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Some inconvenient Facts

posted 6 years ago by Duck6 (425)
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-Trump was the first ever US president elect who was pro gay marriage going into an election
-Socialism is the only economic principal that actually REQUIRES billionaires to exist and yet billionaires only exist thanks to capitalism
-white on black crime is statistically insignificant
-Obama accumulated more US debt than all other presidents combined
-The Democrats were the pro slavery party, while the Republicans abolished slavery. Despite whatever crackpot theory you have regarding how that's different now, they still proudly call themselves the Democrats and haven't done anything meaningful to distance themselves from their racist history
-White Republicans were the first people in the history of the world to meaningfully outlaw slavery
-intersectional feminism ironically requires its believers to heavily discriminate based on race, sex and sexual orientation to even work as a theory
-if you measure gender based workplace disparity by practically any other metric, any apparant pay inequalities become blatantly obvious (eg a person doing more dangerous work, working longer hours, having less time off etc will obviously be paid more)
-despite how great you think socialised healthcare or education might be, the US physically can't afford them anymore thanks to the already out of control debt and spending addiction established by Obama and the fed

Bonus:
-Michael Jackson frequently invited children to play with him on his bed without any other adults around, and they had sleepovers. Some of the children graphically accuse him of raping them. Millions of Americans don't care and still idolize him

[–] Borat (658) 6 years ago

Trump banned the bumpstocks!! He is nothing but a democrat gun grabbin commie if u ask me!!

[–] TJLamb0518 (3316) 6 years ago

No one ever asks you.

Nor will they.

You’re a bumpstock

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

You don't know what Socialism is (not to say I support it), and your dismissal of history in the slavery part there is funny. Sad funny, though.

The rest is just the typical overwrought right wing "rant" we would expect you to post.

[–] Duck6 (425) 6 years ago

You seem to know a lot about what I know. I'm not even right wing

[–] ctwdidswej (212) 6 years ago

Prediction: The first woman president will be a Republican and will be accused of misogyny.

[–] Sandoz (2021) 6 years ago

Ridiculous. First of all, misogyny is much more prevalent among Republicans than it is among Democrats (for informal proof, just look at the gender ratio in the parties in both houses of Congress). Secondly, a female Republican candidate will never amass broad support from female Democratic voters because most Dems know ANY Republican candidate only serves the interest of their big money masters...AND the stigma of Trumpism is going to linger for a very long time after the orange-haired ass-hat clown is gone from office.

[–] ctwdidswej (212) 6 years ago

You've proved me half right already.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

DJT is rockin and rollin.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Error.exe

[–] AmeriGirl26 (15113) 6 years ago

I find it hilarious that he's pro-gay and pro-tolerance, when the left does everything they can to promote him as a white supremacist and every other 'ist and 'phobe in the book, despite no real evidence to back it up beyond accusations.

[–] FishGottoSwim (473) 6 years ago

He chose Mike Pence. Not sure how that signifies his tolerance, even in RWNJ world.

And as for his racism & white supremacy, he wants more Norwegians to come to America, not those darker people from "shit hole" countries.

Not enough proof?

How about "good people on both sides" of a NEO-NAZI MArch through American streets - with the marches shouting "Jews Will Not Replace Us!"

Still not enough?

He didn't want people of color handling his money at his casinos. His words.

Not enough?

He & his father were FINED BY THE NIXON ADMINISTRATION for violating the Fair Housing Act - when they systematically refused to rent to black families.

Twice.

Keep your head in the sand, dismiss these very real instances all you want - that doesn't mean that the facts disappear.

If ignorance is bliss, then you must be ecstatic.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

You're responding to AmeriGirl, who just a few weeks ago described her wonderful life due to the fact that she voted for T-rump! That wonderful life includes: 'living like a spy' in America (doesn't want anyone to know who she voted for), 'being like a chameleon in front of her friends' (again, doesn't want anyone to know who she voted for), and not being able to wear the clothign and accessories of her choice ("MAGA" merchandise).

Voting for T-rump and living under his Presidency has really damaged her sense of self-worth, if she had any to begin with in the first place.

[–] ultravioletx (10237) 6 years ago

"-Trump was the first ever US president elect who was pro gay marriage going into an election"
Trump is the only US president to be elected when gay marriage was already federal law.

"-Obama accumulated more US debt than all other presidents combined"
Obama increased the debt to lower unemployment. Trump is increasing the debt to give the wealthy people a bigger tax break.

"-The Democrats were the pro slavery party"
The democrats have always been the party of the people. As American perception of slavery changed - so did democrats.

"-White Republicans were the first people in the history of the world to meaningfully outlaw slavery"
Not sure what "meaningfully" means in your mind. England beat "white republicans" by a couple decades. In fact one reason Lincoln outlawed slavery was because he knew England would hesitate to join the Confederacy if it was to protect slavery.

"-intersectional feminism ironically requires its believers to heavily discriminate based on race, sex and sexual orientation to even work as a theory"
Kinda like how the "white republican" party has to discriminate against people of color to keep democratic votes to a minimum.

"-despite how great you think socialised healthcare or education might be, the US physically can't afford them anymore thanks to the already out of control debt and spending addiction established by Obama and the fed"
We can afford socialized healthcare with a simple wealth tax and removal of loopholes. Right now we have no socialized healthcare yet we have Trump increasing the debt by giving handouts to the wealthy. Changing the tax code fixes both. Two birds - one stone.

More people idolize Michael Jackson because he is deceased. When he was alive American perception of him wasn't so good. Though it was extremely positive in foreign countries like Japan.

I guess by inconvenient you mean that it takes 5 minutes to refute them.

[–] Duck6 (425) 6 years ago

You didn't refute anything, all you did was try to spin facts to suit your twisted narrative

[–] nte1igentwon (963) 6 years ago

How is pointing out that English abolition of slavery predates American spinning facts? I won't hold my breath for a reply.

[–] MinorityRules15 (963) 6 years ago

But now the white supremacists are on the right anyway. They are proud to call themselves the "alt right." No amount of screaming, "But you're a Democrat!!!" at them will change that. They'd laugh at you.

[–] Cuthbert (732) 6 years ago

It’s hilarious how so many Trump supporters rely on twisting and spinning and accusing any non Trump follower of doing exactly that. Time and again we see this and they never, ever come back with the quality of research, knowledge, and presenting of it in a clear fashion as the commenters they are blathering to, and without paying the respect they are shown by them.

They’re copy cats of Trump’s juvenile communication style. They’re just like him but unsuccessful.

[–] FishGottoSwim (473) 6 years ago

I don't think that they'd be able to take such icky photos of themselves with their daughters on their laps without having Child Services come knock on their door.

I don't think that they'd be able to get as much attention from Saudi, Russian & foreign banks - after Americans turn them down because their financial ducks aren't exactly able to line up in any sense of a row.

And I don't think that they'd get away with calling themselves the 'best negotiator in the world' if they had a fraction of the lawsuits that Trump has had.

Trump's "winning" is inconceivable to them.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Excellent post, as usual.