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Trump had the audacity to make accusations that DEI was possibly to blame for this aircraft and helicopter crash. Trump knows squat about aviation and has absolutely zero business making such statements. He truly shows his ignorance. He has no clue how to conduct a press conference about such a tragedy. I'm am livid at this man and feel terribly for the families and loved ones of those who perished who had to listen to this babbling idiot.

Trump had to take several shots at the previous administrations during this conference and he should not have gone there. Peter Alexander had Trump by the balls with information that Trump did not like and Trump squirmed about that. Good for Peter Alexander!!!!! Something to do with DEI policies that have been in effect since 2013. Ha Ha Ha Ha.

I knew the experts were going to take Trump's words and chew them up and spit them out every which way. Sure enough, the experts have basically called Trump a buffoon.

Trump is a disgrace.

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Everybody who voted for tramp, is a disgrace!

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Shut up silly woman

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go make me some pancakes.

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So JoWilli/BKB/KingBob what you're saying is that she belongs in the kitchen? Is that what you're saying here?

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no, I just heard she is really good at making homemade pancakes.

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[–] Switchstar (378) 2 hours ago
So JoWilli/BKB/KingBob what you're saying is that she belongs in the kitchen? Is that what you're saying here?


If she throws shade on Trump supporters by calling them disgraceful people, she is fair game. The kitchen it is.

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@Spacetimer......Read my post again. I did NOT call Trump supporters disgraceful. I called TRUMP disgraceful. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.

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"@Spacetimer......Read my post again. I did NOT call Trump supporters disgraceful. I called TRUMP disgraceful. Reading comprehension is not your strong suit."


Good greif. I was addressing Tina, ya boob. I read just fine. Back to the kitchen with you also.

[–] TinaKimo (929) a day ago
Everybody who voted for tramp, is a disgrace!

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@Spacetimer......My mistake. I apologize.

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Way to prove her right. However, I don't like any politician. They all lie. Trump is just too stupid to keep his whack thoughts to himself.

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They probably know how to use a comma.

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Trump knows two facts. There is a shortage of air traffic controllers and the industry has been pushing for diversity.

The Biden administration was an unmitigated disaster. Only fools and propagandists take up for it. So shut up.

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Which "DEI hires" were responsible for the crash? Are you willing to share your special secret knowledge with us?

Trump was happy with the FAA DEI while he was president from 2017 to 2021. Why is he having a problem with it now?
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/01/faa-employees-disabilities-targeted-trumps-anti-dei-push/402444/
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/01/15/faa-dei-initiatives/

Trump showed no desire to change DEI polices at the FAA during his first presidency. https://web.archive.org/web/20130226035813/https://www.faa.gov/jobs/diversity_inclusion/

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Which "DEI hires" were responsible for the crash?

Write a 15000 word essay and cite sources explaining why DEI hires were not responsible.

Trump was happy with the FAA DEI while he was president from 2017 to 2021. Why is he having a problem with it now?

Cite sources that prove Trump was happy with the FAA DEI while he was president from 2017 to 2021

Trump showed no desire to change DEI polices at the FAA during his first presidency.

Cite sources that prove Trump showed no desire to change DEI polices at the FAA during his first presidency.

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I think "Previous Biden DEI hires" is now the Trumpet's catch all soundbite response to any and all issues in the Trump administration

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Probably. He is hoping that his MAGA will be stupid enough to not know he had the same DEI policies in effect from 2017 to 2021 when the catch-phrase was CRT. I know they are stupid enough to believe it here. :)

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Which "DEI hires" were responsible for the crash? Are you willing to share your special secret knowledge with us?

Nobody has claimed that the controller on duty at the time of the crash was a DEI hire. Saying that DEI is responsible, is not the same thing as saying A DEI hiree is responsible. And I think Trump is quire correct that DEI is responsible, even if only indirectly. We don't know yet that the controller on duty in the tower at Reagan airport was one of the Biden aministration's DEI hires, but what we do know is that there should have been another controller in the tower with him, and there was not, so he was doing the work of two people. We also know that under the Obama and Biden administrations, there was this push to get more "diversity" in hiring for these jobs, and the FAA has been underhiring for several years now, because they could not find enough of their preferred "diverse" personnel, and have been turning away eminently qualified white, male applicants who could have taken those positions.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/jan/30/faa-diversity-hiring-practices-scrutiny-long-air-d/

Finally, we know that thanks to the hiring of "diverse," but less qualified controllers, and the overall shortage of controllers, we have seen a sharp increase in the number of near misses between aircraft. This is how DEI contributed to this incident.

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Why do you suppose the FAA was allowed to be understaffed for years while Trump was in office?

Trump had no idea who was flying or in the tower when he claimed DEI was responsible.

Trump was just fine with the FAA's DEI policies while he was president from 2017 to 2021. He made no move to change the DEI policies that were in effect since 2013.

What evidence do you have that the diverse FAA employees were less qualified than anyone else? Were you part of the hiring process?

Your link includes this;

Ongoing policy criticism envelops crash aftermath despite no evidence DEI hiring played any role in accident

Mr. Buttigieg responded that no commercial passenger plane crashed during his watch. Wednesday’s crash broke a 15-year safety streak for the U.S. airline industry.

“We put safety first, drove down close calls, grew Air Traffic Control, and had zero commercial airline crash fatalities out of millions of flights on our watch,” Mr. Buttigieg said. “Time for the President to show actual leadership and explain what he will do to prevent this from happening again.”

Do you believe it?

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Sure I believe it. Buttigieg got lucky. The entirely predictable disaster didn't occur while he was still in office. But it did occur within mere days of his leaving it, and well before the new administration's policies had any time to take effect.

As to why Trump didn't do anything about it during his first administration... It's not that he was "fine with the FAA's DEI policies while he was president from 2017 to 2021" it's that rescinding that was not a high enough priority the first time -- and of course, a lot of Trump's orders during his first term didn't get carried out fully thanks to "the resistance."

And what evidence do I have that that the diverse FAA employees were less qualified than anyone else? That is a top contender for the stupidest fucking question I have ever heard. When you pass over the most qualified applicants in order to check diversity boxes it is abundantly self evident you are not going to have the most qualified people. When anything other than merit -- whether it be nepotism, cronyism, political loyalty, or DEI -- becomes your top criterion for selection, you are not going to have the most capable people. Period. This is basic common sense.

And this, by the way, is why people are turning against "progressive" ideology. They are sick of the incompetence and stupidity, and the way that ideology requires us to pretend not to know things that we know full well.

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[–] Darren (1420) an hour ago
When you pass over the most qualified applicants in order to check diversity boxes it is abundantly self evident you are not going to have the most qualified people. When anything other than merit -- whether it be nepotism, cronyism, political loyalty, or DEI -- becomes your top criterion for selection, you are not going to have the most capable people. Period. This is basic common sense.

DEI does not require that the most qualified people be passed over to allow less qualified to be hired or promoted. DEI means that anyone most qualified (merit) can be promoted or hired.

Trump clearly wants the days of the "most qualified white male" be hired or promoted. DEI prevents that.

Resistance? Trump says he can do anything he wants per the Constitution. Why would any of your imaginary resistance be an issue?

Trump is all about "nepotism, cronyism, political loyalty". He hired his own family as part of the administration despite their obvious unqualified nature. Trump insists upon loyalty to himself over loyalty to the country or Constitution. When Trump says "America first", he actually means "Trump first".

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/betrayed-trump-second-administration-loyalists-loyalty-rcna136257
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2024-11-14/as-he-fills-his-new-administration-trump-values-loyalty-above-all-else

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DEI does not require that the most qualified people be passed over to allow less qualified to be hired or promoted. DEI means that anyone most qualified (merit) can be promoted or hired.

Yeah, this is a lie. You are lying. You know you are lying. Stop it.

As the article I referenced notes: "The FAA’s focus on diversity began under the Obama administration. In 2013, the FAA started using a “biographical assessment” to increase the hiring of preferred minority racial groups at air traffic control centers." (Emphasis added.)

It goes on to note also "More than 3,000 rejected applicants filed a lawsuit claiming discrimination."

This is the FAA passing over more qualified applicants, in order to hire applicants who are not as qualified, but check the right diversity boxes. That's what DEI is, it is NOT merit-based, and you know it.

Stop. Lying.

Trump clearly wants the days of the "most qualified white male" be hired or promoted. DEI prevents that.

Yeah, this also is a lie. Trump -- and most other people -- don't want "the most qualified white male." They just want the most qualified. Right now, most of that pool happens to be white and male, and that sticks in the craw of you stupid SJW's, but the rest of us don't care. When I am on a plane, I don't care if the air traffic controller is white, black, or green with orange polka dots. I couldn't care less. I just care that he (or she) is competent, and will not guide the plane I'm flying on right into a collision with another aircraft.

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The lawsuit, according to the link, claims racial discrimination, not that less qualified people were hired. It does not claim that the lawsuit had any merit at all.

See how easy it is to win an argument when you make up your own definition to words or phrases? Simply declaring I'm a liar does not actually carry any weight at all.

Why does diversity, equality and inclusion actually mean it is not merit based. Surely you understand that DEI was considered necessary back when inclusion only applied to white males and and hardly else? DEI means that anyone with the qualifications and merit gets to be included in the hiring pool.

Look at who Trump surrounds himself with. The rare non-white or female face does not excuse his racism or sexism. That is why Trump jumped right to DEI as the blame for the accident instead of waiting to find out anything else.

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Why does diversity, equality and inclusion actually mean it is not merit based.

I've already explained it, this is you being deliberately obtuse. You know why exactly why, and you're just being oily and disingenuous.

Surely you understand that DEI was considered necessary back when inclusion only applied to white males and and hardly else?

This is not just a lie, it's despicable horseshit. That kind of discrimination has been illegal for the past sixty-years, and you damn well know it. Stop pretending you've never heard of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, or that you think the FAA has been blithely and willfully violating it without consequence for the last three generations.

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Your explanation was crap. Sucks to be you.

Just because discrimination is illegal, does not mean it does not still exist. You're naive in the extreme. Surely you understand that some people will still violate laws after they are passed. This sometimes makes it necessary to better enforce them with new regulations.

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Nope. Henry Rogers is wrong. The solution to racism is not more racism, just going in the other direction. That just perpetuates division and resentment. The indulgence in this stupid philosophy by people like you is why race relations are worse now than they were twenty years ago.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/1687/race-relations.aspx

Race relations were getting better. Racism was declining. Until you damned wokesters had to go put it on life support.

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Rogers? Who?

Your poll just indicates how some people think about race relations. It is not assigning blame. You are doing that.

My philosophy is that racism is bad. People like Trump who indulge in it by mis-using code words like CRT and DEI are obviously racist. Why am I woke for just criticizing Trump?

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Henry Rogers, AKA Ibram X. Kendi.

Wanting the most competent people in public safety jobs, regardless of color, is not assigning blame.

Yes. Racism is bad. That includes DEI, which is racist, because it favors some people over others, purely on the basis of immutable characteristics. You are woke for supporting it.

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[–] Darren (1425) 3 hours ago
Race relations were getting better. Racism was declining. Until you damned wokesters had to go put it on life support.

Sounds like you're assigning blame here.

Diversity, equality and inclusion are not, by themselves, racist. They could be used in a racist manner, but you cannot point to any one case and prove that DEI was done in a racist manner.

Do you even understand what those terms mean?

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Yeah, when you are passing over more qualified applicants in order to select people who check the right diversity boxes, that means DEI was "done in a racist manner." No shit. This is because DEI -- which is just affirmative action under a new label -- is itself racist. It doesn't cure the problem, it keeps it alive.

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Who said more qualified applicants were passed over in an effort to be more diverse?

Did it ever occur to you that only allowing a small portion of the population to apply for a job, limits the number of qualified applicants that are interviewed or trained? Opening up the job to all qualified applicants is usually better.

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Who said more qualified applicants were passed over in an effort to be more diverse?

You keep pushing this nonsense, and that's what it is: nonsense. If you are prioritizing anything other than merit, than the most meritorious people are not going to get as many slots, because that's not what you're selecting for.

Everyone understands this.

You understand this. And you are pretending not to.

And I'm done wasting time with a stupid, intellectually dishonest, deliberately obtuse ideologue. You're on the ignore list.

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DEI ensures that the body pool from which the merit comes from, is as broad as possible.

The ignore list is for cowards like you.

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LOL!

🤣

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-attacks-dei-policies-dc-plane-crash-says-faa-employees-must-be-held-highest-standards

"The FAA is actively recruiting workers who suffer severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, and other mental and physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled out on the agency's website," he said.

While that language was present on the FAA's website during the Biden administration, it was also present during Trump's first administration.

Why is DEI okay for Trump, but not okay for anyone else?
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/01/faa-employees-disabilities-targeted-trumps-anti-dei-push/402444/
https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/01/15/faa-dei-initiatives/

Trump showed no desire to change DEI polices at the FAA during his first presidency. https://web.archive.org/web/20130226035813/https://www.faa.gov/jobs/diversity_inclusion/

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Are you implying that Trump should have known everything about everyone?

Are you implying that Trump should have known everyone that was a DEI hire?

Are you implying that Trump should have known every position that was a DEI hire?

Once again; Ranb the propagandist shill is clowning and TDSing as usual.

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@tvfan.......Trump should have kept his trap shut. All the aviation experts have said that. Trump needs to zip it and learn how to conduct a press conference when there is a national tragedy. Not get on his pulpit and speak negatively about previous administrations and how much better his administration is.

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He's a leader and an Alpha ... only cucked betas and neutered soyboys sit back quietly.

And he was right, the blame falls on the previous administration and their DEI/WOKE bullshit. They caused that tragedy.

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You really are this dumb huh?

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@tvfan......Do you not realize that the DEI policies Trump was going on and on about were IN EFFECT during his first administration. Do you understand that? Peter Alexander brought that to light during the press conference. That info is on the FAA website. Trump fumbled around by lying about changing the policies. Trump DID NOT change those DEI policies during his first term. They have been in effect since 2013.

What do you have to say about that?

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He didn't change the policies because he wasn't aware of them at the time.

Once again, only libtards expect Trump to know everything.

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@tvfan.......If you watched Trump's press conference and his altercation with Peter Alexander, you would have heard Trump say to Alexander, "I did change the policies". Trump lied right to Peter Alexander's face and to the American people on national TV. Trump did NOT change those policies. You are saying Trump did not know about the policies when he was president in his first term? Really??? Not according to Trump who claims he "changed the policies".

Trump was caught in a lie on national TV. Do you understand what transpired there? Alexander had Trump by the balls. Trump will probably do everything in his power to have Peter Alexander fired.
Trump doesn't like to be called out and have his lying ass exposed.

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Trump changed the policies "recently."

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tvfan SAID: "Trump changed the policies "recently"".
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Alexander said during Trump's press conference regarding the mid air crash that the DEI policies from 2013 are on the FAA website. If Trump did change the policies in his second term in office, then the FAA website needs to be updated. I haven't looked a the website today but I would bet any amount of money those policies from 2013 still stand. Alexander is a top notch reporter. He knows how to do research when he calls out the president.

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Alexander is not a journalist; he’s part of the left wing Democrat propaganda with TDS.

Obama had DEI policies which Trump changed and then Biden also changed it.

Trump changed it recently.

Oh, and BTW, even if something is left unchanged on a website, it doesn’t mean that the “actual changed policies” didn’t go into effect. Nevertheless …

https://search.usa.gov/search?affiliate=dot-faa&sort_by=&query=diversity+inclusion

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I'm saying that Trump could learn something prior to acting out like a child. The American president should be one of the most well informed people in the world. Why does Trump act like he does not know a damn thing?

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Why do you act like Trump should know everything?

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[–] Ranb (10781) 33 minutes ago
I'm saying that Trump could learn something prior to acting out like a child. The American president should be one of the most well informed people in the world. Why does Trump act like he does not know a damn thing?

[–] tvfan (14038) 8 minutes ago
Why do you act like Trump should know everything?

I never said Trump should know everything. Trump needs to know SOME things. He is president after all; the "most powerful man in the world"?

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Once again:

Trump is only "one" person; he has no more power than he is allowed by others ... those same others that tried to impeach him and remove him for making a simple phone call.

Trump is not omniscient or omnipotent.

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The president is not just a person. The president is the executive branch of the government.
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/full-text

Article II Section 1
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.

"No more power than what is allowed by others"? WTF does that even mean?

Once again you're trying to tell me that Trump is some kind of incompetent doormat. You should stop.

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I didn't say "a" person, I said "one" person, learn how to read.

Did the swamp try to remove him for making a phone call? Yes or No? ...

For once, try answering honestly.

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I don't care what you said. I have my opinion and will voice it here.

Surely you understand that the president is capable of having some of the best minds at his fingertips? Why can't Trump do this instead of hiring sycophants that are loyal to him, instead of the country and Constitution?

Show me that it was only a phone call that Trump was impeached for? Are you certain it was not about criminal bribery and wire fraud charges as part of abuse of power?

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Well, you didn't disappoint. Never a direct or honest answer from you.

Are you certain it was not about criminal bribery and wire fraud charges as part of abuse of power?

The swamp had Trump's phone tapped (illegally). And his phone call was inquiring about the criminal bribery of Biden.

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Why is it illegal to tap Trump's phone? Is Trump above the law?

So was the impeachment about criminal bribery and wire fraud charges or not? Do you even have a clue about Trump's 1st impeachment? Probably not.

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So you’re ok with breaking the law and framing Trump for the crimes of others. Got it

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I am not okay with breaking the law or framing anyone.

Why was it illegal to tap Trump's phone? Is Trump above the law? So was the impeachment about criminal bribery and wire fraud charges or not? Do you even have a clue about Trump's 1st impeachment?

Don't be chickensh*t, can you give me a direct answer?

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Trump made a call to Ukraine inquiring about the Biden criminal bribery (they heard that phone call from their illegal wiretap).

The swamprats were protecting Biden and tried to impeach Trump for it.

Thanks for confirming that you're ok with breaking the law and framing others.

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Where is your proof that the tap was illegal? If it was illegal, surely Trump would have had those tapping his call prosecuted. Trump likes to brag he can do anything he wants after all.

I never said I was okay with breaking the law. You're the one saying it.

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You're the one saying it.

And you confirmed it.

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tvfan SAID: "Trump is not omniscient or omnipotent."
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Very true! Trouble is Trump doesn't think so.

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Only libtards and TDSers expect Trump to be all-knowing and all-powerful.

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I do not think Trump has to know everything. But Trump likes to claim he has no responsibility, at all. Do an internet search for those words and lots of links/videos show up with Trump making a fool of himself in this manner. Bad look for a president.

Trump claims that DEI was responsible for the crash, but he has no evidence to support this. https://apnews.com/article/plane-crash-washington-dc-trump-dei-claims-3ac5486ec594d81e919e8ebbd9733869

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Didn't read, eat my testes you loser.

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That's because you are too stupid to comprehend it which is not surprising because you actually believe that democrats control the weather and can create hurricanes.

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There's no need to for me to read yet another salty loser's retarded whining post is there? Have you considered crying on a message board like a faggot? Oh silly me ofc you have lol

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Because you know "the experts"™... 🙄

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Keep pointing and laughing in their faces. That's the one thing they can's tolerate is to be laughed at. They live for and judge life by the attention and applause. Ridicule is kryptonite to them.

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I point and laugh at libtards daily.

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DEI is the blame for the Aircraft collision because the staff working the Tower weren't normal staff they said

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/live-updates-plane-crashes-potomac-river-collision-helicopter-reagan-n-rcna189942

"A preliminary FAA report on the collision found that air traffic control tower staffing at Reagan Washington National Airport (DCA) was "not normal" for the amount of air traffic and for the time of day, a source with knowledge of the situation told NBC News.

The tower typically has a controller that focuses specifically on helicopter traffic. But at the time of the crash last night, the source said, one controller at DCA was overseeing both airplane and helicopter activity."

Regarding the Title of this Thread Luvthepros: OPEN MOUTH, INSERT FOOT!!

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Dang Trump was correct yet again and the libtards were wrong yet again. I'm sensing a pattern emerging here.

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@MiyagidoMAGA......NO. Trump was not right again. He knew NOTHING about the ability of the controllers on duty at the time of the crash.

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You utter loser shut tf up and eat crow for once in your pathetic weaselly existence.

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@BKB.......The fact that there was one controller handling aircraft and helicopters has absolutely NOTHING to do with the DEI policies. NOTHING!!!! The controllers were shorter staffed yet still acceptable according to the FAA.

Trump jumped the gun and made accusations that DEI policies were responsible for this accident. Trump knew NOTHING about who the controllers were, their experience, any disabilities or their knowledge of the job. NOTHING!!!!!!! Trump needed to wait until the investigation is complete before shooting his mouth off. When questioned how Trump knew DEI policies were to blame for this accident, Trump's answer was "common sense". Really?????? He actually said that?????? WTF??????

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@BKB.....Again, no intelligent retort from Trump supporters. When are you guys going to realize these silly memes and name calling is totally meaningless; laughable really. When the hard truths about Trump are brought to light, give us an intelligent come back and prove us wrong. You can't? Your retorts just prove you have no leg to stand on as you try to justify what Trump has either said or done that is derogatory or just plain dumb.

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Please, I cannot express this enough, but you seriously need help like yesterday over your obsession of this man. To be honest, I don't think I can do another 4 years of liberals complaining about this man who's done more in 11 days of being in office than Biden ever did

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Take your retarded gaslighting elsewhere, lowlife scum.

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More name calling. Grow up.

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Oh no did the nazi MAGAt Trumper T-rumper Trumpet call you a name? So sad, sac the fuck up you pussy.

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Another intelligent come back. I have never referred to Trump supporters as you did ("nazi MAGAt Trumper T-rumper Trumpet") in your response to my reply. That is just childish. Does it make you feel good to call people names like Trump does?. What President in the history of our country, besides Trump, ever stooped so low as to call their opposition names?

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STFU spastic lol

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@MiyagiDoMAGA....... All you have to say is STFU??? Why no answer to my question, "What President in the history of our country, besides Trump ever stooped so lo as to call their opposition names? No more childish retorts. If you don't have an honest answer, then zip it.

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"What President in the history..."

None. It's refreshing, isn't it?

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STFU moron lol

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@MiyagiDoMAGA........Don't like to hear the truth so all you have to say is "STFU"? You are laughable. Sorry for your dismay.

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STFU commie dickhead lol, I had better things to do with my weekend that bore myself with your played out schtick.

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