MovieChat Forums > Donald Trump Discussion > Trump alleges Pelosi turned down 10,000 ...

Trump alleges Pelosi turned down 10,000 soldiers ahead of Capitol riot: 'She’s responsible for Jan. 6'


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-alleges-pelosi-turned-down-10000-soldiers-capitol-riot-responsible-jan-6

He's right.. She had the Power to do this and turned it down and as a result, she really is the one responsible for the Jan 6th gathering at the Capitol protesting an 80 Year old claiming he got 81 Million votes.. Hell, even Obama laughed at that when he was told this..

reply

Yes, he did call for those 10K soldiers, but Pelosi and her accomplices didn’t want their well-orchestrated plans to be interrupted.

They knew that it was all about optics.

The J6 Committee also destroyed exculpatory evidence.

reply

Trump claims those were his plans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-says-it-was-my-decision-to-attempt-to-overturn-the-2020-election-and-insists-he-wasn-t-acting-based-on-lawyer-advice/ar-AA1gR1n2
https://www.cbsnews.com/texas/news/trump-says-it-was-my-decision-to-try-to-overturn-2020-election-results/

Former President Donald Trump said that he received counsel from numerous people shortly after the 2020 election but that it was his decision to push the false claim he won the presidency and try to overturn the results.

reply

Left-wing propaganda? lol. 🤣🤡


https://www.allsides.com/news-source/msnbc

reply

Unless you're claiming Trump was misquoted, then why does it matter who report on the facts as long as they got their facts right?

Are you claiming Trump did not say those words?

reply

Trumpers only understand MAGA and "grab them by the pussy". Everything else is like quantum physics to them.

reply

And TDS imbeciles only understand orangeman baaaaad.

reply

Trump is claiming that he was responsible for the actions during the Capitol Riot. Are you really calling him a liar? You are not going to stand by your man? Are you going to be like some of those who were put on trial for various crimes and stabbed Trump in the back?

reply

https://i.postimg.cc/CMBB6cQb/Trump-Derangement-Syndrome.jpg

▀▀█▀▀ █▀▀█ █░░█ █▀▄▀█ █▀▀█  
░▒█░░ █▄▄▀ █░░█ █░▀░█ █░░█  
░▒█░░ ▀░▀▀ ░▀▀▀ ▀░░░▀ █▀▀▀  

▒█▀▀▄ █▀▀ █▀▀█ █▀▀█ █▀▀▄ █▀▀▀ █▀▀ █▀▄▀█ █▀▀ █▀▀▄ ▀▀█▀▀  
▒█░▒█ █▀▀ █▄▄▀ █▄▄█ █░░█ █░▀█ █▀▀ █░▀░█ █▀▀ █░░█ ░░█░░  
▒█▄▄▀ ▀▀▀ ▀░▀▀ ▀░░▀ ▀░░▀ ▀▀▀▀ ▀▀▀ ▀░░░▀ ▀▀▀ ▀░░▀ ░░▀░░  

▒█▀▀▀█ █░░█ █▀▀▄ █▀▀▄ █▀▀█ █▀▀█ █▀▄▀█ █▀▀
░▀▀▀▄▄ █▄▄█ █░░█ █░░█ █▄▄▀ █░░█ █░▀░█ █▀▀
▒█▄▄▄█ ▄▄▄█ ▀░░▀ ▀▀▀░ ▀░▀▀ ▀▀▀▀ ▀░░░▀ ▀▀▀

reply

You scream TDS every time you losers run out of excuses for Trump's poor behavior. I can't wait to see what you goobers come up with when the orange shitgibbon is convicted for treason.

reply

Yeah, I think I heard you the first time you said that.

Everyone knows that is the best retort in your arsenal when you run out of facts and logic (not that you had any to begin with) to support your arguments.



reply

“Everyone knows that is the best retort in your arsenal”

…For obsessed anti-Trump leftists.

when you run out of facts and logic

Leftists with TDS never have facts and logic.

support your arguments.

It is illogical to argue with leftists imbeciles that constantly lie.

reply

But none of your arguments on this forum on any topic make any sense at all.

I'm not a leftist. I'm far more conservative than Trump.

reply

So, Trump cannot count on your support?

reply


▀▀█▀▀ █▀▀█ █░░█ █▀▄▀█ █▀▀█   █▀█ █▀▀█ █▀█ ░█▀█░
░░█░░ █▄▄▀ █░░█ █░▀░█ █░░█   ░▄▀ █▄▀█ ░▄▀ █▄▄█▄
░░▀░░ ▀░▀▀ ░▀▀▀ ▀░░░▀ █▀▀▀   █▄▄ █▄▄█ █▄▄ ░░░█░
🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
█▀▄▀█ █▀▀█ █▀▀▀ █▀▀█
█░▀░█ █▄▄█ █░▀█ █▄▄█
▀░░░▀ ▀░░▀ ▀▀▀▀ ▀░░▀

reply

I guess not. Posting MAGA on Movie Chat is worth nothing.

reply

Words from TDS leftists imbeciles that constantly lie on Movie Chat are worth nothing.

reply

I am neither of those.

reply

At least you can post MAGA here without getting banned over it.. Do that at any of the other movie websites and you're finished

reply

That's because most Americans hate you stupid Trump supporters. Trump will never be president again so you morons can slink back to your trailer parks. You won't be missed.

reply

If I had a dollar for every time you said this today, I would be rich

reply

Really? Post everything where I said that today. Otherwise you are just stupid and a coward.

reply

I value my time more than having to go through a 1000 posts of yours today(and that's being kind) just to prove a point.. You're obsessed with Trump and obsessed with anyone who would vote for him in 2024, provided he's the nominee when the time comes.. I have a sneaking suspicion a 3rd Party Candidate will run, someone like Gavin Newsom

reply

So you made another claim that you cannot back up and instead you replied with bullshit. That's what you do because you're stupid. I asked you to prove that I made certain comments today and you replied with your usual nonsense. I bet your family is embarrassed of you.

Why are you complaining about my post count? I've been here since the beginning so my daily post count is quite low. You on the other hand have been here for just one month with over 560 posts. Apparently you have nothing else to do but worship Trump.

reply

I merely did what you did: Replied with Bullshit.. I mean, you do lead by example around here now don't you??

reply

565 posts in one month means you make over 18 comments a day. It must be uncomfortable for you to watch Trump going down.

reply

See?? There you go again.. Saying Trump is going down just 1 more time today!! LOL!!

reply

Okay... Show all the rest of the times I claimed this today. Otherwise you are just another stupid Trump supporter.

It's sad that there is still a minority who worships Trump like you do.

reply

This was nice...! Thanks for easily showing the retarded nature of these fucking wombats.

I lol'd.

reply

“Show all the rest of the times I claimed this today.”

We both know that you are a broken record with the same repetitive anti-Trump slogans.

I called you out about it months ago and suggested that you change it up because it was getting old and boring.

reply

I'm just waiting for the proof you claim to have that the 2020 election was stolen. Not one single Trump supporter here has provided any evidence of a rigged election. Why is that?

reply

Examples? What do you gain by posting MAGA?

reply

fake news

reply

So is there some law or regulation that makes the Speak of the House responsible for Capitol security and gives them the power to call our soldiers for that purpose? Everything I've read says that is the Capitol police that has that responsibility.

It was Trump supporters who proudly rioted at the capitol. Some of them said they were responding to Trump's call. So why are we not blaming the perps for the trouble?

So Trump makes a claim and we are supposed to be stupid enough to believe it? I don't think so. Is there any evidence at all that indicates Pelosi turned down the assistance of soldiers that day?

reply

You really think some city COPS have the responsibility to call for military troops for back up? You really think that is the person making the call?

LOL. What a load of shit.

reply

What is a load of crap is people making claims they have no reason to believe are true and expecting the people reading their claims to be stupid enough to believe them.

What reason do you have to believe that there are any laws, rules or regulations that put the Speaker of the House in control of the National Guard? The load of shit are your claims that you're unwilling to support with evidence. Going to man up?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-alleges-pelosi-turned-down-10000-soldiers-capitol-riot-responsible-jan-6
So you believe Trump when he says he was too chicken-sh*t to call for re-enforcements himself?

The Capitol Police are not just "city cops" as you would have us believe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_Police

reply

From your link.

"The Capitol Police Board is the body that governs the United States Capitol Police. It was established in 1873,[20] and today consists of three voting members: the Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives, the Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate, and the Architect of the Capitol. Additionally, the chief of the Capitol Police serves ex officio as a non-voting member.[21] The chairmanship of the board alternates annually between the House and Senate Sergeants at Arms."


Sounds like the chain of command, goes up though the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH, not the executive.


No way that this nation would have POLICE officers be the ones that make the call that they need military troops to back them up. Only someone with zero understanding of this country would think that.

reply

Back up to the part where all of these conspiracy wacktards are claiming that Pelosi refused to allow soldiers to assist at the riot. Are you going to address that claim or just assume it is true by letting it slide without comment? Are you going to side with the idiots or at least show us you have half a brain?

So where is the Speaker of the House in all of this?

If you recall, you responded to my claim "So is there some law or regulation that makes the Speak of the House responsible for Capitol security and gives them the power to call our soldiers for that purpose?"

with

[–] Corbell (4443) an hour ago

You really think some city COPS have the responsibility to call for military troops for back up? You really think that is the person making the call?


I think you're a sheep who only posts to make noise and will not take a firm stand on what the law actually says.

reply

From the excertp I posted from YOUR link,

"the Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives,",

You are acting like it is crazy to think that the woman in charge of the house of represenatives, would have authority over an officer of hte house of representatives.


And forgive me for not having a detailed knowledge of the laws governing how the Capitol police is run. And by "forgive me" I mean go fuck yourself.


Trump made the offer, it was turned down. This raises two important questions.


1. If Trump was really planning a "coup" as so many lefty conspiracy nuts claim, why did he make the offer?

2. Why the fuck was the offer refused?




reply

How is the Sgt at Arms being associated with the House, some sort of proof that Pelosi turned down soldiers as claimed in the original post? It is not.

Do you believe every single stupid thing Trump says? I think you do.

You're claiming that an offer was made, and the offer was refused. What proof do you have for either?

reply

Standard lib tactic, pretending to forget their own argument.


Recall, dumbass, that your position is that Trump's claim that Pelosi turned down the 10k soldiers made no sense, because the Capitol Police would make that call, and Pelosi as Speaker of the House had no connection or authority over them.

But now we see that that is not true. The Capitol police report up to the House, of which Pelosi is in charge.

NOw, when they are discussing shit like, fixing a parking ticket for some high level asshole, i am sure that the Sargent might make that call himself, but something like 10k military forces as backup? That goes to the top, ,and in this chain of command, that would be Pelosi.


Thus, we see that your argument against Trump, is completely false, and amusingly we see it proved by your own link.


If you had an ouch of shame or human decency, this is where you would admit that you were wrong. And aplogize for what a shit you were about it.

But, then you wouldn't be a lefty in the first place, so I await your bizarre otherworldly explanation as to why this does NOT blow your false position completely to shreds.


reply

Any time a Liberal is wrong about something or can't answer the question, they deflect with the bullshit name calling.. I mean, the obsession with this 1 man in Donald Trump is something to behold, that this man could get this many liberals worked up simply can't be healthy when it comes to their sanity??

reply

Let's get back to the fact that you have no evidence to back up your claim. Can you show me any rule or regulation that says the Speaker makes that kind of call on soldiers?

Why are you hurling insults and demanding apologies instead of proving evidence to back up your claims? Are you that empty inside?

reply

1. You want "proof" of a verbal offer between Trump and Pelosi? LOL.

2. The Speaker is in charge of the House.

3. Dude. You've been rude as fuck. That bit where you can dish it out but whine like a fag when you get some back? Keep doing that, it lets people know to laugh at you.

reply

You make a claim, you prove it. Your insults are not proof.

Bring in charge of the House does not mean being in charge of the soldiers that can be called upon in an emergency. Where is the proof to support your claims?

I don't care if you think I'm rude. I'm just saying your insults are not an effective way of convincing anyone with a brain that you are correct.

reply

Only a dishonest asshole would demand "proof" of a discussion.

LOL.

My being rude to you is not about convincing anyone, but about treating you with the level of respect you have earned.

reply

No. If you make a claim, then be prepared to prove it. Why should anyone hesitate to demand prove of any claim that is ever made?

Surely you have some reason to believe a discussion has taken place other than your over active imagination?

reply

Only a dishonest ass would demand "proof" of a discussion.


I do have reason to believe that the discussion took place. Pelosi's defense was that the offer was not formally made. That is an implicit admission that it was informally made.


reply

You will only get the following from Ranb:

1. Lies.
2. Off-topic questions as deflections.
3. Make 'presumptions' and 'opinions' for you.
4. Internet scriptures.
5. No counter arguments.

reply

The worst part is, in that he is a fine representative of libtards as a general group.

reply

The same reason to believe that the Earth is flat, the British royal family are lizard people and the moon landings were fake?

The thing is, you make up crap you have no rational reasons to believe is true, then get all kinds of upset if people on the forum don't swallow your crap hook line and sinker while patting you on the back the entire time.

You are one of those delicate flowers who shoots off their mouth from the relative security of the internet without any repercussions.

You should try getting out in the real world to make a difference some day. You are not doing anything at here.

reply

Why did Pelosi state that the offer was not FORMALLY made?




reply

I did not hear or see her saying this. Got a link? I understand that Trump claims she said something, but you're not stupid enough to actually believe anything Trump says that is not actually confirmed, are you?

Trump has repeated bragged about how he can do anything he wants as president. Trump could have, in his position as commander in Chief, ordered soldiers to the Capitol to secure it while the electoral vote was counted. It seems that Trump decided a riot that disrupted the vote counts was what he needed.

reply

From YOUR link.

"She says that that request was never officially made," Welker, who newly took over the NBC program from former host Chuck Todd, interjected.


That fits nicely with Trump's statement. He makes the verbal offer, she blows him off, then she covers her ass saying it was not "officially made".


Note, she didn't DENY what he said. She used weasel words. If she could have just called him a LIAR, she would have been happy to do so.


He seems that Trump really offered to give them 10k troops, just like he said.

Which makes NO sense, if he was planning a riot to disrupt the vote count.


reply

So what? Millions of Americans watched live on TV exactly what happened on Jan 6th. Your orange master will be convicted for his treason. Go ahead, show your stupidity defending Trump.

reply

400 riots by you leftards with dozens dead, and you whine like a fag over hte ONE right leaning right.

Gof fuck yourself.

reply

Haha! Triggered you. You are such a fragile snowflake! Cry more, Goober. 😭 Do you know that most Americans hate you and your ilk? You support Trump who is facing 91 felony charges mostly for being a traitor. Trump's time is over. So is yours.

I don't feel like going back and forth with your stupidity so I will let you get the last word in. Make it good!

reply

You being rude to me, and me being rude back to you, is not "triggered", it is me treating a rude asshole like he deserves.

It is worth nothing though, that leftards like you, only act like this online. I've never met a lefty as rude in person as they are online.

That is because people like you, are pussies.

reply

wow, we should be outraged

reply

Outraged about another Trump lie?

reply

hope the trial will be televised and bring a lot fascist democrats down

reply

Why do you worship Trump? He is facing 91 felony charges mostly for being a traitor. You claim to be a patriot so why do you still support Trump. I hope you will be okay when Trump is convicted for his crimes against America.

reply

Why did Trump call for 10,000 soldiers to keep his non violent walk in the park picnic tour in order ?

reply

Because, oh idiot, he saw what happened. Stay focused, libtard.

reply

wtf you talking about?

by the time anyone is seeing what happened its too late

reply

By using the most shittiest libturds' strategy you just want to distract from Pelosi's failures. And yes, genius, you need some action first to react.

reply

From the article , the ramblings on an egomaniac with the brain of a toddler :


"Nancy Pelosi was in charge of security. She turned down 10,000 soldiers. If she didn’t turn down the soldiers, you wouldn’t have had Jan. 6," Trump told NBC’s "Meet the Press" host Kristen Welker during a recent sit-down interview at Trump's golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey.

Trump declined to answer if he called military or law enforcement that day, saying, "I behaved so well, I did such a good job, Nancy Pelosi turned down 10,000 soldiers … if she didn’t do that …" Welker challenged Trump that Pelosi did not have the authority he had as commander in chief.

"I understand that the police testified against her, the chief very strongly against her, the Capitol police, great people," Trump said in the interview aired Sunday. "They testified against her, and they burned all the evidence. OK? They burned all the evidence. They destroyed all the evidence about Nancy Pelosi."

reply

Even more reality-according-to-Trump

"Mr. President, you have authority as commander in chief that no one else has. Do you think you showed leadership on that day?" Welker asked Sunday. Trump said, "Yes, absolutely, I did."

Trump insisted he could have pardoned himself before leaving office to avoid "fake charges" and "Biden indictments" he’s facing now, but "that’s the last thing I would have done."

"They want to arrest their political opponents. Only third-world countries do that, banana republics," Trump said. "I was given the option. I could have done a pardon of myself. You know what I said? ‘I have no interest.’"



The fucking idiot cant help bragging about his percieved golden ticket , his get out of jail free card.
He thinks as president he can pardon himself for anything.
We're lucky he didnt take that "shoot someone on 5th ave" example to its conclusion , and then pardon himself for it.

reply

that "shoot someone on 5th ave" example



One of the very few true statements he ever made as candidate or POTUS...

reply

The fucking idiot...
It must hurt you to be just an idiot, and not a fucking one...

reply

It must hurt you that Lord Trump didnt play his magic "I'm The Prez" card and pardon himself of all wrongdoings while he had the chance eh?
I wonder why he didnt do that?
After all he's bragging that he could have done.
Smart business man like him? it'd be a no brainer.

reply

If only Pelosi would have responded with more security we could have prevented the worst attack on ourdemocracy™️ since the meteor killed the dinasuaros.

reply

So the commander in chief of the entire military and federal law enforcement is not responsible for an attempted coup to keep him in power, but rather the leader of 1/4 of the legislative branch?

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAH!!!! TRUMP DRONES WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

By the way, even if this were true, it doesn't exonerate your king.

reply

Trump was right.. Sorry but he was and if he did in fact suggest this to Pelosi and I believe he did and she turned his request down because she simply can't stand him?? The all of this really is on her.. It is

reply

maybe there should be some sort of investigation....

reply