Or will ALL of them refuse to believe he lost. Predictably MAGAs will go nuts and say it was stolen again but will any of you accept it and move on with your lives?
Will you riot?
Trump is expected to win. Will leftists riot? Yes, I think that's a safe bet. Will you condemn rioting by the left?
shareI think you have already decided that Trump won and will demand that he be installed as president after he loses the electoral vote.
shareLike you guys did with Hilary? Or did you all forget about that.
shareI did not vote for Clinton. I have not forgotten anything, like how Trump promised to put her in prison but back away from that promise when he was president elect. There are not only two sides here.
shareBut you forgot about the massive campaign for four straight years of calling Russian interference and trying to destroy the electoral college, huh?
shareI did not forget that. What does that have to do with demands that Trump should be installed as president after he lost the electoral vote or that Trump promised to put Clinton in prison?
shareI remember exactly where I was that dark day in American History when crazed Hillary voters tried to overthrow democracy by rioting. Then they sent death threats to electors to try to overturn the election. Trump should have locked all of them along with Hillary up for the rest of their lives in solitary confinement. There is no place in our democracy for political violence yet the left seems to love it.
7-13 and 9-15 Never Forget.
There has only ever once been a riot / insurrection on the result of an election.
You know who that was .
The question the thread is asking is will you do it again?
I realize that the media memory holes leftist violence, but Pepperidge Farms remembers.
From Trump's 2017 inauguration:
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1848229742798872716
hmm , I'll just go with the same excuse as magas use for J6: That was a peaceful day out in the park with a picnic and bottle of dr pepper .
to back this up:
In late November 2017, six people charged with rioting went on trial. Prosecutors alleged that these six people were taking part in DisruptJ20 protests and vandalism.[37] A jury trial found the six defendants not guilty on all counts in December 2017.[38] On January 18, 2018, the U.S. Justice Department dropped charges against 129 people, leaving 59 defendants to face charges related to the DisruptJ20 protest.[39] By early July 2018, federal prosecutors had dropped all charges against all defendants in the case.[40]
Nobody ever convicted - couldnt have been that big a deal.
Although i will concede your point that there was some dem disruption
LOL you sure about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V84UMWm5w3M
shareHillary Clinton was expected to win in 2016, Donald Trump ended up winning. Donald Trump was expected to win in 2020, Joe Biden ended up winning. So who really knows if Donald Trump or Kamala Harris will end up winning the 2024 election.
shareWho cares if they accept it? What are they going to do? Dress up in their XXL Walmart combat fatigues, waddle up to the Capitol and try another insurrection? They’ll end up in the same government funded accommodation as the Jan 6 criminals.
shareIt will be the end of the MAGA party and the beginning of the Trump trials
shareIf Trump loses, and there is evidence that the election was not run fairly, we'll probably see something like 2020, when Trump lost an election that was clearly unfair. People complained, a small number peacefully protested at the Capitol for a few hours, along with an army of FBI plants and Antifa member trying to rile up trouble. When 8pm curfew came, they all quietly went home. Since then, they've let it be known that the think the election was unfair, but they've not rioted or done anything other than try to rally support for the 2024 election.
At the moment, the nation's support for Trump seems overwhelming, and it's hard to envision him losing. However, that was the case in 2020, too. It seems impossible to imagine a scenario where Harris wins a fair election. Adding to that, things like battleground states announcing they might need as many as 10 days to count votes, while much larger states like California and Texas can do so in a matter of hours, is cause for concern.
So do I think any of the MAGAs will automatically decry a loss by Trump as the result of cheating? Of course some will. Most, I believe, will base their reaction on the circumstances.
Damn,you’re radicalized!
shareI'm a middle-of-the-road, left-leaning on some issues, right on others, voter who is only casually interested in politics. For you to have read something as moderate and non-radical as what I wrote and consider it radicalized tells me that you are a far-fringe activist.
shareNo you’re not.
You whitewashed trumps coup on J6 to overthrow our Democracy
You’re brainwashed and radicalized. Period.
Interesting. I'm a pro-choice atheist who doesn't like Trump much at all, yet somehow I'm brainwashed and radicalized. Or, I'm what you fringe folks can't understand: a free thinking moderate who pays attention to facts, and doesn't buy into either party's line.
I've seen no evidence whatsoever that Trump attempted any sort of coup or insurrection. That's all made up to radicalize folks like you. Read what he actually said and did that day, and you won't find anything supporting your statements. It's just like Russian collusion, white supremacists being fine people, injecting bleach, and the rest of the fabricated stories created to discredit him.
As hard as it may be for you to fathom, there are many like me. I can dislike Trump while remaining honest about him, and will reluctantly vote for him to keep the clearly worse alternative out of office.
Unfortunately, far-left radicals like Yatzi don't comprehend the meaning of a moderate.
shareIt shouldn't surprise me, but it still does that so many people are incapable of looking at things with an open mind. I'm not in any way biased for or against Trump, or Harris. I read, I observe, I consider sources, and come to conclusions. But then so many people will repeat known falsehoods without batting an eye, and you can tell they really believe what they are saying.
shareI'm fairly certain many of them know that a certain claim may be bullshit, but they run with it to cointinue the narrative.
share“ 've seen no evidence whatsoever that Trump attempted any sort of coup or insurrection.”
There ya go!!
If you can’t see what he did, then you’re radicalized.
He never conceded the 2020 election that HE KNEW HE LOST , then called his MAGA morons to Washington for a fake STOP THE STEAL rally. Watch the videos for what happened next
Lmao, you're so full of shit. You're a redcap and you know it (and so do we).
shareAll I can say is that the fact that you think that demonstrates how far down the media rabbit hole you've fallen.
shareWhatever you say, redcap.
shareThat's all you've got, isn't it? Rather than engage me on what I said, you lob an insult at me, hoping that will suffice.
I meet a LOT of people like me. We're not heavily engaged in politics, we lean left on a lot of issues, we're appalled at Kamala Harris and the Democrats, and are reluctantly voting for Donald Trump. You can pretend we're all radicalized, MAGA hat wearing lunatics, but we're not.
I oppose all forms of racism.
I'm opposed to censorship in all forms.
I support free speech at all times, and in every instance.
I don't think men should be allowed to compete in women's sports.
I don't think a child should be allowed to make irreversible decisions regarding their body, be it a tattoo or a sex change.
I'm pro-choice, and believe abortion should be legal up until 22 weeks in a pregnancy.
I'm against U.S. involvement in foreign wars.
I'm pro-immigrant and in favor of immigration, when done legally.
If any of that sounds like a radicalized, far-right nutjob to you, I think you need to reassess where you place people on the political spectrum. Pretty much EVERYTHING I believe was considered left-leaning until recently.
Only if they can "officially" rule out that there were any shenanigans by the Dems which will not happen since we're still waiting for an "official investigation" of the rigged and stolen 2020 election.
shareNobody needs evidence to know that the election was stolen from Trump. We can easily tell by the shady circumstances of the results. No proof needed at all. And let's not forget that every average person LOVED Trump and wanted him back again, so it makes no sense for Biden and Kamala to suddenly win.
share"Nobody needs evidence to know that the election was stolen from Trump. We can easily tell by the shady circumstances of the results. No proof needed at all."
Well you sir, are insane
Intelligent people need evidence. I can’t believe that needs to be explained to someone.
shareThey already proved that the claims presented about voting corruption were horseshit by judges who were largely put in place by Trump. No evidence will be good enough for you because Trump will keep denying that he lost.
shareWhat are you talking about, those judges ignored the evidence.
They refused to see or accept the evidence just like you leftoids do when evidence is provided which is why I don't even bother to provide any since it's futile.
Just because Trump chooses someone doesn't mean that the person is not biased, corrupt or compromised.
In reality, all the judges were Democrats who planned for this.
shareThey didn't have to plan it, those judges are beholden and bound to the establishment that is in control of every aspect of their life.
They were not going to risk everything by agreeing to something that would have eventually overturned the election...
It would have been a career ending decision for them or worse.
So even if some of them were not corrupt or compromised, they were too weak to make the right decision.
Besides, they knew that those were only "lawsuits" and not official investigations, so it was easier for them to leave that burden and responsibility for others.
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In cases of election fraud, proving "standing" can be tricky. Courts often require plaintiffs to demonstrate direct tangible harm.
Even with strong evidence of fraud, if you can't show how it personally affected you, the case might be dismissed, especially when facing a politically hostile court.
For example, many of the lawsuits filed after the 2020 U.S. presidential election were dismissed due to "lack of standing."
The plaintiffs couldn't prove they were directly harmed by the alleged fraud, even though they had strong evidence suggesting statistically impossible irregularities.
To be clear, Trump lost over 60 court cases during his attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Now since many of them were republicans appointed by Trump himself, it's pretty unbelievable that not even one was "strong enough" to make the "right" decision, as you say. Also, let's not forget that Trump's BFF Rudy Giuliani himself straight up said he doesn't have any evidence of election fraud.
Trump himself hired two cybersecurity companies, Simpatico Security Systems and Berkeley Research Group, specifically to find evidence the election was stolen. After extensive investigations they both reported back to Trump that there was NO EVIDENCE the election was stolen. It wasn't what he wanted to hear so he conveniently ignores these findings when continuing to lie about a stolen election only he tried to steal.
Also, Trump keeps claiming he has “irrefutable evidence” but keeps refusing to show said evidence. What’s the hold up? Why hasn’t he shown it yet?
Another thing, can you Trump supporters please explain how they "rigged" the presidential election, but still elected republicans to the House in 2020 ON THE SAME BALLOTS?! The fact is that tens of thousands of voters in swing states split their ballots. They either left the presidential section blank, or voted Biden, and down ballot they voted republican for congress, for State Executive Officers or for State Legislatures. Take Georgia for instance.....TWENTY-EIGHT THOUSAND voters voted republican all down the ballot but voted Biden or ignored the presidential election. Republican congressmen got 33,000 more votes than Trump! And look at Wisconsin....Trump lagged Wisconsin’s five GOP congressmen by 63,547. Were they FRAUDULENT VOTES?
Now since many of them were republicans appointed by Trump himself,
but still elected republicans to the House in 2020 ON THE SAME BALLOTS?
Trump himself hired two cybersecurity companies, Simpatico Security Systems and Berkeley Research Group, specifically to find evidence the election was stolen.
Were they FRAUDULENT VOTES?
Also, Trump keeps claiming he has “irrefutable evidence” but keeps refusing to show said evidence. What’s the hold up? Why hasn’t he shown it yet?
So if a Republican doesn’t agree with you they are a Democrat? It is so absurd the lengths you guys will go to for Trump.
shareThat's exactly how it seems the logic goes. If you don't agree with only a single Republican statement, you must 100% be a Democrat. If you don't agree with a single Democrat statement, you must 100% be a Republican. Far on both sides have never heard of the term "bipartisan".
shareAnd you know that the judges ignored the evidence how exactly?
Pretend you are a judge for a second and consider the claims that Trump presented. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out. Do you just believe Trump because of who he is? Investigate why the claims were proved untrue.
Why would anyone blindly commit to accepting the result, when we don’t know what is going to happen?
How about if Trump wins, and there is evidence that the republicans committed voted fraud. Would you accept the result?
If Kamala loses will you people try to overturn the election like you did in 2016 by rioting and sending death threats to electors?
Also the right never rioted, you’re spreading lies and disinformation.