MovieChat Forums > Donald Trump Discussion > About that Trump-Russia "Hoax"

About that Trump-Russia "Hoax"


How much you want to bet Fox News won't publish this?

GOP operative’s conviction over illegal Russian contributions to Trump campaign upheld

https://www.aol.com/news/gop-operative-conviction-over-illegal-180109584.html

A GOP political operative’s conviction over steering illegal Russian contributions to former President Trump’s 2016 campaign was upheld by a federal appeals court on Friday.

The District of Columbia Circuit Court of Appeals rejected the appeal of Jesse Benton, a veteran political operative.

Benton was convicted in late 2022. He had been charged with helping to orchestrate an illegal donation to the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee (RNC) for a Russian national, Roman Vasilenko.

Benton’s consulting firm received $100,000. The operative created a fake invoice on which he said the fee was for consulting. He then arranged for Vasilenko to meet with Trump at a fundraiser without revealing his nationality to the campaign or the former president, according to court documents

reply

Trump would probably claim nobody ever told him that Putin was Russian.

reply

If anything this proves a Benton-Russia connection, and possibly for the only purpose of putting Trump in a bad light. Only the weak-minded hateful would fall for it. Hillary actually did collaborate with Russia in order to sway an election, yet no charges. The FBI admits they lied about the Hunter Biden laptop to sway an election yet no charges. Biden actually broke the law by taking classified materials as VP, completely without the protection of law yet no charges. This fascination is not about seeking justice but to provide an avenue for hatred, and an obvious desire for the destruction of the US.

reply

Honest question:What would make you accept that Trump may have committed a crime?

reply

I think a more obvious question is what would it take for you to recognize the inconsistencies of the way in which these two presidents were treated? Add in the many firsts that have come about as a result of the efforts of the dems and it paints an incriminating picture.

reply

That wasn't an answer. We can talk about "equal justice" after you have have one.

reply

Hard to get anything by you eh? IMO you aren't worth talking to with your active denial of reality. If you want the respect of having your words taken seriously you have to be respectable yourself.

reply

Why can't you just answer the question?:What would make you accept that Trump is guilt of something? It's very basic.

reply

Refer to the previous post of mine.

reply

"Hillary actually did collaborate with Russia"

wow thats a new one! have you got a deranged twitter post to back that up , in the absence of evidence?

reply

Trump always said he could do anything. Why did Trump not ensure Clinton was brought to justice? Is Trump conspiring with Clinton to keep her out of prison?

Which FBI agent "lied about the Hunter Biden laptop to sway an election"?

I hope that Biden and Pence someday face charges of mishandling classified information. Maybe if they had refused to surrender it upon demand, then they would have been indicted for it like Trump was.

But they behaved like good little boys and turned it in when it was found.

reply

How does Trump's dick up your ass feel?

reply

do you have the evidence that Russia hijacked the election?

reply

The OP doesn't even say anything about hijacking.

reply

do you have the evidence about the Trump-Russia hoax?

yes

Mueller concluded there was no evidence and the Durham report concluded all the "evidence" presented by Nancy and the dems was fake.

reply

[–] JoWilli (15765) a month ago
do you have the evidence about the Trump-Russia hoax?
Mueller Report:

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/robert-mueller-congress-testimony/h_e774ff797421f43dd24b3dd8ad84fd9d
Mueller concluded there was no evidence and the Durham report concluded all the "evidence" presented by Nancy and the dems was fake.


1. Nope!

2. Nope!

Both Barr and Durham buried Trump criminality with their summaries and a final failed investigation by Durham that netted no one. Didn't Mueller's investigation catch a bunch of nerdowells of both the American and Russian variety, (34 with 7 being convicted so far)?

reply

Nobody is saying that.

The facts are:
-Russia DID attempt to help Trump win with a facebook campaign
-Russia did not succeed in making any real difference
-Trump was not in on it.

reply

Nancy and Hillary and millions of other still think Trump stole the election

The facts are:
-Russia DID attempt to help Trump win with a facebook campaign - true, but fake ads is not the same thing as hijacking an election.
-Russia did not succeed in making any real difference - true, more people voted for Trump than Hillary.
-Trump was not in on it. - true, thankfully Mueller investigated the election for 2 years to find this out.

more facts:
the Durham report concluded all the "evidence" presented by Nancy and the dems was fake.
the 2020 election was never investigated.


reply

" true, but fake ads is not the same thing as hijacking an election."
I agree . Had Russia succeeded ( by using even more ads or somethnign) I dont think that would have been grounds for a cancelling the result - peoples votes would still have been counted as for who they cast them



"Nancy and Hillary and millions of other"
I dont think they do .
Certainly you wont find anyone on this website fighting that fight , what does that tell us?

reply

I am fighting that fight to preserve history. most everyone has already forgotten the dems were the first election deniers.

you and I both know that dems will say the election is rigged again if Trump wins. if Biden wins then the election was fair and honest.

reply

lol

reply

thank you for agreeing with me...

reply

lol

reply

nice edit, lol but thank you for agreeing with me again....

reply

lol
What edit? Stop making things up like your bible stories.

reply

how do you know the Bible stories are made up?

reply

How do you know they are true?
Still have not answered my question on what did I edit. Because you can't. lol.

reply

its called Faith and the Bible.

did you find that wooden boat that existed over 5000 years ago? lol

reply

I'm not the one looking for some non existent wooden boat.

reply

you posted a while back that no one was able to find Noahs Ark so therefore it does not exist.

reply

Because it never did.

reply

do you have evidence to support this claim?

reply

Faith is believing without evidence. The Bible says that bats are birds, rabbits chew cud and the earth has ends.

reply

Hebrews 11:1 – “Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.”

God is never incorrect. Chewing the cub means “raised up whats been swallowed”. What the rabbit does is called refection, which is essentially the same thing as ruminations, another name for the process is cecotrophy.

The rabbit partially eats then poops it out so they can eat it later when they need it...they are eating partly digested food.

So see God was not incorrect, why would He be, He made the rabbit, what creator dont know his own creation.

Human understanding, or the lack thereof is from where the error comes.

I know we all tend to assume that every word in English has an exact corresponding word in every other language that has ever existed. We have a word called “bird” that refers to those feathered things with beaks, so everybody else must have a corresponding word, right? Wrong.



Ancient Hebrew did not have a word that meant “bird.” The closest equivalent was a word that actually meant “that thing with wings,” and it was used to describe birds, bats, flying insects, and pretty much any other living creature that, well, had wings.

Jesus went so far as to say, “I tell you this, that many Gentiles will come from all over the world—from east and west—and sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob at the feast in the Kingdom of Heaven. But many Israelites—those for whom the Kingdom was prepared—will [not]” (Matthew 8:11-12 NLT). That said, the geographical reach of the Roman Empire never exceeded four percent of the earth’s landmasses. So, what about the other 96 percent? After all, Jesus told His disciples, “But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you. And you will be my witnesses, telling people about me everywhere—in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth” (Acts 1:8 NLT).

you do know that the Old Testament was written in Hebrew right?

reply

You copy and pasted this from a Quora answer. I wish you would actually think about it rather than copying an apologists OPINION because these are not your words or your thoughts.

The rabbit does not chew 'cub' or 'cud' and to say that the Bible is the inspired word of God and it was a simple misunderstanding between God and the authors calls the whole book into question! How do we know what parts the writer just misunderstood? It's kind of important.

As far as Hebrew not having not having a word that meant 'bird' that is just absurd. In ancient Hebrew, they didn't just have a word for 'that thing that flies'. That is a lie, which you would know if you bothered to research anything that you copy and pasted from somewhere on the internet.

Then in order to cover your ass for lying you try to imply that I don't know that the Bible was written in Hebrew. Which, yes, in part it was, it was also written in Aramaic and the New Testament (Where your verses are copy/pasted) was originally written in Greek.

reply

16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

the writer was God, how could God misunderstand himself?

what is the ancient Hebrew word for bat or bird? do that research thing you talked about and tell everyone.

you just googled and found out that the Old Testament and was written in Hebrew and that the New Testament was written in Greek.

Aramaic came after Greek. if you would have done your research you would have know this. the New Testament was written after 30 AD so it couldnt have been written in Aramaic.

a Semitic language, a Syrian dialect of which was used as a lingua franca in the Near East from the 6th century BC. It gradually replaced Hebrew as the language of the Jewish people in those areas and was itself supplanted by Arabic in the 7th century AD.

reply

8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.

9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

can you prove that Faith exists or doesn't exist?

reply

Of course faith exists . . . I never said it doesn't. You have faith, defined as strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

reply

if you need proof then faith doesnt exist.

if you were born blind. would you believe there is a moon?

reply

JoWilli (15718) SAID 23 days ago

"how do you know the Bible stories are made up?
==============================================
I'm still waiting for anyone in the ENTIRE WORLD to document that they have seen Jesus who was "supposedly" resurrected. To my knowledge, there have been no sightings or photos of proof.

That is just one myth. There are plenty of others.

reply

please provide evidence that your great great great great great grandpa and grandma existed. going to need pictures and tangible evidence.

waiting patiently......

reply

there have been no sightings

Thousands of eyewitnesses, not to mention those that directly benefited from his miracles.

reply

Finally tvfan names a credible source.

After writing off all media as "MSM lies" , and all science as "paid shills" we finally find a true reliable source.

To be honest I'm surprised , I really didnt think you could feed 5000 with 5 fish , I guess if it was one of those Trump rally attendance estimates you could.

I've got my suspicions about the whole "Noah ark" story as well.

reply

5000 with 5 fish

It was five loaves and two fish.

reply

Which one is paranoid schizo: Sparky or JoWilli? Trump is the pathological liar and his groupies belong in the loony bin.

reply

LOL!

reply