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I had high hopes...... now crushed


I had high hopes, i liked Trumps stance on crime and migrants.......... but Trump made 90% of the world hate America and americans.
The way he acts, wanting to take over Greenland, Panama, Gaza... and Canada as well, making Canada the 51st state ! Bullying the world with tariffs (who will hurts americans even more)

At first we thought it was a joke, it is not.
And now basically giving up on Ukraine, helping Russia, who are a historic enemy of the United States. And at the same time pissing on the backs of allies.
The US is not to be trusted or counted on anymore.

"America first"... sure...... first on the list, of countries everyone else hate ....
that's a real shame.
I would not want to be an American traveling the world the next four years.

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Guess who controls both parties? Yep - the same sect of people ^^

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You should find a source for real news. Nothing you've written is true.

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so he does not want to take over control of all those places?

you are the fake news buddy!

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It's called negotiating. Just like he threatened Mexico and Canada with tariffs that we all knew would never come to be, and brought them into line. Both nations are now paying to secure their respective borders. You know as well as I do that Trump is not going to use the military for anything other than defense, just as he did in his first term. Recall that he's the first U.S. president since Eisenhower who did not launch a new war somewhere in the world.

On the topic of war, look at what he's doing to resolve the Russia-Ukraine war. And to foster peace in Israel.

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negotiating my ass....... in case you don't know, most people do not respond with kindness to threats. This will never be forgotten.

DT is hurting US/Canada-European relations more than russia and china ever have.

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He will die eventually and go on the dumpster of history. But the damage he has done will never be undone.

He betrayed American allies.

"USA will always betray you" - will now be always on everyones mind.

Not to mention what a giant coward he is. He is so much afraid of putin.

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You weren't listening. But welcome to the real world.

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well, i was listing to the "hard on crime" and "out with illegals" talk.
That is something we need badly here in Europe.... not a day without another muzzie attack :-(

But the first thing he did was talking about taking over Greenland, attacking allies, imposing tariffs.... etc.

Not exactly the stuff he ran his campaign on.
Not what i heard at least....... of course i am in Europe. Did not want to hear all his campaign speeches.

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The fact is that Trump has totally dismantled American Democracy in under a month.

I am not exaggerating. we now have a dictatorship that even the Republicans in congress cannot stop.

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True... he seems to be in a hurry.....what's the rush?

4 years of this shit, sigh... perhaps he won't make it.

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What's the rush? I'll tell you what the rush is. The rush is to overwhelm both the political opposition, and the American legacy media (but there I go repeating myself). The rush is the need to come on hard and fast, and hit the Democrats with so many different things that they are knocked back on their heels, and have no idea where to focus their energy. Trump's opponents love to take anything he's done, put it in the headlines, then analyze it, spin it, distort it, attack it, try to turn public opinion against Trump on it -- that's easy to do when it's just one thing. How do they do that to a dozen? Two dozen? What should the NYT run on page one, Trump's nominee for SecDef, his promise to eliminate the Dept. of Education, or him laying of so many government workers? What do the Democrats in congress stand up and demagogue, his securing the border, Elon Musk and DOGE, or the pardon of the J6 defendants? What do Joe Scarborough and Rachel Maddow and all the other talking heads on cable complain about, Trump's proposed tariffs, Tom Homan and the ICE raids to round up and deport illegal aliens, or suspending all foreign aid until it can be reviewed on a case-by-case basis?

The rush is to discombobulate the opposition so they don't know what to do next. It's a political shock and awe campaign. And it's working.

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In what way has democracy been dismantled? Are the next elections cancelled? Has the legislative branch been eliminated, or reduced to a mere rubber stamp that automatically approves whatever edicts Trump hands down? Do you no longer have representatives in your city or town council, and your state legislature? Has the governor in your state been renamed proconsul, and do his duties now consist of carrying out Trump's will? Yes, please do enlighten me as to what, specifically, has been done to dismantle democracy in the United States (not that our government ever was a democracy; it's a constitutional republic).

Because if you mean the work of DOGE, the attacks on the various agencies, the laying off of government workers, etc., I've got news for you: that's not democracy he's attacking, that's bureaucracy. And Trump was right to take an axe to it. It's gotten out of control, the amount of fraud waste and abuse that this out of control bureaucracy has been perpetrating, and which is coming to light, is simply mind-numbing. Moreover, the bureaucrats who run this swamp have come to regard themselves as beholden to no one.

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Why would you have high hopes in the first place? Everyone knows that's his style of doing things. Did you somehow miss he would likely rely on such methods when he resumed his Presidency?
Personally, I think he's exaggerating, otherwise he probably wouldn't have paused the tariffs for a month to discuss the situation.

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I think you're full of shit.

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You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.

--Winston Churchill

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