One way I think you can separate the really great Americans is that they don't just do things for themselves. This country would never have come to exist if everyone had been maximally selfish as we are taught by Republicans to do from the moment we can watch Fox News.
shareYeager risked his life every day when he fought in WWII against Nazis, then again as a test pilot. This is the ultimate doing of things for others, on a level you will never approach. As an intelligent, rational adult he naturally was a Republican. And now you man-bun soy boys sneer at him as if you are morally superior. What pitiful little turds you are.
shareHit the nail on the head.
These people lost connection to reality a long time ago, like all the "brave" protestants in Britain, tearing down statues of Winston Churchill, perhaps the one man responsible for them not speaking German today.
Thankful for your post. It's unreal how many leftist nazi's there are on here..
sharewtf are you talking about?
there was no sneering
the OP called him a "truly great American"
Absolutely true. Yeager risked his life for his country, he backed up his beliefs with actions. And if he enjoyed the hell out of being a pilot, well, that was a win-win for everyone!
Which brings me to something I genuinely don't udnerstand about today's right-wingers. They claim they'd be happy to kill or die for their country, and venerate those who do. But when they're asked to stay home during a fucking plague or just wear a mask when they go out, many of them refuse or totally freak out! Staying home, cleaning hands, and using appropriate face coverings would benefit their country, get the economy back on track sooner rather than later, and help save the lives of fellow citizens, so why isn't fighting the pandemic seen as the patriotic thing to do?
Yes, because only Republicans are selfish, Democrats and CNN are so selfless they're willing to catch a bullet for their neighbor...
You got it!
You understand how this world ticks!
You've seen right through these evil Republicans!
You aren't the hero we deserve, but the hero we need!
Go fuck yourself!
Except that's not what republicans teach people. Enlightened self interest is NOT the same thing as being "maximally selfish."
And you know, it is absure micharacterizations like this -- wherein you feel the need to caricature your political opponents as mustache-twirling, Snidely Whiplash-type villains -- that is THE single most responsible thing for today's horrible, hyperpartisan atmosphere. You leave very little room for constructive debate over issues when you insist on regarding anyone who disagrees with you as a real-world counterpart to Mr. Potter from "It's a Wonderful Life." It also displays a truly Olympian level of arrogance, as if you think you are so outstandingly smart and wise that no intelligent person could possibly have principled disagreements with you about issues.
You might want to read up on some of the work by Prof. Jonathan Haidt, who's done some fairly detailed psychological research, and has actually tried to understand why conservatives and liberals hold some of the views they do. One of the things he found out was that on average, conservatives understand liberals, and can predict their answers to questions a lot better than liberals can conservatives. You might want to consider the possibility that you actually don't know everything.
> Enlightened self interest is NOT the same thing as being "maximally selfish."
That's what the Republicans have been devolved to since the 70's. I'm familiar with Haidt and I think he is wrong on all counts. First, though he claims to be neutral, everything he writes is slanted pro-Conservative and spins Liberal wrong. The second is that he is a product of Right-Wing think tanks, and the Right-wing have subsidized his career, books and celebrity.
> You might want to consider the possibility that you actually don't know everything.
Since you take that attitude as your only argument, a weak one, maybe take your own advice and refrain from commenting when nothing is all you have to offer.
Trust me, (today's) Republicans aren't conservatives and (today's) Democrats aren't liberals.
shareNo, today's democrats most certainly aren't liberals, they're leftists; and there's a big difference. And there really aren't many liberals left in the party; liberals like JFK, Hubert Humphrey, Scoop Jackson, Daniel Patrick Moniyhan, et al. No, today's democrat party would not be a very welcoming place for them. Reagan/Goldwater conservatives, on the other hand, may be a minority in the republican party today, but there are at least a few of them still there. They haven't been almost entirely chased out of the party by the radicals in it, the way it's happened on the other side of the aisle.
And no, I don't take "that attitude" as my only argument. I have lots in store, if need be. I merely object on your hyperbolic "maximally selfish" characterization of those who disagree with you. I stand by my argument -- if you utterly abdandon the principle of charity (google it, if you don't know what I mean) and insist on casting those who disagree with you in the worst of possible terms, ascriing to them the worst of possible motives; then whether you will admit it to yourself or not, you absolutely are displaying that towering arrogance to which I referred: the delusion that intelligent people couldn't possibly have honest, principled disagreements with you.
The Dem establishment (Pelosi, Schumer, Biden, Harris, DNC) are not Leftists. The only hard Left in the Dem party would be AOC and she's often promoted by the Rightwing like yourself as a means of painting the entire Dem Party as Left wing.
shareHarris has the farthest left voting record in the Senate. Biden might be more liberal than leftist, unfortunately he is completely without principle (not to mention fading faculties), and will in no way stand against the push coming from his left. Pelosi and Schumer may not be way over left like AOC, but they do pander to the left regularly, hoping to use the leftist voter base for their own ends, and politicians like them are pushing the party steadily to the left year by year. A few years ago, an out and out socialist like Bernie Sanders (who remember, is an independent who caucuses with the democrats, not a democrat himself) could never have gotten close to being nominated as their presidential candidate. The last two elections, he's come very close to securing it (and probably didn't in 2016 only thanks to the democrat party rigging the game in Clinton's favor).
shareBullshit. When she was running as a potus candidate, right wingers were calling her a mean spirited prosecutor locking up black men for crimes that right wingers blame blacks for committing a majority of the time. Now that she's VP she's all of a sudden a Leftist?
You never listed one example of a Leftist policy Harris or Biden either.
You don't think leftists lock people up for crimes? I'm not understanding what you're getting at here.
shareThis is like having to explain to someone that the sun rises in the east.
According to GovTrack, the nonpartisan government transparency watchdog Harris' voting record is to the left of even her democratic-socialist colleague, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). Also GovTrack found she “joined bipartisan bills the least often compared to Senate Democrats.” Harris has proposed a mind-numbing $46 trillion in new spending over the next decade, and supports the economically ruinous Green New Deal, Medicare-for-all and free taxpayer funded health care for illegal aliens. She also advocates unlimited abortion, and repeal of the and repeal of the Hyde amendment so taxpayers will foot the bill for it, and she has suggested that a faithful Catholic who belongs to the Knights of Columbus is unfit to serve as a federal judge. She opposes deportation of those who illegally enter the United States and once compared Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to the Ku Klux Klan.
She is the farthest left politician in the senate, and it's simply a fact. If you think otherwise, you are willfully blind.
That's what the Republicans have been devolved to since the 70's. I'm familiar with Haidt and I think he is wrong on all counts. First, though he claims to be neutral, everything he writes is slanted pro-Conservative and spins Liberal wrong. The second is that he is a product of Right-Wing think tanks, and the Right-wing have subsidized his career, books and celebrity.
You mistake my opinion for an argument. I am not trying to convince anyone or anything, and I know people who agree with Haidt cannot be reasoned with anyway.
You and the country would be better served to open your understanding of argument fallacies to what is said in larger venues by more important people than I. Reason and argumentation hardly matters when you start with made up facts.
You mistake my opinion for an argument. I am not trying to convince anyone or anything, and I know people who agree with Haidt cannot be reasoned with anyway.
So many people seem to live to insult their betters online. Hope you enjoy that life.
share> Except that's not what republicans teach people. Enlightened self interest is NOT the same thing as being "maximally selfish."
Why else would the Republicans put Dr. Jane Orient who is opposed to Mandatory Vaccinations to Testify Before Senate Committee? This is not a question about the medical system, this was about the CoronaVirus, and Orient's position is that the government has no right to involve itself in medicine.
What do you suppose that is all about Derwood?
Dr. Jane M. Orient is the executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a group that opposes government involvement in medicine and views federal vaccine mandates as a violation of human rights. “A public health threat is the rationale for the policy on mandatory vaccines.2 days ago
This is absolutely exactly what I said it was, and the fact that she was called before the Senate without relevancy is all about how she leads a group of doctors who want medicine to be totally private, with no oversight or regulation, and a pricing structure that would remove responsible and dependable health care from a massive majority of Americans.
This is settled in our society, yet her group questions the very nature and reality of government and society? If that is what you believe, you should be arguing for that openly and not questioning my motives by wrongly applying some list of argument fallacies. I'll be honest, I disagree and resent anyone who wants to take us back to the Middle Ages, reductio ad absurder or not.
Except that the Pandemic has show us not enlightened self-interest, but idiotic, pandering, manipulation disguised as self-interest.
Really, the Republicans need to get their act together and get back to enlightened self-interest and not just telling the uneducated what they want to hear, and the sensible Republicans need to take their party back from the sort of eeeeevil bastards who host superspreader events during a pandemic.
He was a living legend from a time when accomplishments and achievements still meant something. Nowadays, people are appointed the first black this or the first gay that seemingly every other week without legitimately earning it. Today's men aren't even a fraction of the type of guy Chuck was. Hell, you have to pry them from their weed and their football to get them to take out the garbage.
shareA brave man died who risked his life numerous times and you insult him and his believes by saying that his political party is very selfish. Why don't you say something positive about the guy and what he has done in life? I bet when Ted Kennedy died you talked about how great a human being he was and completely disregarded that he was an unrepentant murderer. But I realize he has accomplished more than you ever will and basically your whole day is posing on Moviechat and I realize you most likely do not have a job or life.
shareJust FYI: He lived in Penn Valley, Ca. for his later years, and was widely disliked by his neighbors.
He performed great service for his country and humanity in general in his day, but as an old man, he seems to have become a raging asshole.