Trying to gauge the level of hatred for Trump. - Donald Trump Discussion

[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

Trying to gauge the level of hatred for Trump.
posted 17 minutes ago by BicD (130)
Let's imagine for a moment that we were able to predict the future.

Political Fan Fiction for the future?! Sounds stimulating let's play!!

In 2 years from now, under the Harris/Walz administration...

Violent crime is at an all time high.

Wow! Crime is at an all-time high? How? What happened to the police, the national guard, are they dead, are they doing the crime? Did they all move to an off-shore facility? Where is DJT? Is he the leader of the Crime Wave or the Resistance?

Unemployment is at an all time high.

OHHH NOO!! Are the unemployed the members of the crime wave? Are the employed allowed to shoot the unemployed? Are cats being eaten or is it just the dogs?

Inflation is at an all time high.

Oh man this is BAD, this is REALLY BAAAAAADDD!!

Illegal border crossings are at an all time high.

But if there are no jobs WHY are they coming to the USofA? Did all the citizens of the USofA just leave and go to Canada? Maybe Australia?

The deficit is at an all time high.

Okay who OWNS that debt, China or Russia? Maybe not Russia because they are broker than a joke. 🤣🗽

The US is at war with Russia who is backed by China and the draft has been reinstated.

That war would NOT last too long because the greatest military in the world would decimate both Russia AND China. Does the rest of the world NOT get involved?

In 2 years from now under the Trump/Vance administration...

Violent crime is at an all time low.

Are we still in Political Fan Fiction mode?

Unemployment is at an all time low.

Inflation is at an all time low.

Illegal border crossings are at an all time low.

The deficit has been cut by 1/4.

Wow, Voldermort doesn't even have that kind of power.

Obviously I'm not saying that either scenario will happen but..... if you knew for a fact that one of these scenarios is going to happen depending on who wins the next election and you have to vote for one candidate, would you put your hatred aside and do what's best for yourself and this Country and vote for President Trump.

Here is your problem gentle poster. You forgot the ? mark on your question. What does that mean? It means you actually believe that DJT/Vance are promising to FIX something that isn't broken, will NEVER happen, and do something that they have NO power to do or have ANY control over. 🗽

If you KNEW, for a fact that, your Harris/Walz fantasy was going to happen, AND you were an American you would have an obligation to tell the powers that be just when and where this apocalypse was going to happen, who was involved, and you would try and stop it. Wouldn't you?

YOU want America to fail. YOU want Americans to suffer. YOU want the world to be in turmoil for a demagog.

🤣🤣🗽🗽

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[–] itsbananas2024 (1763) 2 months ago

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

Too late to delete the content as I already read your post. 🤣

Are you ashamed of your succinct but rambling message? Don't be as I was quite humbled that you were so thoughtful in both reading my post and replying. 🗽😉

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[–] itsbananas2024 (1763) 2 months ago

I felt like i was going over board on the dickish-meter and I felt bad. So I course corrected. Sue me.

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

[–] itsbananas2024 (1113) an hour ago
I felt like i was going over board on the dickish-meter and I felt bad. So I course corrected. Sue me.

I have no need to sue you like DJT might have done because he is so thin-skinned. 😂

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

A version of your Fan-Fiction DID happen during the Pandemic and J6. Do you know what DJT/Pence did?

They failed.
They mismanaged.
They underperformed.
They managed to the point of malfeasance.
They governed to the point of Sedition.
They criminally dismissed science.

They were both FIRED and should have been constitutionally disbarred from EVER holding public office again anywhere. DJT should have been criminally prosecuted for his inaction as Commander-In-Chief for dereliction of duty and not honoring the oath of office.

There is no hate for DJT by the majority. What there is, sounds like accountability, while President DJT worked for the citizens of the USofA. DJT failed in his job, and he was Fired. 🗽👍👍

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[–] BicD (162) 2 months ago

I didn't think you would actually answer the question.

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

[–] BicD (131) 6 minutes ago
I didn't think you would actually answer the question.

Try again.

1. Why would you think that I wouldn't answer the question? You don't know me. 🤷‍♂️

2. Your question isn't a Yes or No question. Why? I don't hate DJT and Hate isn't the primary or single issue that voters are acknowledging in this upcoming election. 🗽🤣

3. The false equivalency of how you FEEL about a candidate and their performance isn't a real choice.

This election isn't about "The Lesser or Two Evils".
This election is about refutting "False Equivalences".
This election is about "Accountability".
This elections isn't about "The Ends Justifying the Means".
This election is about "Temperament".

Signed,

Reality

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[–] BicD (162) 2 months ago

Yeah, you still didn't answer.

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

[–] BicD (133) 25 minutes ago
Yeah, you still didn't answer.

"No", I would not vote for DJT/Vance on the results of your hypothetical scenario.

Sorry for throwing a curveball into your summary because of my datapoint, that doesn't mean that I "Hate" DJT either. 🗽🤣

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

Obviously statistics have proven that the opposite has been true. Why would anyone think that Harris/Watz wasn't the best decision for this country? No need to hate Trump, but it would be wise to acknowledge that Trump/Pence was a disaster and that there is every factual reason to believe that Trump/Vance would be, as well.

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[–] BicD (162) 2 months ago

You have two completely made up scenarios to choose from. I'm not saying that Trump / Vance could pull ANY of it off...I'm just simply asking if you would vote for Trump if the County was in the following shape in 2 years?

Violent crime is at an all time low.
Unemployment is at an all time low.
Inflation is at an all time low.
Illegal border crossings are at an all time low.
The deficit has been cut by 1/4.
The US is not in any wars nor are we funding any wars.

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

[–] BicD (132) a minute ago
You have two completely made up scenarios to choose from.

Fair enough and in your made up scenario you are also asking everyone to dismiss everything else that you know about DJT and everything else that DJT has done.

I'm not saying that Trump / Vance could pull ANY of it off...I'm just simply asking if you would vote for Trump if the County was in the following shape in 2 years?

But THAT is exactly what the issue is and that is accountability.

Violent crime is at an all time low.
Unemployment is at an all time low.
Inflation is at an all time low.
Illegal border crossings are at an all time low.
The deficit has been cut by 1/4.
The US is not in any wars nor are we funding any wars.

You're implying that under DJT/Vance that they achieved those things or they can take credit because they inherited those achievements? 🤔

You're attempting to want your responders to grade Trump/Vance on an emotional curve.

🤣

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[–] JoWilli (19964) 2 months ago

how was Trump/Pence a disaster? have you not been outside in the past 3 years?

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[–] BicD (162) 2 months ago

"No", I would not vote for DJT/Vance on the results of your hypothetical scenario."

Wow...and you said I wanted America to fail and I wanted Americans to suffer.

You would rather have this :

Violent crime is at an all time high.
Unemployment is at an all time high.
Inflation is at an all time high.
Illegal border crossings are at an all time high.
The deficit is at an all time high.
The US is at war with Russia who is backed by China and the draft has been reinstated.

over this

Violent crime is at an all time low.
Unemployment is at an all time low.
Inflation is at an all time low.
Illegal border crossings are at an all time low.
The deficit has been cut by 1/4.
The US is not in any wars nor are we funding any wars.

I think the last 4 years have been horrible and I believe the next 4 years will be even worse if Harris wins however, if the roles were reversed in the scenarios and Harris has the all time lows etc...I would vote for her in a split second even after she made Taylor Swift the Secretary of Defense.

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[–] JoWilli (19964) 2 months ago

I think you responded to the wrong person...

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

Trump ignored Covid and tried to act like the US didn't need to do anything. When Covid 100% blew up, he tried to act like anyone concerned was crazy. He made up stats. He lied about what was going on. He suggested we tried to find a way to inject bleach into our bodies. He did everything he could except follow the pandemic playbooks that past administrations had followed successfully. Had there been a pandemic like Covid in the US prior? Nope. Not since the Spanish Flu.

Denying Covid and refusing to do anything about it for most of his presidency was a huge factor on why the economy was so disastrous at the beginning of the Biden Administration. Biden has done nothing accept improve the economy, and anyone who says otherwise desperately needs to take Economics 101.

Trump raised taxes on the poor and middle class. He lowered taxes on the wealthy. He made all sorts of deals to help him and his buddies get richer.

The immigration bill that was going to be passed by both the House and the Senate and was a compromise that almost everyone in Congress was happy with, was killed because Trump made phone calls. And why did he do this? Because he wasn't interested in a solution, he wanted immigration to be a problem so it could be a campaign issue.

Trump is not interested in solving problems or helping people. He just wants power.

If you're too dumb to realize this, I can't help you.

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[–] JoWilli (19964) 2 months ago

oof, thats some serious TDS there.

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

[–] JoWilli (18931) 5 hours ago

how was Trump/Pence a disaster?

I answered your question.

[–] JoWilli (18931) 2 hours ago

oof, thats some serious TDS there.

Absolutely! Pretending that everything I said didn't 100% answer your question and isn't 100% accurate is some serious TDS on your part.

I'm so glad we agree :-)

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[–] SamNoyoun (5847) 2 months ago

Trump raised taxes on the poor and middle class.

Come on now, with no shortage of actual horrible things he did there's simply no reason to be making stuff up!

Although one could certainly argue that the fact that his tariffs disproportionately affected the lower income classes amounted to a tax...

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

That’s what Trump wants you to believe, but unless you are making more than $200,000, the Trump tax code raises your taxes.

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[–] Pete314 (3010) 2 months ago

Liar. Trump was the first leader in the world who wanted to cancel flights from China. Dumb libturds called this "racist" and started to hug Chinese instead...
It's you who need help because of your TDS. As lefties tend to do just the opposite of what Trump says, he should really advise you not to let yourself be run over by a train...

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[–] tvfan (12741) 2 months ago

lmao 🤣

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

And after that he did? That’s right, absolutely nothing. His one and only “solution” was to ban flights from one country.

Newsflash, it would have been too late, anyway. The virus had already spread around most of the world and was in the United States. He chose to ignore it and hope it would just magically go away on its own.

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[–] Pete314 (3010) 2 months ago

It went away on its own, genius. Like every virus does sooner or later.

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[–] tvfan (12741) 2 months ago

Except for the “woke mind virus”, Ziggy is still infected with it.

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

Yep! Quite woke and proud to be so.

What does woke have to do with knowing that Trump was a disaster as President?

Woke means to wake up to discrimination and hypocrisy and hatred.
Woke means not being hateful towards people who come from a different culture or background than you.
Woke means not hating people who are of a different race or gender or sexual orientation.
Woke means respecting other people and being inclusive.

Not hating people who are different than you? To quote Mona Lisa Vito from My Cousin Vinny, "Oh my G--! What a f---ing nightmare!"

Seriously, if the best you can do is claim that trying to be loving, compassionate and accepting of others is not something to be proud of, you are the one who should be embarrassed and ashamed.

I won't have any trouble living with your disappointment.

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[–] tvfan (12741) 2 months ago

lmao, No, woke means the opposite of all that. They even brainwashed you into believing all those lies.

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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[–] Pete314 (3010) 2 months ago

Funny.

"Woke means not being hateful towards people who come from a different culture or background than you."

And now look at the hatred you bear towards Trump and his supporters, freaky little Hypocrite...

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

Recognizing that an individual person is unfit for the role of President of the United States is not the same thing as hating anyone.

The fact that you would imply that dislike of one person is the same thing as hating all of that individual’s supporters is exactly the opposite of woke.

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[–] Pete314 (3010) 2 months ago

So you say you are woke but don't act like a woke person? As I said, hypocrite... 🙄

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

It sounds like you don't know what woke means. I've explained it to you very simply. But, just like my students, I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you. At some point, you have to do it yourself.

If you don't believe me about the definition of woke, look it up. This is a word that's been around for about 60 years.

"Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English (AAVE) originally meaning alertness to racial prejudice and discrimination.[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke

Put simply, woke means to wake up and notice the prejudice and discrimination of those around you.

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

Really? Did small pox just go away? Did polio just go away? Viruses don't just go away, genius.

Wouldn't it have been great if it had never spread to the extent it did? Wouldn't it have been nice if he had taken it seriously in 2019? Perhaps he could have given the medical community what they requested instead of hoarding all the the surplus supplies.

There are many, many things Trump could have done to be proactive. He chose to sit on his butt and send nasty tweets.

It doesn't take a "genius" to realize how completely brainwashed you are.

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[–] Pete314 (3010) 2 months ago

To which extend did it spread, genius? You are promoting the same lousy government that forced social media to publish faked numbers about Covid. It's not me who is brainwashed...

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

Are you saying there were less COVID-19 cases in 2020 than in 2019?

Also, the word you were looking for is "extent," not "extend." Extend means to reach farther, while extent refers to how far something reaches or the degree to which something has grown.

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[–] Pete314 (3010) 2 months ago

How many cases of the ordinary flu were there in 2020? Oh, wait, yes, zero... 🙄

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[–] Ziggy (1799) 2 months ago

That's not actually true. There were definitely people who had the flu and some who were diagnosed with the flu. Not everyone who gets sick or has flu like symptoms goes to the doctor and gets diagnosed for the flu. Many just stay home, rest and recover.

Also, there is no such thing as the "ordinary flu" as the flu is different every season. There are 4 mains strands of the flu, and those strands are broken down into sub strands. So there are many, many forms of the flu.

Also, when most people are staying home and avoiding other people, that's going to bring down the numbers. That was the entire point of the Covid measures.

Seriously, put two and two together. It's almost as if your trying not to understand how things work.

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[–] Pete314 (3010) 2 months ago

Which statistics? Are you retarded? Or unable to read them? Oh, wait, a leftie, so obviously both... 🙄

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[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

The worst rated VP in history, what would go wrong?

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

Trying to gauge the level of hatred for Trump.
posted 5 hours ago by BicD (134)
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Let's imagine for a moment that we were able to predict the future.

Obviously I'm not saying that either scenario will happen but..... if you knew for a fact that one of these scenarios is going to happen depending on who wins the next election and you have to vote for one candidate, would you put your hatred aside and do what's best for yourself and this Country and vote for President Trump.

Doing what is best for the country would be to NOT elect Trump/Vance, as DJT has shown that he already was BAD for both the Country and the World and atonement can't be made by achieving some good results on the Country's dime and time.

That is NOT how that works. 🤣🗽🗽🗽

P.S.,

I don't hate and have no hatred to put aside for or due to DJT.

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[–] BicD (162) 2 months ago

It is mind boggling how much you hate America but I will change the scenario to see if there is ANY scenario in which you would vote for Trump.

If it was 100% GUARANTEED that all of this would happen, would you vote for Trump if ..

Violent crime in the US is non existent. In fact there is no crime.
There is no such thing as unemployment. Everyone has a job.
There is no inflation. Everyone is rich.
Border crossing is legal so everyone can come on in.
There is zero deficit.
Taxes no longer exist.
Gas is free but if you own an electric car, you get $100k from the gov't each year.
Everyone gets a new house every 10 years for free.
Everyone gets a new vehicle every 4 years for free.
There are no more wars ever.
There is no more cancer or ANY diseases that can kill people.
There are no more hurricanes or ANY natural disasters ever in the US.
There is no medical cost for anything ever for anyone.
Everyone goes to college for free.

Trump would be in office for 4 years but all of these accomplishments of his would continue for 200 years. Show me how much you hate this Country and tell me you still wouldn't vote for Trump.

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

[–] BicD (135) 12 hours ago
It is mind boggling how much you hate America but I will change the scenario to see if there is ANY scenario in which you would vote for Trump.

Please explain what it is that I have done, said, intimated, typed or implied that brings you to that nonsensical conclusion?

If it was 100% GUARANTEED that all of this would happen, would you vote for Trump if ..

Did the Bad Orange Man threaten you with political ostracization? You do know that you don't HAVE to vote for Orange Julius? Don't reward a serial Loser and don't allow Liars to take your vote for themselves in a futile ruse to stay out of jail. Only a demagogue would use "100% GUARANTEED" like a Demi-god. The following is 100% GUARANTEED what DJT incompetently Accomplished:

•• DJT Completed his one and only term and expanded the deficit each year of his term••
• Only 13 Presidents failed to get re-elected.
• Only 5 Presidents failed to win the popular vote.
• Only 4 Presidents have been impeached or resigned.
• Only 1 President has ever been criminally indicted.

And only ONE President has done ALL four. Who? DJT! 🗽

• DJT didn't lower your taxes (He deferred them)
• He didn't get you that healthcare coverage
• He did not unite the USA, he divided it
• He didn't lower your prescription prices
• Didn't get your roads or bridges built
• He didn't decrease the deficit
• He didn't end the opioid crisis

•• He made over 250 visits to his golf clubs costing US taxpayers $150 million••

• He didn't revive the coal industry
• He didn't make covid-19 'disappear'••
• He didn't make Mexico pay for the wall
• He is ranked the worst President in history••
• He added $2 Billion a month in tariff costs to the American consumer
• He had a net-negative jobs creations for his administration
• He decreased corporate taxes, passing the tax burden to the workers
• He added $ 7.8 Trillion to the deficit - a full 25% of the total
• He incited an insurrection against our government
• He is the only president to never achieve 50% approval.
• He didn't put "America first" and he sure didn't "Drain the Swamp..."
• He left office with the worst job numbers of any President since the Great Depression with a net job loss over his term!

This is for BicD, and other maga-billy cult zombies, who won't get the message, too far gone.

Signed,

Reality

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[–] Branson26 (985) 2 months ago

No sources. What a joke.

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

[–] BicD (135) 14 hours ago
If it was 100% GUARANTEED that all of this would happen, would you vote for Trump if ..

Violent crime in the US is non existent. In fact there is no crime.
There is no such thing as unemployment. Everyone has a job.
There is no inflation. Everyone is rich.
Border crossing is legal so everyone can come on in.
There is zero deficit.
Taxes no longer exist.
Gas is free but if you own an electric car, you get $100k from the gov't each year.
Everyone gets a new house every 10 years for free.
Everyone gets a new vehicle every 4 years for free.
There are no more wars ever.
There is no more cancer or ANY diseases that can kill people.
There are no more hurricanes or ANY natural disasters ever in the US.
There is no medical cost for anything ever for anyone.
Everyone goes to college for free.

"No".

Trump would be in office for 4 years but all of these accomplishments of his would continue for 200 years.

I would vote for the other Candidate that also 100% GUARANTEED that all of those things could be accomplished. Why? You don't reward Liars, or criminal Lying, which DJT is and does.

Show me how much you hate this Country and tell me you still wouldn't vote for Trump.

DJT is NOT the Country. 🗽

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[–] SamNoyoun (5847) 2 months ago

I think you need to move to Hollywood, your vivid imagination would no doubt place you in high demand as a screenwriter!

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[–] SamNoyoun (5847) 2 months ago

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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I haven't laughed so hard in ages...Thanks for that! 🙂

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[–] Pete314 (3010) 2 months ago

Yeah, moronic laughing without any reason becomes fashionable now thanks to Skamala...

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[–] tvfan (12741) 2 months ago

What else do you expect from brainwashed geriatrics.

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[–] BKB (9911) 2 months ago

In theory, you would think this, that people would put aside their "feelings" and vote for what's best for the Country and not a popularity contest??

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[–] BicD (162) 2 months ago

Exactly

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[–] moviechatterer (15638) 2 months ago

I would put my hatred aside and vote for trump if it guaranteed your trump scenario
Trouble is we dont know whats going to happen , so we can only guess

and on the basis trump is a mentally ill fucking moron and the last goddam person on earth qualified to be in the whitehouse I will vote for literally anybody else.

y'know , aside from serial killers and the like , and his fellow mental patients .
Just anybody "normal" , from left or right side.

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[–] BicD (162) 2 months ago

"I would put my hatred aside and vote for trump if it guaranteed your trump scenario"

Exactly!

Yes, the scenario guaranteed if elected, this Country would be in the best shape in the history of our Country.

I too could put aside my disdain for anyone if it was a guarantee that our Country would have the success described in the scenario. The problem is, some people on this board would rather have the horrible scenario for their family and friends and this Country than to simply vote for someone that could guarantee the best scenario.

Remember, I said this scenario and the answer was still NO...

Violent crime in the US is non existent. In fact there is no crime.
There is no such thing as unemployment. Everyone has a job.
There is no inflation. Everyone is rich.
Border crossing is legal so everyone can come on in.
There is zero deficit.
Taxes no longer exist.
Gas is free but if you own an electric car, you get $100k from the gov't each year.
Everyone gets a new house every 10 years for free.
Everyone gets a new vehicle every 4 years for free.
There are no more wars ever.
There is no more cancer or ANY diseases that can kill people.
THERE ARE NO MORE HURRICANES OR ANY NATURAL DISASTERS EVER IN THE US. (NO was also said to this, wow)
There is no medical cost for anything ever for anyone.
Everyone goes to college for free.

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[–] BKB (9911) 2 months ago

47 Replies with only 5 replies showing because of the 23 pinheads I have on ignore which would explain the high reply count and I don't regret it either

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[–] SamNoyoun (5847) 2 months ago

I love when folks brag about how much of a pussy they are!

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[–] NorrinRad (5468) 2 months ago

[–] BKB (9053) 2 hours ago
47 Replies with only 5 replies showing because of the 23 pinheads I have on ignore

How do you know who are your designated on ignore Pinheads?

which would explain the high reply count and I don't regret it either

Math and logic are NOT your strong suite is it? This is NOT your thread, NONE are your post, and they are NOT replying to you now, are they? 🤣😎🗽

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14411) 2 months ago

I will be honest and say those scenarios aren't 100% accurate, but you're close with both as well. The only thing anyone can agree on is the fact that no matter who wins, nobody's going to accept the results of this next election, even if it's conducted fairly. If Trump wins, you'll have the Left going even crazier than when they started in 2016. If Cram-It-All wins, people around the US, particularly those who have been screwed over by the Biden Regime for the past 4 years, are gonna be pissed. It's a Catch-22 scenario here.

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