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Have any Trump supporters watched the Frontline investigation on him?


I was just wondering if anyone watched Frontline's 'Democracy on Trial'
Which examines the criminal cases against former President Trump, examining the House Jan. 6 committee’s evidence and the historic charges against Trump.

How did you feel about it? I've always loved Frontline and Nova, probably the most reputable investigators out there, it was powerful to see so much that I didn't know about just so I could be fully informed about everything.

I'd like to hear your perspective if you defend Trump after watching it.

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I can't stand Trump. He's taken over the GOP and seems intent on using the RNC as his personal piggy bank. We had a conservative candidate, but the morons voting said he didn't have enough "sizzle." Yeah. You walk into a restaurant and order a big plate of ribeye "sizzle." "Oh, no! I don't want the steak! That's too much substance! I can't handle it! Just give me the sizzle, please. That thrills me right down to my socks!" 🙄

Not a fan. Let his fans buy the sizzle. But if you can't tell Frontline is biased as all get-out, you don't know what bias is. If I want the truth on Trump, I'll go to something a little less biased than PBS.

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its going to be awesome when Trump is President again, I hope he deports all the democraps to Ukraine.

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So you're hoping for a dictator. Interesting.

And you're one of those binary thinkers who believe if one isn't for Trump, one has to be a Democrat. I'm a conservative. I didn't agree with ALL of Trump's policies in the first three years, but his last year was straight out of the Democrat playbook. There are newbies to politics who don't know the difference between conservative and liberal, so they don't see anything wrong with what Trump did. Trump doesn't, either.

Did you get the clotshot, btw? Trump's whining that he didn't get enough credit for it. I gladly give him all the credit, as well as all the credit for all the excess deaths we don't hear about because the government is censoring the information...and will continue to do so if Trump gets elected. No Covid accountability if either of them get elected. That's why the MSM (Fox included) hardly covered DeSantis -- he wasn't bought and paid for by Pfizer. And who buys more time on news programs than anyone else? Pfizer. The news is bought and paid for, too.

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we already have a dictator, so having another wouldnt be a big deal.

I know things were better when Trump was President than now. this other guy is ruining america and now has us stuck in 2 wars and a possible 3rd. honestly, I dont know what would compel someone to vote for that other guy.

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At least our current dictator doesn't round people up and send them to foreign countries.

Oh! Did you hear that the same fellow who left the J6 prisoners in jail without a pardon on his way out is promising ever so faithfully to pardon them as one of his first acts if he gets elected again? Makes you wonder why he didn't pardon them on the way out, rather than leave them to rot for four years.

BTW, what makes you think I'd vote for the other guy? I live in a bluer than blue state. I'm going to vote down-ballot for the straight Republican ticket and hope what few get elected show more guts than the current crop of milquetoast Republicans. Biden's going to win this state no matter what I do, so I'd rather not vote for the lesser of two evils. I'd rather vote for a conservative.

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What have we learned from these replies? We have learned that JoWilli doesn't understand how deportation works, doesn't know what a 'dictator' is, and doesn't know what 'being in a war' is...It's an ignorant Trumptwat trifecta!

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at least I am not a Bidentwat, and I dont support Tyranny and Dictators.

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Props to you for calling out what a joke Frontline and PBS are.

The only political show worthwhile on PBS was The McLaughlin Group before he passed away.

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Do you have EVIDENCE that Frontline is biased?

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“Bill Moyers is a left-wing journalist best known for his various documentaries and specials on PBS. He also served as White House Press Secretary to President Lyndon B. Johnson. He also served as president of the Schumann Media Center, which funds left-wing projects.”

He also formerly served as a trustee to George Soros’ Open Society Foundations (formerly Open Society Institute). 1

Moyers is a producer of Frontline.

https://www.influencewatch.org/person/bill-moyers/

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He produced seven episodes over 25 years ago . . .

I do appreciate you offering some evidence, thanks for that.

However, being a producer on an educational program doesn't mean that you have the power to corrupt the facts. Frontline has had many many producers over the years and many, many of them have been Conservative.

It is the program that all investigative journalists respect and look up to. it has always been rated very close to unbiased which is incredibly difficult to do as you well know if you have looked up ANY News organization or program.

https://adfontesmedia.com/frontline-bias-and-reliability/

I don't ever want to listen to media that only tells me the part of the story that I agree with. It's so important to know what is really going on!

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I’ve been familiar with the political bias at Frontline and Bill Moyers for at least 25 years.

This is the first time I actually researched him.

PBS has always been leftwing. It’s like NPR.

Anything politically related is going to have bias. Especially today. Especially when the story involves Trump. Someone is paying for that program or documentary to be made.

The beauty today is we’ve all watched these incidents happen in real time:

The Russia collusion hoax.
The Charlottesville lie.
The J6 insurrection lie.

We have Trumps exact words and actions on video and on Twitter. We don’t need the Democrat media or establishment to tell us what to think. We watched it happen 1st hand.

The fact they think this so-called “special investigation” needs to be made confirms their agenda. Unless of course it’s exposing why 100s of FBI agents were there inciting violence. Or why Trumps calls for national guard security were ignored. Or why protestors were escorted into the capital peacefully.

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Where are you getting this information?

"The fact they think this so-called “special investigation” needs to be made confirms their agenda. Unless of course it’s exposing why 100s of FBI agents were there inciting violence. Or why Trumps calls for national guard security were ignored. Or why protestors were escorted into the capital peacefully."

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It’s all well documented. On video. In news. I appreciate your effort to understand basic reality, but at this point it’s obvious from your other posts, you’re not going to approach this subject honestly.

As soon as Bill Moyers was a confirmed paid Democrat operative, the conversation ended. There is no reason to hear anything Frontline has to say.

Unless you can cite where Kayleigh McEnany, Trumps press secretary, was also paid by PBS as a producer on Frontline.

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If you are approaching the subject honestly, where is your evidence?

What did you not understand about Bill Moyers not being involved with Frontline for over 25 years?

Why would a press secretary EVER be involved in investigative journalism?

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I loved the McLaughlin Group! I was there having to explain to my husband what they were watching on Independence Day.

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Yeah, sure. Frontline is biased because they state facts I guess. Do you have one example of them saying anything in that report that isn't a fact because I really would love to hear it.

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Bias is an interesting thing. I remember Goldwater talking about the bias against him, and for an example he described how CBS simply panned across the books in his library and stopped on one that had a provocative title. It was a fact that it was in his library. I have books in my library that I don't necessarily agree with, so you could pan across my books and pull the same stunt. It leaves a false impression.

That's what bias is.

As for examples, I cheered Frontline when I was a flaming liberal, because I agreed with everything they said. I liked their bias, then. "If you're not a liberal when you're young, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old, you have no brains." --Winston Churchill.

I no longer watch Frontline, but since you can't see the bias, I'm assuming the bias still leans left.

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Everything is biased, but you try to get your information as close to center as possible. I don't really care what Winston Churchill had to say. Churchill was a complex figure. He did good things and he did bad things. Neither washes away the other and he's not someone that I would quote as though it were gospel.

https://adfontesmedia.com/frontline-bias-and-reliability/

People are behaving as though it's some liberal rag when it's one of the best investigative journalism shows we have. That's not my opinion. What do you recommend listening to?

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I do wonder how old you are. Frontline didn't used to be so bad. Neither did 60 Minutes, for that matter. While we're at it, SNL used to take swipes at both sides. Now it's news that they'll actually satirize Biden. The old SNL would have had a field day with him from day one.

No one will ever see what they don't want to see, so you'll never see that Frontline slowly crept to the left, sometimes far left.

What do I recommend listening to? I get my news from a variety of sources on Twitter/X. In fact, that's the reason I went there. All these reporters from both sides of the aisle would finish their stories for their news outlets, and I could wait to watch them at the appointed network hour, or I could read them immediately on Twitter. It's fun. You can also watch people self-destruct in real time on the site. Just today, for example. And it was one of the once-respected reporters on the right. Everyone making excuses for them are seen as shills, as well.

It's fascinating that so many who were respected on both sides have proven themselves to be propaganda outlets for their Party. So you have to take everything you read or watch with a grain of salt.

Whoever starts reporting about "excess deaths" in America as other countries are around the world, THAT is someone I'll want to give a listen to...unless they're soft-pedaling it.

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they should probably investigate the chicanery Joe was complaining about before the election.

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After teh media reported Trump's "good people on both sides" comment as being about w.s., I have no interest in anything they have to say, especially about Trump.

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There’s nothing to investigate.

January 6th was a bake sale.

Trump had nothing to do with the fact Capital police killed an unarmed female veteran. The only person killed that day.

Trump had nothing to do with the protestors being peacefully escorted into the capital.

Trump had nothing to do with the fact that hundreds of FBI informants and agents were on the ground repeatedly trying to incite a riot and failing.

Trump had nothing to do with the lack of national guard troops whose presence he called for and was denied by Pelosi, the speaker of the house.

Everything mentioned is verified fact. Much of which can be viewed easily for anyone interested.

The Democrat rectum selectively editing Trumps words, and video of the day, does not change the fact that January 6th was a big nothing burger. Anyone entertaining the idea of it being a so-called “insurrection” is either being dishonest, an idiot, or your typical braindead Democrat lemming.

Democrat lemmings have repeatedly marched on the capital, the Supreme Court, and dozens of cities around the country killing people, destroying billions in property. J6 was one of the most peaceful marches in US history. A total nothing burger. Another dismal failure for the communist Democrat party and their corrupt FBI.

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⬆️ This 💯%

The leftoids can’t handle those facts. They prefer the convenient lies from the MSM.

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Roseanne Boyland. Say her name. The Capitol police beat her to death. There were TWO peaceful women killed that day.

There was some vandalism on J6, but nothing compared to the George Floyd riots. Anyone who walked out with anything or broke anything should have gotten handled the same way the George Floyd rioters did.

And the whole idea that a bunch of 2A supporters could possibly stage an insurrection without guns is preposterous.

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Exactly. And who left after 3 hours because they had to goto work the next day. Total insurrectionist behavior.

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what makes it an insurrection isnt the half assed execution, its the reason for the gathering.

The only reason the whole event happened was because Trump said
"Hey , I dont like the election result , lets pretend it was rigged and go down town and smash the place up in order to keep me in power as an unelected dictator."

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That is not what he said. And a protest to put political pressure on congress is part of the normal democratic process.

Your willingness to smear that, and those people, and Trump as "insurrectionists" simply for exercising their freedom to assemble and speech, is more of a threat to democracy than anything they did.

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Excellent summary 👏

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Leftists are such sticklers for details, specifics, literal points and other forms of semantics/fallacies when it's convenient and when it suits their narrative.

With that said; not that it matters since all those indictments and charges are bogus anyway, but if you really wanted to know exactly how and why those charges are bogus and have no standing, you should watch hours of a lawyer that breaks down all the indictments using all relevant legal documents for it.

The lawyer has his own commentaries on YT, Rumble, X and other platforms.

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Sure, lets watch a lawyer instead of facts. 🙄

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They are facts. He thoroughly goes through every detail of the charges using all pertinent legal documents.

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It says volumes that you would rather listen to a lawyer on YouTube rather than Frontline. Are you too scared to listen to it and be informed by someone who isn't trying to tell you what you want to hear for views?

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Biased Propaganda vs Legal Facts? LMAO 🤣

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"I don't understand it" = Fake News!
"I don't like it" = Fake News!
"It hurt my feelings" = Fake news!
"It's mean to Orange Master" = Fake News!
"It's truth and/or facts" = Fake News!

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That’s a cruel parody of the kind of stupid strawman shit a Leftist would post. Nice work 👏

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You are not from the US so why are you worshiping Trump? Why are you so ashamed to tell us where you live?

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Those strawman questions are a very strange response to my compliment 🤷🏻‍♂️

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its going to be hilarious when Trump wins....

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Prove that it's biased. I'll look at and consider your evidence. Trumps OWN lawyers have turned on him, that should tell you something.

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He's impossible. He doesn't follow lawyer's directions to keep his big, stupid mouth shut. Monday he's going to have to fork over $18 million. I'll bet he takes it from what should be his war chest. He never opens his own wallet if he can get others to pay for it.

But that $18 million should teach him to keep his stupid yap shut. Will it? Heck, no.

But that's why his own lawyers walk out on him. He won't take direction. That proves nothing. He's bull-headed and impossible. But he DID tell his supporters to protest PEACEFULLY on J6. After that "summer of love" where rioters burned, looted and killed people, The Great Mosey was hardly an "insurrection." 2A supporters stage an insurrection without guns? "That should tell you something." And yet Frontline undoubtedly called it an "insurrection" when it wasn't, and blamed the fellow who sent them off "PEACEFULLY" -- Trump stressed that -- was hardly inciting an insurrection. So all that's false.

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Do you know what all went on on January 6th because I sure didn't. I needed to be informed about all of the things that happened in order to make a decision or understand what happened. Where did you get your information about everything that went down? Comprehensive, investigative reporting is really difficult to get over bits and pieces of information.

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I did hear Trump tell the people to protest "PEACEFULLY." You didn't? If you didn't, you don't know the basic facts, let alone "what all went on."

I don't like Trump. I don't trust Trump. And rather than running against Biden, the idiot is STILL running against DeSantis. But he didn't incite an "insurrection," and it's hardly an "insurrection" when the people didn't come armed, and the only people killed were two unarmed women. If 2A supporters wanted to overthrow the government, the place would have been shot up. Even liberals ought to be able to figure that out.

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So what if Trump added a casual "peacefully" after telling people that they had to fight to take back the government? You know people are crazy and he kept telling them how wronged they were, enraging them.

They went in breaking windows carrying tactical gear and ziptie handcuffs. What did you think those were for?

None of that even matters because they are just small parts of the bigger picture which you need comprehensive journalism to know and understand. You don't have to agree with facts but you SHOULD know what they are.

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Will post video here: https://moviechat.org/tt31110416/Democracy-on-Trial
Village Idiots have taken over this thread!

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And yet, here you are.

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It's from Frontline and NOVA, both of which are funded by PBS who are clearly on the Left, so whatever perspective they had on this man, if you're liberal, you'll walk away thinking Predictably Trump is guilty

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Frontline isn't on the Left. Facts aren't left or right. Frontline has been reviewed by media bias checkers forever and it has always been rated reliable. Just because it says facts that you don't want to hear doesn't make it biased.

https://adfontesmedia.com/frontline-bias-and-reliability/

Prove that it's bias, I would love to see evidence of that.

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Frontline is on the Left and always has been and it's funded by PBS, which is also on the Left, so enough of this nonsense

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You can see it from outer space. Anyone who thinks Frontline ISN'T on the left is so far left that their own bias is blinding them. It's as if I said Fox News isn't biased on the right. Of COURSE they are. They will have genuine lefties on their shows, though. The other MSM networks will have folks like David French, who's ridiculed by conservatives, but they'll claim they're showing balance by having him on.

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Just because a show reports something that you don't want to hear doesn't make them unreliable. Frontline is about as close to middle as you are going to get when it comes to bias, is it more on the left than the right, a bit, a very little bit. That doesn't discount everything they do.

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I love how you stand firm here in your above post:

[–] RockAway (1236) 2 days ago

"Frontline isn't on the Left. Facts aren't left or right. Frontline has been reviewed by media bias checkers forever and it has always been rated reliable. Just because it says facts that you don't want to hear doesn't make it biased."

Then go on to say:

[–] RockAway (1236) 15 hours ago

Just because a show reports something that you don't want to hear doesn't make them unreliable. Frontline is about as close to middle as you are going to get when it comes to bias, is it more on the left than the right, a bit, a very little bit. That doesn't discount everything they do.

Frontline definitely leans more to the Left.. You could've avoided this by simply admitting it was true to begin with..

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Did you even go to the link? If you did, what I said would make sense.

It has a balanced bias, it's in the middle . . .that's an entire section. It's slightly left of center on the graph but it's still in the center category, not even close to the skews Left section.

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Which is the PBS program that pulled the plug on a show because it was going to offend the Koch brothers?

Oh, yeah I remember:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/citizen-koch-documentary_n_3727038

PBS ain't what it used to be. Maybe it never was.

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In conservative circles, the Koch brothers are considered RINOs.

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