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His social status as one of the most successful and famous businessmen is what drives his supporters


If you want to know why many people that fawn over him, so much to the point that they defend everything he does, then that's your answer. It doesn't matter if he does something that others may see as wrong or stupid, his gungho supporters WANT to be him. They admire him and respect him for the supposedly awesome businessman and political figure he is. He is basically the real life counterpart to Gordon Gekko from Wall Street.

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So what exactly do the other guys do to drive supporters on the other side? And you're not allowed to quote anything from the mainstream news, by the way. You gotta find something that they have that makes people vote for Democrats, and it can't involve any propaganda being taught to them by the tv or social media.

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Sometimes the Democrats come out as pro-gun. The Obama administration removed one of the most common obstacles for individuals to own/transfer NFA firearms such as machine guns and silencers.

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2016-01-15/pdf/2016-00192.pdf

Prior to 2016, the most common complaint I read online was the refusal for the local sheriff to sign the tax stamp application to make or transfer these kinds of firearms. Since the CLEO signature requirement was eliminated, things have improved. The local sheriff is no longer allowed to deny a person's right to keep and bear arms anymore.

Another time the Obama administration refused to ban bump stocks. https://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/atf-rulings-on-bump-stocks/ Bush banned spring loaded bump stocks in 2006. Obama refused to ban other kinds of bump stocks while president even though he tried and failed to have his own assault weapons ban. Trump banned bump stocks in 2018 after a single ass shooting.

See the trend here? It is the GOP that are climbing on the gun grab train. Biden is still a gun grabber though, he ordered the confiscation of forced reset triggers in 2022.

Obama got the ACA passed which prohibited a person's medical history being used to deny them coverage for health care. It turns out that Americans like to be able to get health care without going bankrupt. This was a huge deal to those Americans who are chronically ill.

Trump promised to replace the ACA with something better. He did not. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/10/14/768731628/trump-is-trying-hard-to-thwart-obamacare-hows-that-going

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I thought we were discussing Trump's Ego and his cult supporters, not politics.

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Aren't they one and the same by now? And frankly, one reason people like him is that he's actually bold enough to say things that everyone's been thinking for years, but nobody in power dared say before. He's one of the only people fighting for us while the Uniparty craps all over us peasants and sells America down the river to China and our other enemies. They forgot that they are there to serve US, not the other way around.

Yeah, I didn't vote for a saint. I voted for a warrior that is ugly, overweight, crude, crass, has a troubled marriage history, hasn't always been successful in his business endeavors, but he knows what the American people really want. If someone hits him, he hits back twice as hard, and that's unheard of among Republicans, because most of them are just controlled opposition that cave the moment they get attacked by the Left. He doesn't. The fact that he got more done in 4 years than your average politician says a lot about the establishment; that they were bullshitting us this entire time and don't want things to change so long as it benefits them at the expense of Americans. It's particularly telling that he refused a salary while working as president, whereas Obama became a millionaire on a 400K a year salary.

Speaking of which, we don't worship him like a cult. Most of us don't even think about Trump unless someone brings him up in conversation or there's a news story. However, the way we watched you guys worship Obama in the news and online was horrendously disgusting. I'm amazed all the major news organizations didn't build gold statues of him in their HQ's and kiss it on the ass for good luck every day. You all acted like he was the Messiah, complete with magazine covers giving him a "halo." So who is the real cultist here?

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100%.Thanks 🙏

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Can you explain more about "His social status as one of the most successful and famous businessmen"?

Trump bankrupted his casinos, the Taj Mahal in 1991, Trump Castle Hotel & Casino and the Trump Plaza Casino in 1992. People literally go to a casino to throw money at games legally rigged against them winning much at all. But he drove them into the ground anyway.

Trump Entertainment Resorts went bankrupt in 2009. Trump Shuttle, Trump Vodka, Trump Mortgage, GoTrump.com and Trump Steaks all failed. His name sucks even when others are running the business for him.

Trump likes to keep himself liquid and able to obtain loans/financing by over valuing his properties. Then at the same time he claims his property is worth much less for tax purposes. Might be a good way to make money, but it also happens to be illegal and our two tiered justice system has allowed him to get way with this for decades.



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The fact that everyone talks about Trump proves his social status. He is the best and the best President.

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The best criminal President.., that’s for sure

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Sure, so many people like Trump.

Except for the women he raped?
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/list-trumps-accusers-allegations-sexual-misconduct/story?id=51956410
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37595321

Or the people he wrongfully accused of assault?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/donald-trump-says-central-park-five-are-guilty-despite-dna-n661941

Or the gun owners he screwed over?
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-12-26/pdf/2018-27763.pdf

Or perhaps some of his family members?
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/donald-trump-medical-benefits-nephews-infant-child/

I'm not very certain that former PWO's like that fact that he does not like them.
https://time.com/3963612/donald-trump-john-mccain-military-service/

I think the Taliban love Trump though.
https://time.com/5794643/trumps-disgraceful-peace-deal-taliban/

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You are still talking about Trump which is my point. No one talks about that other guy even though supposedly 81 million people voted for him.

Tell me more about President Trump and how he ruined your life.

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Trump is screwing over my fellow Americans; see my post above.

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Trump hasn't been President in 3 years. Why are you still blaming him?

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Some of Trump's stupid decisions are still in effect today. Trump's executive decisions did not cease to exist when he was voted out of office. Almost everyone else understands this, why don't you?

Did you really think Biden would change all of the stupid decisions Trump made? I sure as hell did not.

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Please list all of Trumps EO's that still exist today and how they are affecting America.

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Look here; https://www.federalregister.gov/presidential-documents/executive-orders

The EO's no longer in force have notes saying they were amended or revoked by another EO or law. You can decide how the existing Trump EO's that are still in affect, are affecting the USA. If I offer an opinion on the matter, I think you will just disagree with me.

This stuff is so easy to figure out. Why are you trying so hard to appear ignorant?

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Joseph R. Biden Jr. issued 127 executive orders between 2021 and 2023.

Which ones cancelled Trumps EO's?

You didn't explain how Trumps EO's orders are affecting America today.

Why doesn't Joe just BBB like he promised? He has one year left.

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If you read the ones Trump enacted, it will tell you which ones are still in force. How is that so hard to understand.

Why should I explain why or how Trump's EO's are affecting us today when you will just disagree with me. You can't even follow basic instructions on how to determine which of Trump's EO's are still in affect when I tell you how to do so.

You should be able to figure this stuff out on your own, but you're begging for help and you can;t even understand basic suggestions.

Biden is a buffoon, why are you expecting him to accomplish anything? Since when are you a Biden fan?

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"Some of Trump's stupid decisions are still in effect today."

So you cant explain anything because nothing Trump signed had a negative effect on Americans.

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[–] Bubbathegut (16290) 2 hours ago
You are still talking about Trump which is my point. No one talks about that other guy even though supposedly 81 million people voted for him.
DJT was and is an "Empty Vessel which is why he needs to constantly talk about his many, many non-accomplishments and or denigrate others in a vain and silly attempt to make himself look good or larger than life.

DJT wanted credit for what others accomplished and for just doing his job.Tell me more about President Trump and how he ruined your life.That's a question for the Trump-Children-Crime-Family to answer. Aren't three of them standing in the bright light of justice for their day of accountability?

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Mr. Gut.....I really do appreciate your loyalty to Trump but you truly have been "taken" by this guy. He doesn't give a shit about you or anyone other than himself. Sorry to break it to you but that is the honest truth.

Biden is no prize and I get that. I did not support Biden and never will. I won't ever support Trump either. I voted for Trump in 2016 and wish I could take back my vote.

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I am not a fan of his antics or outbursts. But if I am given a choice between a Giant Douche or Turd Sandwich, I am going to choose the Turd Sandwich. Maybe he cares or doesn't care, I will still vote for him next year.

Thats the conundrum we are given. More than likely its going to be Biden and Trump again. People hate Trump so much that they will vote for Biden. As I recall, the 3 of the 4 years under Trump were great. People might not like his personality but he did get stuff done even though he was under attack by the dems for the entire 4 years.

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You are a fan of Trump's anti-gun agenda. You defend it by saying it does not exist.

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What anti-gun agenda?

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This one.
Take the guns 1st. 45 minute point.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?441884-1/white-house-meeting-community-school-safety
Trump gun grab. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-12-26/pdf/2018-27763.pdf
Title 27 Chapter II Subchapter B Part 478. https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-27/chapter-II/subchapter-B/part-478
Trump says he will ban bump stocks. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-administration-to-ban-bump-stocks-all-devices-that-turn-legal-weapons-into-machine-guns

The one you have denying exists for years.

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Trump wants to get rid of gun free zones. How is that a gun grab?

A bump stock is not a gun.

A bump stock is not a gun.

https://jpfo.org/articles-2023/supreme-court-will-rule.htm

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Trump says bump stocks are guns. Why are you calling Trump a liar?

Your own link does not agree with you at all.

The Trump administration's ban on bump stocks was an about-face for the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. In 2010, under the Obama administration, the agency found that a bump stock should not be classified as a machine gun and therefore should not be banned under federal law.


Obama said bump stocks are not guns, Trump (about-face) said bump stocks are guns.

Why can't you find a link that supports your stupid claim that Trump did not classify bump stocks as contraband machine guns? You can't because it doesn't exist.

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This one.
Take the guns 1st. 45 minute point.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?441884-1/white-house-meeting-community-school-safety

At the 45 minute mark, Trump is talking about getting rid of gun free zones. You literally just pwned yourself. Maybe you should start taking Neuriva.

SCOTUS to Rule on Gun Bump
Stocks, Used in Vegas Mass Murder

Are you for or against mass murders by bump stocks?

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Yeah, Trump said something. Trump did not actually do anything. How is it you don't understand the difference?

I am against mass murder of course. Why do you think banning bump stocks could have saved anyone?

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Hasn't been a bump stock mass murder since they were banned. Thank you President Trump for saving lives.

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So you think the bump stocks were the reason for the mass murder? No one else, as far as I know, thinks the bump stocks were the reason for the number of deaths.

You think that Paddock was unable to bump fire without a bump stock? You think he was unable to modify an ar-15 to shoot full auto? You think he could not afford to buy legal machine guns for this mass shooting?

Some people like to claim that the reason Australia has had a much lower mass murder rate is due to their gun confiscation program. Sounds like you want the same thing in the USA.

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You have a link that say Trump ever made any kind of attempt at eliminating gun free zones? Trump wants lots of things. He actually acts on his desires rarely.

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45 minute point.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?441884-1/white-house-meeting-community-school-safety

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Yeah, Trump said something. Trump did not actually do anything. How is it you don't understand the difference?

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This one.
Take the guns 1st. 45 minute point.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?441884-1/white-house-meeting-community-school-safety

Why would Trump take the guns? Bruh, this is too easy.

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Trump says he wants to take the guns from people who are violent. But do it prior to any due process.

Without due process, how do you determine that someone should have their guns taken away? Can I just claim my neighbor is a threat and take his guns? Is that how you want it to work?

The usual red flag laws require that a judge issue an order to confiscate the guns after listening to people give sworn statements. This is due process, something Trump objects to.

What part of "take the guns 1st, due process 2nd" did you not understand? Do you think anyone is actually going to get due process after their guns are taken away?

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Our support of Trump is POLITICALLY. We hope that he repays that support with policies that serve our interests.


When you talk about whether or not he "gives a shit about us", you are misunderstanding what we consider political support to mean.


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How is Trump's anti-gun agenda serving your interests? Do you hope his "take the guns 1st" insanity becomes federal law someday? Would you approve of Trump's anti-gun agenda if Biden was the one enacting it?

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No anti-gun policies serve my interests. But any attempt to slow the flow of illegals or to advance the US position on trade, does. Trump is a far better candidate for that, than anyone on the left, and the vast majority of those on teh right.

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They want to be the kind of guy who sexually assaults women as a perk of wealth. They want to say they take no responsibility at all. They want to lie about their worth to banks for loans and lie again when it comes to valuation for tax purposes. They want to hate soldiers who were captured. And on and on.

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Yes.....let's visit that again about soldiers being captured. Trump has absolutely no appreciation or regard for our military. They put their lives on the line for us every day and Trump could care less.

I was so dismayed about Trump when he claimed he does not like military men who are captured. He was referring to John McCaine who was shot down into enemy territory.

Let's not forget that Trump's daddy had one of his doctor friends compose a letter to the government stating that his dear son Donny had bone spurs so he would not be drafted. Trump's daddy admitted to that on his death bed.

Trump is the real deal......a true piece of shit.

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They want to BE him? Then why do they keep posting that awful "art" that shows Trump as a 28-year-old body builder with a 40 year-old face? They adore a Trump that doesn't exist.

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I'd say that those who dislike or have mixed feelings about him don't have the greatest impact.

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Seriously? Donald Trump is a pariah in business. Here.....read about it.. Over 4,000 law suits. Why would anyone want to emulate that?
https://www.azcentral.com/pages/interactives/trump-lawsuits/

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His social status as one of the most successful and famous businessmen is what drives his supporters
posted 3 days ago by Patman111196 (1015)
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They admire him and respect him for the supposedly awesome businessman and political figure he is. He is basically the real life counterpart to Gordon Gekko from Wall Street.
That was a movie. The following is DJT in real life.

Puffery:
Exaggeration of fact bordering on falsehood:

The definition of puffing in real estate, also known as puffering, is an exaggeration of fact bordering on falsehood.


You’ve probably heard a real estate agent make outrageous claims about their listing, lauding its outstanding qualities, only to find that the “outstanding” listing is not all that outstanding. That is and has always been, DJT.
Perhaps Trump is trying to deliberately undermine his case so that he has grounds for appeal? Can he just make himself look guilty in court then claim he was stupid? Can he ask for a "do over" after this trial is over based upon his "falling on his sword" in court. Does that really work?
In Real Estate this is the common everyday legit Ponzi Scheme that Bankers, Appraisers, Underwriters, Investors, Builders, Contractors, Urban Planners, Zoning Ordinances, all benefit from this scheme at the expense of the Buyer, Caveat Empetor. Reality hits when no one is willing to buy or sell based on the inflated outrageous listing. The buyer ofttimes though is STUCK with an overpriced, over leveraged, parcel of land. Someone declares bankruptcy and so allegedly there is no harm, no foul. But au contraire, someone sucked money out of the scheme.

In politics voting Americans were not STUCK with DJT and his Political Puffery. He was summarily fired for his unaccountability. For his Civil Fraud trial in a Court-of-Law his Financial Puffery now becomes a bounced cheque that he will be forced to eat as well as pay back. DJT's Constitutional Puffery criminal actions in a Coup attempt to create an Imperial Presidency? Well let's just say the J6 Choir will have a new vocal coach. 🗽🗽👍

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Donald Trump’s façade as the racist, less intelligent, classless, morally bankrupt antithesis to Barack Obama is what drives his most hardcore supporters.

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"Fawn"? I recognize the fact that life was less expensive, safer, and generally better when he was president. In comparison, it sucks now. I wouldn't mind if it went back to the way it was in 2019. I don't give a flying F about his social status, fame, or wealth.

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