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Prosecution's opening statement, ahahahahahaha are they trying to lose?


- Admission that no laws were broken with the purchase/storage/movement of the AR15 used. No state lines crossed with it
- Admission that there is nothing wrong with going out to protect the businesses and property under threat from the rioters and looters and that Kyle and his group had successfully been doing that earlier in the day
- Admission that "large scale rioting" was taking place
- Admission that the "protestors" were hostile
- Admission that baldy child rapist Rosenbaum had been discharged from the hospital that day. Mental hospital perhaps? Linked to him being a vile child rapist?
- Admission that Kyle was being chased by baldy child rapist Rosenbaum when Kyle shot him
- Admission that someone else fired the first shot 30 feet from baldy child rapist Rosenbaum and the rabid mob that was chasing Kyle before Kyle fired on baldy child rapist Rosenbaum

This is not opinion or conjecture or speculation. This is from the prosecution's opening statement...Truly bizarre.

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Shit. The gun charge was their only real hope of fighting teh self defense defense.

Seriously, if they aren't pursuing that, I don't know what they hope to base their prosecution on.

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I don't believe you, got a link? I'm fairly certain that a prosecuting attorney is not going to call a shooting victim "baldy child rapist" or use the words "rabid mob" unless he is trying to sabotage his own career.

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Baldy child rapist and rabid mob are my own, perfectly accurate descriptions. All the admissions are correct though.

Here you go https://youtu.be/Q8uht8DyA3o

And I don't believe baldy child rapist Rosenbaum is allowed to be called a victim in court as it's a loaded term apparently.

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Unarmed man... HAH! A rapist don't need to be physically armed, their hands are the armaments to do the raping. >:P

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Yeah, wannabe Tony Stark did come out with some nonsense and outright lies. I really don't understand how that's legal in court. Though I suppose the whole game is lying and seeing if you can get away with it.

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Thanks for the link. You're really good at backpedaling. You will probably do doing more of it in the near future.

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What have I backpedaled on exactly?

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He will get off. But at least he will get a trial. Alec Baldwin doesn't even think he should have one.

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You realize that the OP dramatized a bit the wording, right? :D

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Yeah. I figured that was fairly obvious with my quotes but it seems some people want shit spoon fed to them. Probably one of those people that thinks that completely invalidates every point.

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Because a murder trial needs more added drama? Nah, I think he thought the people reading his posts were stupid enough to take it at face value.

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"Nah, I think he thought the people reading his posts were stupid enough to take it at face value."

And I was thinking NO ONE is stupid enough to take it at face value.

But you know what??? I was wrong ...

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Ultimately the question that will loom over the trial is why he went there with a rifle at all, and he could very well be convicted under that light.

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Did you read my post? The prosecution have already admitted that's not something they're pursuing as there's no legal issue.

We all know why he was there with a rifle. To protect people and property getting ransacked by rioters and arsonists.

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Agree with this. I understand the questions of why he had a gun and all that but the rioters also had guns and you can ask that same question; why did they have guns if they were peacefully protesting? In the end it comes down to why they were shot. Cold blood or defense. And most, if not all, the videos seem to show defense.

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Very true. I'd love for all these people calling Kyle a murderer to put a friend/loved one in his shoes and say hand on heart, they murdered in cold blood. Set aside whether they think Kyle had any right to be there that night with a firearm (which of course he did). Pretend that in that cell phone and drone footage they're watching is their brother/sister/boyfriend/girlfriend/mum/dad/whatever getting chased down like that and say "yup, self defense is not an excuse".

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Do you not understand how the court room works? It doesn’t matter that that’s not a charge they are pursuing (even though he’s been charged with possessing a gun under the legal age limit). The question in everyone’s minds, including the jury’s, is why he even went down there in the first place. They’re going to see him as a vigilante who wanted to shoot alleged shoplifters. Which means he can still get convicted despite his self-defense claim, if he purposefully put himself in harm’s way.

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What you're saying sounds awfully similar to: "If she didn't dress that way..." or "She shouldn't have been walking alone..."

Lol.

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Well in this case, people don’t go out looking to be raped, but going out there with a gun wishing to “shoot looters” is a different story.

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Not at all.

Modern US has become a racial caste system, and prosecution knows that none of those things matter anymore.

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What outcome are you expecting Kukuxu

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Rittenhouse is gonna spend the next decade in jail (minimum).

Mark my words.

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It was a very interesting opening statement. I got annoyed at one statement where he lied about Kyle shooting first but I believe he was forced to acknowledge/retract that statement later. Everything he said pretty much supported the defense's case.

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It was really pathetic. Claiming that Kyle was chasing baldy child rapist Rosenbaum and yet contradicting himself with the truth multiple times that Kyle had to turn around to shoot. Plus the whole lie about pistol guy blading his stance, keeping the gun behind him when anyone with eyes can see that was not the case.

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I admit I haven't paid an awful lot of attention to this story (I mean, I read it sure), but the video I saw shows Rittenhouse being attacked before shooting, but I also read that he was attacked because he had shot someone earlier. Is there video of the first shooting anywhere?

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Sadly there is no footage of the first shooting. Certainly none made public anyway. I've read the FBI claim to have had some additional footage but they "lost it". What that footage was of or even how much truth there is to that claim, I don't know. There is only an eye witness that says someone along the lines of after chasing Kyle down, baldy child rapist Rosenbaum tried to grab Kyle's gun and that's when he got shot. The first death.

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I'm with you as I haven't followed this crazy closely. Steven Crowder broke down the timeline really well on his show yesterday. I'll have to go back and see if they have anything on the 1st shooter, which I believe was Rosenbaum? but I believe that was Rosenbaum instigating.

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https://nationalfile.com/breaking-new-footage-shows-moment-kyle-rittenhouse-was-attacked-by-rosenbaum-ziminski/

Here is one article I have found detailing the first encounter. Not sure how biased it is but it DOES sound like there is footage.

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From that link, here is a C/P a bit edited to fit:

New footage shows the moment Kyle Rittenhouse was attacked by a group of rioters on August 24, 2020. The teenager can be seen, by himself, walking down a road while offering medical assistance. “Medical!” Rittenhouse, who was equipped with a first aid kit, could be hear shouting. He then came across a group of arsonists who confronted him, a group that included Joseph Rosenbaum. According to testimony from Rittenhouse’s friend Dominick Black, the teenager repeatedly left the area of the dealership in order to administer first aid and put out fires. At some point, Rittenhouse was separated from his associate and ended up alone. While making his way back to the dealership, Rittenhouse encountered a group that included Rosenbaum. The group had repeatedly set fires over the course of the night, including a dumpster that they attempted to push towards a gas pump. One member of the group, Joshua Ziminski, was armed with a handgun while Rosenbaum was carrying a heavy chain.“Anybody need medical?” Rittenhouse can be heard shouting as he approached the group. About ten seconds later, a member of the group can be heard yelling “let’s get him” while they surround Rittenhouse. “Friendly, friendly, friendly!” Rittenhouse can be heard yelling, indicating that he was not initiating conflict. The group then proceeded to pursue Rittenhouse while Ziminski can be heard yelling “you won’t do **it mother f***er!” It was around this time that Ziminski discharged his handgun into the air, the first shot fired during the timeline of events. He did this while Rosenbaum chased Rittenhouse across the parking lot, eventually cornering him. Rosenbaum then lunges at the retreating Rittenhouse while yelling “f*** you!” Rittenhouse then fired four times at point-blank range, killing Rosenbaum.  He then attempted to make his way to police lines in order to surrender, which eventually led to the second altercation involving Anthony Huber.

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not following close either just felt it wrong he was there to begin with, he did not live in that area, and what parents allow their children to go armed in another neighborhood armed to kill humans just sad but believe
if you can't do the time, don't do the crime

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I don't agree. It shouldn't matter that he shouldn't have been there. If that is the case then no one should have been there rioting and causing all the mayhem they were. Why is it Kyle should not have been there but Rosenbaum should have? Kyle was there because he worked there and was asked to help since it was obvious the police couldn't or wouldn't do it. I mean...I agree...a 17 year old kid should not need to be in a place like that but he was and him being there shouldn't be a death or a jail sentence. He was chased, provoked, attacked and he was threatened. He wasn't even the first one to shoot the gun. and the can't do the crime/time can be said for the 3+ other men who attacked Rittenhouse.

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not following close either just felt it wrong he was there to begin with, he did not live in that area


That is an entirely different matter and unrelated to what ended up ultimately happening.

Sure, if Rittenhouse stayed home there never would have been a shooting. One can also argue that if there was no rioting there wouldn't have been an incident.

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"YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER! YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER! THE WHOLE TRIAL IS OUT OF ORDER! Ladies and gentleman, I've just completed my opening statement."

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That was compelling...you didn't even need to pull out the Chewbacca Defense....

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