If girls werent borderline hookers...
There'd be no victims.
Truth is they liked the money, the swanky lifestyle and probably even the sex.
I'm sorry to say this but they were complicit.
Edgelord.
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That is what you and pedo-rapists all say. "They wanted it". "I didn't force them". "Hot girls had it coming". "They were in it for the money". "It's okay when you're rich".
Why be sorry when you can be right instead?
"""That is what you and pedo-rapists all say""""
But that's the real question though. Were they "raped" or did they consent to it?
This case kind of reminds me of that case from not too long ago in regards to that self-help group called NXIVM.
Supposedly it was a "sex cult" according to the media reports but apparently the women in that group participated in this on their own free will. But yet, they still got long prison sentences.
I don't know, it's just hard for me to justify long prison sentences for what could in fact be "victimless" crimes.
So you're questioning the integrity of the victims? Are rape victims unreliable witnesses because they were raped?
share"""you're questioning the integrity of the victims"""
WTF??
Ummm, I'm not sure how you came to this conclusion.
However, did they testify that they were "forced" to do it? That's kind of what this entire conversation has been about.
It is not a conclusion. I asked if you were questioning the integrity of the rape victims. Do you believe them or not? You could say yes or no.
shareWhat was their testimony? I didn't watch the trial, did you?
Did they specifically say they were violently forced into it?
You're suggesting that these were victimless crimes. Are you going to support your claim with evidence or not?
It is not up to me to prove you're right or wrong. You need to prove your own claims.
Wow, you need to learn how to read.
I didn't say that.
In fact, I said in a previous post in here that I haven't studied this case that closely. I never once said they were lying and were not forced to do it, I've said I don't know whether they were forced or not.
You made the bold claim without understanding what I wrote and said, "you doubt the claims of the victims" which I never did. Their testimony would be kind of important when discussing whether or not they were "forced" into doing this. Which is why I never said one way or the other.
However, let me ask you this, without looking it up on the net, do you know what Maxwell was charged with?
I'll give you a hint, she wasn't charged with rape.
You said , "I don't know, it's just hard for me to justify long prison sentences for what could in fact be "victimless" crimes". Why do you think it could be victimless crimes? So yes, you did say that.
She was charged with enticing and trafficking minors.
You act like you know things, but backpedal as soon as someone challenges you.
Perhaps I don't know that much about this case, which is why I used words like "I don't know" and it "could be".
I didn't watch the trial, did you? If you didn't watch the trial, then you don't know that much about this case either. Yet, you're making accusations towards others and accusing them of being "pedo rapists" and "disregarding what victims say" and you base this on what? No one in here has said they don't believe the testimony of the girls. That's not in question here. What's in question is whether or not they consented to it.
Going by my limited knowledge of this case... apparently, they accepted the money and never once said they were "forced" to do it. Their testimony basically boiled down to a complaint against Maxwell as being such a "smooth talker" that they just couldn't refuse Epstein's "abuse".
But that's the funny thing about sex cases like this, they almost always boil down to word against word. In fact, many people don't even think Epstein killed himself. They think he was murdered to cover for the big wigs that were involved in this. This case took on a life of it's own when we found out there was a long list of celebs and politicians and even a member of the royal family might have participated in this. Really, if these girls were over 18, we're probably not having this conversation right now.
One interesting thing about this case is that the girls never said one thing about Maxwell in their original report. They didn't add her until they hired a personal injury attorney.
That seems VERY fishy to me, it's almost as if they were looking for a pay day. And Maxwell was made to be the fall girl in this case for... well... you know, to cover the asses of the hierarchy involved here.
One other interesting note... 8 women were supposed to give a testimony but they only allowed 4 to testify? Hmmmm.... I'd like to know what the others had to say.
But then again, I didn't watch the trial, maybe justice was served here. idk..
Stop making her trend
shareSome of them will be at the forefront of these conversations.
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