Four years of -- Trump is illegitimate, Trump colluded with Russia, Trump rigged the election, the Comey investigation, Trump is not the president = not incitement to riot.
One tweet saying 'let's fight them' = oh my God, this is incitement to riot. We must impeach him.
How are you Yanks not noticing any of this?
You only see what you want to see goes both ways.
share[–] RockAway (716) 3 minutes agoNot true, RockAway. Simply, Not True. That False Equivalency is what allows Chaos agents to erode your understanding of Truths and Facts by sowing doubts.
You only see what you want to see goes both ways.
I absolutely believe in facts.
I know that people see things the way they want them to be. Have you listened to Trump's phone call to the Governor of Georgia?
Are you going to claim that he wasn't threatening that man?
Yes, DJT threatened Brad.
Additionally, DJT had a pressure campaign and a series of other actions to attempt a Coup and to prevent the Transfer of Power because he was a sore loser and every bit a liar.
DA Fani Willis will present in court Facts and "Evidence" and not opinions or Points of Views.
The formula isn't that, well "Both Sides see what they want to see".
The way it works is a Rule Of Law, Due Process, and Blind Justice. One side broke laws = the other side holding that to account.
The United States of America
v.
Donald John Trump
The other side can willfully interpret, distort, and judge the call any way that they want in the Court-Of-Public Opinion but that debate is truly meaningless.
I can't wait to finally hear some facts and evidence in this case. It's going to be refreshing.
shareIf you believed in facts, why didn’t you answer my question about how you know basic facts? After all, we only see things in black-and-white.
share“One tweet saying 'let's fight them' = oh my God, this is incitement to riot. We must impeach him.”
Meanwhile, crickets regarding the rioters from the BLM riots. Not only were they way worse than January 6, but the Democrats had been encouraging them for months.
And letting them off from serious crimes, like arson, assault, theft etc..
But an unsanctioned tour of the Capitol was the end of "democracy". Leftists are the worst shits..
Around 14,000 people were arrested for rioting at the time of BLM protests.
As of August 2021 (I can't find updated facts):
- there were 300 federal indictments
- 120 had pleaded guilty or were convicted at trial - the rest were still awaiting trial.
- the 70 who had been already sentenced received an average of 27 months in prison
- 10 had been sentenced to 5 years or more
Of note, of those who got off lightly, one particular youth who murdered two protestors and maimed another in Kenosha Wisconsin was acquitted at trial.
https://apnews.com/article/records-rebut-claims-jan-6-rioters-55adf4d46aff57b91af2fdd3345dace8
I’m sure some were arrested and even charged. But you won’t hear about it in the media.
shareAPNews is the media.
You don't hear much about it now because it isn't controversial. People on the right and left that rioters should be prosecuted. You don't have BLM supporters threatening civil war if rioters are put in jail.
No, it’s not. You know what I meant by media.
And you’re wrong, it’s a very divisive topic. And even if it isn’t controversial, we still need to hear about it.
[–] StrongRex (981) 6 minutes agoBLM is only a divisive topic for those who are trying to create said division. Point being, were you personally affected by BLM and or ANTIFA? Seriously, were you ever personally victimized by either of those organizations?
No, it’s not. You know what I meant by media.
And you’re wrong, it’s a very divisive topic. And even if it isn’t controversial, we still need to hear about it.
BLM and Antifa are terrorist organizations and have victimized a lot of people. It’s all caught on camera. And the Democrats are still pushing it, that is what’s making it divisive because a lot of people are too stupid to see BLM for what it is.
Were you personally affected by Nazi Germany?
BLM is not a terrorist organization. Unless you think that black lives do not matter.
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You don’t consider destroying buildings an act of terrorism? You don’t consider burning down a police station an act of terrorism? You don’t consider blocking roads, assaulting random people (sometimes trying to kill them), and stealing from businesses an act of terrorism?
Wow.
Show me where BLM had ever been indicted for trying to destroy buildings.
shareI’m not going to show you because it hasn’t happened. Because they belong to the right ideology in this country, which means they can get away with any crime they want. Seriously, what a stupid statement.
shareOk, so you lied.
shareNo, I didn’t lie you idiot. You can see all these atrocities done on camera. If you choose not to look them up, that’s on you.
shareCalling me an idiot doesn't make you not a liar.
shareExcept you actually are an idiot, and a liar, because you admitted in your first post to me that BLM did commit crimes and was getting extremely light sentences for them. Since when does someone have to be indicted in order for them to have actually committed a crime? You are making no sense.
share[–] StrongRex (982) 29 minutes agoWithin the USofA BLM have not been designated a domestic terrorist organization, sorry to burst your rant. DJT via twitter attempted to declare as such but the FBI says no. ANTIFA is a faceless ideology, and that ideology isn't a Terrorist organization. That's like designating Christianity a Terrorist organization. Some think so because of the acts of a few. Same for Islam.
BLM and Antifa are terrorist organizations and have victimized a lot of people.
It’s all caught on camera. And the Democrats are still pushing it, that is what’s making it divisive because a lot of people are too stupid to see BLM for what it is.BLM is NOT a political organization and not aligned with any political party affiliation but does try to affect policy in terms of over-policing, voting, etc.
Were you personally affected by Nazi Germany?Only in the context of how my not-too-distant relatives were impacted and the brutality and terrorism that Nazi Germany inflicted on the world directly and indirectly. share
“Within the USofA BLM have not been designated a domestic terrorist organization, sorry to burst your rant.”
Doesn’t matter. They have still committed terrorist acts, which makes them a terrorist organization.
“DJT via twitter attempted to declare as such but the FBI says no.”
FBI is wrong. FBI is not only wrong but they will cite anyone who disagrees with the governments agenda as a terrorist such as parent speaking up at school boards against critical race theory and other nonsense - and they will even raid homes of anyone who has taken a stand against leftist agendas. I don’t take anything they say seriously, they are a joke.
“BLM is NOT a political organization and not aligned with any political party affiliation but does try to affect policy in terms of over-policing, voting, etc.”
So really, you’re just proving my point. You didn’t refute what I said about Democrats pushing BLM, and numerous Democrats are on record for inciting violence and encouraging BLM rioters to commit the destruction they did over the summer of 2020. That is an undisputed fact. What's being done about them? AOC is certainly facing no consequences for inciting BLM's violence.
“So, your deal is you don't personally like BLM nor ANTIFA.”
Doesn’t matter whether I like them or not. That has no place in this conversation. What matters is the heinous acts they have committed. You’re trying to sound smart and it isn’t working.
"MLK in that respect would have been JUST as divisive to you."
Martin Luther King Jr. did not incite violence toward anyone but especially innocent people and their property. The whole point of his cause was for society to not privilege one race over another. At all. Try again, dumbass.
“To try and justify the events of J6 as equivalent to BLM protests is some silly, silly, groupings of words without meaning or legitimacy.”
Where did I justify January 6?
And no, I did not say they were equivalent, in fact, they are not equivalent. BLM is far, far worse.
“Only in the context of how my not-too-distant relatives were impacted and the brutality and terrorism that Nazi Germany inflicted on the world directly and indirectly.”
So how can you say I don’t have the right to speak about something unless I was personally affected by it? That doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.
Never has a post been more uninformed and wrong. Who tied your shoes today? I dont think a brain so rotted by media is capable of that.
Never colluded with Russia for ANYTHING. Can't rig elections by exposing the Truth about Hilary and her rigging the primaries then bleaching all the emails to try and hide it. Comey investigation was based on false flags created by Clinton to distract from her ACTUAL election rigging!
Jan. 6th was NOT a riot. Again, another false flag created by FBI plants in the crowd that were guided into the Capitol so the plants can start trouble. It's all been released on film that the media just ignores so idiots like you can be easily played. Then when anyone tries to bring it up, they get fired (Tucker) despite being totally justified. So yeah, you continue bootlicking for an evil organization that wants you dead. Corporate boots must taste good.
Never colluded with Russia for ANYTHING?
That's not what the investigation showed my friend. January 6th was created by the FBI?! You said that it wasn't a riot, where did they get the film that showed the windows being smashed at the capitol? Tucker Carlson lied, which a lot of 'news' people do, the problem is that his lies cost Fox $787.5 Million in damages.
I get that you're too stupid to know what a false flag is, but you can't even explain the relationship between Russia and Trump without showing a false, debunked investigation by criminals who work for the DNC and their RICO crime ring, who continue to double down and lie and lie and lie. It works on dumbasses but the rest of us have other sources of information besides MSM. But none of you morons can explain how Ray Epps tries to incite a riot on film but isn't arrested because he's a democrat and whispering to people start shit and gets off scot-free.
shareThats some real hard luck you're having
The police wont arrest democrats ?
The FBI are framing you for rioting ?
talk about a bad day!
Fetch the minute men!
If anything, the false flag was Trump using a riot at the capital as a pretext to declare martial law and reverse the election. He actually issued orders for the military to seize voting machines. Thank god we had people around him that stopped him from doing that.
nice head canon. Take your med schizo.
shareYou deny the truth. Trump wanted the military to seize voting machines to change the vote.
sharesource: CNN host Don Lemon
shareSource: testimony from Trump officials at DHS and national secutity council to Federal Grand Jury.
shareIt wasn't to "change the vote." So again, bullshit spread by YOU. Unless by change the vote, you mean confirm that the machines were inaccurately changing votes from Trump to Biden by Dominion. That's not "changing the vote" that's returning the votes to their original accurate state.
shareThank you for agreeing that he wanted to change the vote on the seized voting machines.
shareClinton supporters are protesting and calling to overturn Donald Trump's victory in the election.
https://youtu.be/oQYVtaNS1kQ
Dems want to abolish the electoral college.
https://youtu.be/Tt5Eg6qCTpM
So?
shareWhy was it ok to say the 2016 election was stolen but you cant say the 2020 election was stolen?
I did love all the salty tears when Trump won fair and square.
You can say it all you want. You just can't conspire to do illegal things to overturn it.
shareYeah you can. Dems conspired with the Steele Dossier.
shareWhat was the illegal conspiracy regarding the Steele Dossier? Durham investigated that firc years and came up with nothing.
shareThat it was all misinformation to distract from Hilary literally stealing the primaries. So they put all the accusations on Trump once her emails leaked, (which their in-the-pocket, propaganda machine media was willing to do), they killed Seth Rich, (the guy who leaked the emails), and bleached everything until Anthony Wiener's emails were leaked to confirm what people already knew, so they had to double down on Trump bullshit accusations.
Nothing about that Dossier was substantial. All smoke and mirrors. Trump didn't need to rig, steal, or fix an election like Biden. He got his votes because there were enough Americans that knew we don't want criminals in office, so like a typical democrat tactic, instead of changing their ways, make their opponent the criminal with these kangaroo courts in liberal shitholes, run by cheaters and liars with agenda who dont serve justice equally, and will allow democrats to break all the laws but if someone else comes close to the line, rules for thee but not for me. How very hebrew of them.
Google is your friend.
shareThose are a LOT of conspiracy theories all lumped in together. It's almost like you are playing a character. Do you get all your news from YouTube or where?
shareThis is like a mafia boss using the defence :
"I specifically said 'lets hope my smith doesent have a nasty accident' "
He is not indicted for any tweets. He is indicted for actions he led to try to illegally and unconstitutionally overthrow the election.
shareIt was nothing but a peaceful protest, get over yourself commie. Trump encouraged only 'Peaceful' protests against certification of the election results, which were bogus, unlawful, and thereby invalid..
As you well know, Trump did not violate the Constitution, he upheld it and the Department of Justice knows full well too. To 'knowingly' charge one for a false act of criminality is in itself criminal. The DOJ is criminal, not Trump. The charges are manufactured and not acts of lawlessness.
The Rule of Law is being turned upside down, on its head, and who or what is capable of preventing what will become of it? Who will stop it, cold?
Real thinking Americans have no trust anymore for our own fed government to uphold the law and do what is right and this condition, if not stopped dead, will destroy the Nation completely.
We are well on our way to utter destruction. And most people, even on this forum, do not fully comprehend what is at stake.
Biden is guilty. NOT Trump.
Galilguy.........If January 6th was "nothing but a peaceful protest", why are so many "peaceful protestors" going to prison? You may have selective listening and selective seeing. What I saw looked NOTHING like a peaceful protest. YMMV.
shareBut what about Hunter's laptop?
shareHow come all the old MAGA zombies are going to jail for selling cupcakes?
share1 count- Conspiracy to defraud the United States
The charge against Mr. Trump details the various methods he and co-conspirators used to try to overturn the results of the 2020 election.
2 counts - Related to efforts to obstruct the vote certification proceedings
Mr. Trump faces two charges involving the vote certification proceedings at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021: one of obstructing that process and one of conspiring to do so.
1 count - Conspiracy to violate civil rights
Related to Mr. Trump’s attempts to reverse election results in states with close elections in 2020.