ok, you're not black, so stop hanging with the former first lady and stop saying you're black, you're not
i don't care if your mom is black, your dad is white, you look completely white and you talk with a white girl voice. you're white.
sharei don't care if your mom is black, your dad is white, you look completely white and you talk with a white girl voice. you're white.
shareIn other words, she is different from your stereotype.
shareno, she's different than everyone's definitions of being black. i mean have you ever seen her? and did you once think she's black? this is the same problem i have with people calling mariah carey black, she's not, she's white.
shareNo, she isn't. African-Americans come in different skin tones.
You don't sound like an American. Historically in America, a person with black ancestry is considered black and appearance is irrelevant. She is welcomed as a black woman within the black community. On the other hand, white people never accepted a person with black ancestry as white. If you think about it, whites don't consider Hispanic whites to be white because they speak Spanish.
nope sorry but black people are black skinned ergo their black or brown skin make them black. also the other thing which makes her not black is she has so little percentage black obviously that for her to say she is black is the same thing as more an american with 20% irish blood saying i'm irish. that's really stupid them accepting her as black. of course i mean hispanics are hispanic they aren't americans even if they don't speak spanish. not all of them though bc selena gomez is an american.
shareNonsense. There are plenty of light-skinned blacks who are called... light-skinned blacks.
First, you don't want the Dutchess to associate with the Former First Lady based on race. Then, you don't want black people to associate with the Dutchess based on race. What intolerance!
"hispanics are hispanic they aren't americans even if they don't speak spanish. not all of them though bc selena gomez is an american. "
You mean white? Are you saying that Hispanics can't be white because now you're contradicting yourself considering what you just said about black people.
no i'm not bc i said selena gomez is white bc of how she looks, she's not a full blown hispanic and so isn't meghan black but the difference is in how meghan looks that disqualifies her from being black.
shareYou don't have a say in the matter. Meghan made it publicly clear that she's African-American during her wedding ceremony which reflected her heritage.
Hispanic isn't a race.
You're living in a bubble. You need to travel more and interact with different people.
you're wrong. hispanic is a race. yes i do have a say in this matter.
her saying she's black is such a dumb thing to do regardless if it's correct because she's just as black as she is white, she has a white dad, so why doesn't she say she's white? i mean i just think this whole i'm black thing is so dumb, retarded, and immature and pointless and a sign of stupidity because why does it matter? why did she have to "come out" as black? why is being black more important than being white? that's retarded, why didn't she reflect her white heritage at her wedding?
You don't even seem to understand that hispanic isn't a race it is an ethnic group. Being hispanic simply means your origins are from Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico, South America or Central America... Race is completely different and you can have someone who is dark as mahogany or light as snow be hispanic it just depends on country of origin. You can find people in Mexico that are blonde with blue eyes, if they came to the US they would be considered hispanic, do you think they would be considered to be Scandinavians simply because of the way they looked?
shareNah, she’s black.
shareShe's not black?
Then how come a white comedian posted a racist tweet comparing her new baby to a chimp? She's "not black" according to you, yet she's getting dogged by racists like any other black person would.
that's her baby, not her.
shareby the way how do you get black from white and white?
shareI think it would be more insulting to remind her that she's married to a royal bastard that has no royal blood in him at all, and being a Duchess is not a synonym for "Princess," no matter how much the press mis-names her.
shareMany royals have numerous titles. Meghan is a dutchess, countess, baroness and princess. She holds the female version of whatever titles Harry holds.
Harry looks like his grandmother, the queen. He has her eyes. Almost everyone in that family has the same distinctive eyes except William and his older son who inherited Diana's eyes. But, William's daughter is the spitting image of the queen.
Bingo. That’s for Amerigal. Not for the post immediately above.
shareshe is obviously not black
shareexactly just like mariah carey
share"I'm a black woman who is very light skinned." As a child, she was self-conscious of her mixed race, and it is still enough of an issue, in the US and elsewhere, that Carey is routinely accused of "trying too hard" in one racial direction or another.
"White people have a difficult time with [mixed race].
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/oct/03/mariah-carey-interview
She claims to be a black woman now, but if you go back to her early days in music she wasn't claiming to be a black woman she was trying to present herself as white. It is only when she found that Hollywood gives you more celebrity points if you are a victimized minority than if you are white that she suddenly became a soul sister. It is quite frankly pathetic.
shareThat's nonsense! I've knew Mariah Carey when she began and she always said she was black. When Mariah started her career, her record label wanted to pass her off as blue-eyed soul (a white singer who sounds black) which would've been very profitable and Mariah told them that she is black.
"Hollywood gives you more celebrity points if you are a victimized minority than if you are white "
Bigoted much?
Go look back at early news articles on her. Even Billboard labeled her as a white soul singer, where do you think they get their info from? It comes from the artists' PR firms. If she wanted the world to know she was black she would have instructed her PR team to provide that detail to the media.
shareBillboard isn't her record label. There was probably a Billboard worker who like you has a problem correctly identifying a black woman.
shareIt wasn't just billboard, there were many publications saying the same thing. And the reality with Billboard is they aren't going to guess, the record labels will have been sending them bios on the artists so that they get the facts right when they print them. Do you think labels are just going to hope the reporters at Billboard know the names of everyone in a group or other facts? Don't be stupid, the reporter was just going off the information he was provided by the record label... You know the very same label that was run by the guy that would soon be her husband. Stop trying to defend the female Michael Jackson of the day, she did all she could be white back then and now she's back to embracing her color... Hell go find some interview where you can hear her voice, her speech mannerism and even accent were much less ghetto back then and now she's suddenly changed. Those are simply facts. like it or not.
shareNonsense. Prove it with your link(s).
shareNo time to waste trying to prove that grass is green to an idiot that won't accept reality. You think those facts I gave you are wrong feel free to prove it but I'm not going to go dig up old news articles from 30 years ago to prove your an idiot. You've already done that.
shareLOL! I knew it - zip proof from you. I suggest you reread my link in which she identifies herself proudly as a black woman.
Put up or shut up!
You're too stupid to even know your own link. You linked to an interview with her when she was 39 years old. 20 years after she marketed herself as a white soul singer. You want to prove your point find an interview with her at 19 where she was running around embracing her blackness... you can't because they don't exist, she was trying to be white when she started and hiding her blackness.
Hell I'll make easy for you, just go look at the old photos of her... why does she love to bleach her hair blond and straighten out most of the curls in the early days? Was that to embrace the black side? Or was it to try and pass herself off as white.
There are plenty of biracial children with blond hair. Most black females straighten their hair.
In my link, she is clearly identifying as a black child and noticing the stupidity of people like yourself who can't deal with a black person who looks like her.
You have no link. No credibility.
Anyway, what she looks like is irrelevant. She has a black parent therefore she is black. Period.
You're only obsessed because you hate the idea of a European prince marrying a black woman. What a fragile ego you must have.
You must be projecting, I could care less if a Eurotrash prince married a black woman or a labrador... I only only found myself on this thread because it came up and I was gullible enough to click on it out of curiosity... I had no idea it was filled with moronic snowflakes trying to rewrite history.
shareYou did a lot more than just click on it out of curiosity considering that you're been debating the issue for days.
You still have no link. No credibility.
There you go guys. Interview from 1990, when she had her first hit. The interviewer asks her that very question at 4:18. Judge for yourselves: -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_fesQ8ExpA
I loved 'Vision of Love' and at the time I thought she was of South American descent (so I wasn't too far out).
Nothing new. My previous link has the same information near the end of the article about her heritage.
She said that her mother was Irish and her father was black and Venezuelan. It's normal for African-Americans to be racially mixed.
I'm not arguing - just supplying info.
shareInfo appreciated.
I saw this video on the same page. Apparently, the family had a hard time because of the racism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNnyGcVk0Oo
When someone says to prove it, and you can't....you're the f cking scrub
shareexactly and she even married a hispanic guy in 1993 it's like what? you're not black. she is just like oj simpson who became "white" and only was "black" again to win his court case.
share"...she even married a hispanic guy in 1993"
Your ignorance is showing! Tommy Mottola is Italian - not Hispanic. Now it's obvious why you're wrong about Mariah and Meghan.
BTW, OJ has always been black. More ignorance on your part.
no, more ignorance on your part. if you watched the documentary on oj from 30 for 30 you'd know that oj went from associating and fakely acting white when he was a star at USC to being "black" when he was on trial to act the sympathetic black man part. who cares? hispanic or italian, i'm not a biographer on mairah carey so i don't need to know what race he was.
share"who cares? hispanic or italian, i'm not a biographer on mairah carey so i don't need to know what race he was. "
Obviously, you do since your entire post is about race and ethnicity.
OJ has two black parents therefore he's black. The rest of your post is nonsense. He can befriend anyone he wants which doesn't change his race. What ignorance on your part!
Isn't Obama black?
shareHe's a mix, with a white mom and a black dad, who isn't from Africa, by the way.
shareSo one of each, like her? Obama's dad isn't from Africa?
shareNo, he's a black American who masqueraded as Obama's grandpa, and Obama made false claims to an African family to make himself more exotic and less of a part of a population that was treated like crap while he was growing up.
sharehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Barack_Obama#Barack_Obama_Sr._(1936%E2%80%931982)
shareLooks like he was born in Kenya.
shareGuess you wrong here huh? You stupid f cking c nt.
shareWhat's most concerning is that you've given this any thought at all. She's a person, hanging out with another person. It's sad that you think your opinion on that matters, regardless of anyone's race.
shareThe only reason any of use knew she was part black was because the liberal press made a big deal out of it on her wedding day. You would have never guessed it from looking at her. She resembles a Mediterranean woman more so than someone with an African heritage.
shareI think she looks black. Not all blacks are the same shade. Following her on suits from the beginning I definitely noticed she looked black, or at least part black
shareand that's exactly my point. she's not black because she doesn't look black. i would never in my life ever think she's black in anyway, in any capacity if i never read she's black. just like mariah carey. meghan looks italian.
shareShe´s too dark to look "Italian". I always thought she looked like she had some black in her. Either way, I don´t see the problem if someone of mixed race wants to identify with one race more than the other.
shareit's wrong because she looks more white than black, so she can't identify and shouldn't identify with black people/ethnicity. no, there are a lot of Italian women who have tan skin exactly the same as meghan's tan skin.
shareIt shouldn´t matter how dark or light your skin is. There are some really light-skinned mixed race blacks with afros. Should they not be allowed to identify as black because their skin isn´t dark enough? That´s absurd.
sharebut it's not just that, its' the other features too. i mean look at every single one of meghan's features. not one of them is black. she doesn't have black skin at all, not even light brown skin, she doesn't have black eyes, she doesn't have black nose, she doesn't have black lips, she doesn't have black hair, she doesn't have black body in any way, not even in shape, so where is the black in how she looks? she has no black looks and she doesn't have a black voice in any way, and she doesn't act black, so she isn't black.
shareThat's stupid. Meghan's skin tone is very light beige with a yellow undertone. It's obvious when she's standing near Harry. She also has black people's eye shape which their son inherited. Most people aren't aware of more subtle racial differences like eye shape, ear shape, teeth, foot structure, leg and arm bone structure, facial bone structure, etc. I studied artist anatomy for many years so I pick up on it much easier.
"she doesn't act black"
That's offensive and racist. What exactly is acting black? I don't get the impression you know any black people personally and you're relying on TV and movies for everything you think you know. You need to get on a plane and travel so you can meet more people.
offensive and racist, yeah right, it's just observant and intuitive. black people like it or not act like urban, uneducated, unpolished, incorrect speaking dumb people. not true, i've seen, talked to, and interacted with plenty of black people and they all act dumb, not educated, not speaking correct English, not intellectual. they can't say certain words, they just can't pronounce certain words like ask and they act dumb. the outliers are the ones like barack obama who act and talk smart and say "unghetto black." but there are so few of them that they are few and far between. they are like 1% of the black population in america.
shareYour post proves that you are a bigot.
shareOf course she looks more like a mediterranean from Italy, because large parts of Italy were conquered by the Moors in the past and the Moors were in large part blacks from Africa.
sharei don't think anyone would ever mistake a black woman from an Italian woman.
shareGo run DNA tests on your women from Southern Italy and you'll find DNA from Africa. I never said you had the like of Grace Jones running around in Italy, but you will have hardly any pure European DNA in Southern Italy it will be for the most parta mix that will include African bits.
shareYou're saying that Southern Italians are racially mixed like Meghan who is racially mixed. We all know that. Meghan is biracial, but identifies herself as African-American. With her nutjob father and sister, I don't blame her.
shareWhy are people even entertaining this troll, such blatant shit trolling.
shareBlack people who look white. Very common.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9mtCLL8rI0
nope sorry you're wrong. i mean you can't get any different looking than a black person and a white person. i mean they call them black and white, they are opposites in the name even.
shareNevertheless, they are black.
Checkout this video in which a black Egyptian is told by the American government that he is white. all North Africans and Arabs were identified as white by the government no matter how they looked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XUPZokMb6A
Recently, Arabs protested and now they have their own category.