you should be more worried that the Supreme Court made it legal for the president to assassinate his political rivals.
All Biden has to do is make the murder an official act. Yes, it is extremely insane.
She definitely won't concede, just like Trump. She is copying every single idea and method that he comes up with.
shareAnyone else getting a really uneasy feeling that things are just going to utterly fall apart this time around? I was surprised that they didn't last time considering we were already in the midst of two overlapping hysteria situations (Covid and George Floyd). If the election is close again, it's going to really anger a lot of people beyond 2020, though luckily I think we are in a slightly less divided cycle than 2020 because there's a lot of fatigue over politics and some agreement among the Right and Left that the economy is bad and needs change. However the international situation with Russia and Iran is way more tense than before, which might mean we are more likely to have an external conflict than internal. So many variables that it's utterly unpredictable. My prayer is that it's a total blow-out and not even close. That's really the only way we avoid civil conflict.
shareIt certainly would be a lovely dose of karma for his election-denying ass, sadly it would never happen...
share“With that kind of rhetoric”
Like DEMENTIA JOE? CROOKED HILLARY?
Let’s be honest, he wrote the book on that kind of rhetoric. Seems a bit hypocritical that his minions are upset at him getting a taste of his own medicine.
So will Harris certify the election?
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