NoI leader Farrakhan recently called for the end of the white man in America.
For those who don't know, and most don't, Nation of Islam is a black muslim/muslim black/black/muslim group. muslim=hate and genocide. black=socialism and anarchy.
It embodies the epitome of everything traditional values and Christian civilization stand against.
Over the dead bodies of every last freeman in America, cunt.
Hoping Trump cracks down on this "terrorist" group.
After the publication of this post 5 days ago, streams of libtard haters hanging around the President Trump page rushed to defend the Nation of Islam (although of course none would directly admit it). There ensued arguments ranging from varied topics to the often-resorted-to personal attacks and deviations, and we have now reached 100 comments.
I am proud to say none of the leftists' rants and claims have thus gone without thorough analysis, debate and rebuttal. This is one Donald Trump post with some semblance of reason. I had stated I would leave my post unattended as it was time-consuming, but have since decided to continue and will stay on for now.
I would encourage the occasional open-minded reader to peruse the discussions and read my comments to gain an overview of the traditional views on most of the topics mentioned. I would deeply recommend much further research of news, ideology and these topics on credible sources other than the socialist/pro-Islam mainstream.
If anyone would like to continue or initiate a discussion with the original poster feel free to PM me.
Of course, you could always go back to watching CNN and burning American flags.
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Once again, Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam, fuck you.
The KKK has been greatly exaggerated in mainstream media.
So the problem, in your opinion, is that the Mainstream media has exaggerated the deeds, actions and words of the KKK and even though you DID not say this the mainstream media has ignored the deeds, words and actions of the NoI?
So what is your fact-based, information based assessment for Donald Trump going after the NoI?
The history of the KKK and White Nationalism is littered with hate, intimidation and murder. They even made a celebrated movie about it, Birth of a Nation. Does such a thing exist for the NoI?
***And "white nationalists" are no threat. nationalism is a good thing not a bad thing.***
Is there something objective that you can point me to that explains that or even demonstrates that White Nationalists and Nationalism are no threat and is a good thing? Are there zero instances of White Nationalists committing crimes in the name of Nationalism?
***It is not just the NoI. There are black supremacist groups one of which is Antifa, which rarely are mentioned in the media.***
Antifa is neither a "Black Supremacist" group nor is it affiliated even remotely with NoI. Antifa is very much indeed mentioned in Mainstream Media and are very much against the KKK, destructive Capitalism and are more anarchists than anything else.
None of what you typed has anything to do with Donald trump going after the NoI. What crimes or laws has the NoI committed and Black Muslims broken?
Has the NoI terrorized you? I'm willing to bet you've never even met nor seen someone from the NoI except maybe on TV. You probably don't even know a "Black Muslim" or ever had a conversation with one. I don't think you've ever even encountered either in your postings on message boards. But I could be wrong.
***And there are many muslim groups, but the whole of islam has been killing people since its beginnings.*** I've always wondered why and how Islam became so dominant in certain African countries when the slave trade was one of Islam's most profitable industries.
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the mainstream media rarely if ever mentions the NOI. Islamic groups are sometimes mentioned in a compartmentalized manner, but Islamic attacks are often not attributed to Islam. Black crime is minimized, and white-on black crime, and white crime, is extensively reported on.
I haven't watched Birth of a Nation. So thanks for referring it to me. I will watch it as it should be watched without your obvious leftism and pro-islam attitude. I will see if it's actually "littered with hate intimidation and murder." Judging from your statement that it's celebrated, it's probably well received by the conservative community. Which will make it anything but. Thanks.
"Is there something objective that you can point me to that explains that or even demonstrates that White Nationalists and Nationalism are no threat and is a good thing?"
I have no words. How old are you? Do they seriously teach you outright at schools that nationalism is a threat. Or are you so media-saturated that this is what you think. Wow.
"Are there zero instances of White Nationalists committing crimes in the name of Nationalism?"
KKK exists. No one is disputing that. But KKK isn't "white nationalist." The media is profoundly anti-American, anti-Christian civilization, anti-traditional values. Whites who are nationalists are patriots, not violent kooks like the SJW would like us believe.
"Antifa is neither a "Black Supremacist" group nor is it affiliated even remotely with NoI. Antifa is very much indeed mentioned in Mainstream Media and are very much against the KKK, destructive Capitalism and are more anarchists than anything else."
You're clearly pro-Antifa and a socialist who thinks free trade is evil. Antifa is very much a violent black supremacist group. You have clearly never set foot outside the US to see what socialism, communism is like. I'm really not sure how to proceed with such a brainwashed individual here. You seem to associate capitalism with the KKK [cont.]
I haven't watched Birth of a Nation. So thanks for referring it to me. I will watch it as it should be watched without your obvious leftism and pro-islam attitude. I will see if it's actually "littered with hate intimidation and murder." Judging from your statement that it's celebrated, it's probably well received by the conservative community. Which will make it anything but. Thanks.
There is nothing inferred and or Leftist in anything that I posted nor asked you. I neither defended nor attacked any position, ideology or group. I just was trying to understand some of your positions. Thus the term "Conversation". I never said the movie Birth of a Nation is littered with hate, intimidation and murder I said that the KKK and White Nationalism was. You can form your own opinion on the 1915 Birth of the Nation.
"There is nothing inferred and or Leftist in anything that I posted nor asked you. I neither defended nor attacked any position, ideology or group." - that's quite a statement.
yes buddy, I know I can form my own opinion. I'm aware of that fact. Thanks for granting me the undeserved privilege.
Contempt for free speech is a right wing trait by its very nature. Don’t know where you got the idea that suppression of information and ideals is left wing.
Contrary to what you have been brainwashed with in schools and in the media, no, Conservatives, Trump, the right-wing, have NOTHING TO DO with Hitler, the leader of the Nazi Party in the 1930s-40s.
Some history for you.
The Nazi Party was a political party which had its roots in the LGBT underworld of 1920s Germany. The term "Nazi" is short for the National * SOCIALIST WORKERS * Party. They were not so much a "political" party in that their main tenet and purpose of existing was hatred & genocide of Jews. As such they were technically neither left-nor right wing. The left were the Communists, the "right" of sorts was the Monarchists.
However their anti-Semitic way and their methods of coming to power, namely control of mass media, propaganda schemes, total control & tyranny were fundamentally left-wing.
After it all came down, Hitler was the most hated figure publicly, so what better * new * propaganda scheme than to make people believe the right-wing is Nazi.
Hitler's values were hatred and genocide of Jews, incidentally the same values of Islam and leftism. I support Israel and God's people the Jews, so your commoner garden libtard attack does not work.
Antifa is a direct result of the rise of white nationalism. Antifa and white nationalists are both guilty of stirring the same hornet's nest. They embolden each other. Though white nationalists are guilty of murder... Heather Heyer's murder.
As for supremacy, apparently you don't know what it means. Antifa and BLM do not exist because they believe black people to be superior. Not even close. Sure you aren't just trolling us, kid?
You can't have anti-fascism without fascism first. Without fascism, there is no Antifa. Without cops killing unarmed black people, there is no BLM. You're just saying they believe in black supremacy, but of course, you make no attempt to back it up with anything. BLM did not exist before the reporting of the deaths of Treyvon Martin, Eric Garner, etc.
"America is not "fascist". It is becoming fascist because of people like you."
America isn't. People like you are becoming fascist because of people like me. People like you relish words over substance, whereas people like me relish substance over words. Words are what causes reactionary people like you to become fascists. You are so intolerant of opposing views that it causes you anger to the point you are willing to excuse fascism over it. Though the anger stems more from your inability to defend your statements. I can see you're tired of people kicking your teeth in up and down this thread. It has taken a toll on you. This, of course, happens to every right-winger who engages in open discourse with the left. You need to take the Dave Rubin route and avoid opposing opinions at all cost. It's the only way to avoid abruptly leaving these threads like that.
if you want to discuss things at leisure, message me.
nobody has kicked my teeth in this thread. I've posted complete and thus far irrefuted arguments. I've already shut down several libtards who came here in defense of Nation of Islam.
I am leaving this thread because it is too-time consuming to attend to every leftist hater that pops up. I have things to do, you know. I am trying to help you see things, but I really don't give a fuck about what you think.
Go ahead, we can have a discussion, that I can actually tend to, and we will see how it goes down. You can talk about fascism, BLM, Ace Ventura, Trump the father of All Evil, Nazism, shootings, whatever you want.
Well nobody seems to be giving a crap what you think. That's become certainly clear. So I understand the agitation.
I've already said my piece about BLM and fascism. You got stuck and said that people like me were the reason for fascism. It's a stupid excuse, but again, I understand your frustration. You've hit a wall. Now you're talking about talking about stuff instead of talking about stuff.
No, you’re idea that you are better than anyone else based on your belief in Santa is a place holder for destruction of civilisation.
Christian zealotry has perpetrated some of the most egregious crimes on humanity the world has ever seen. What what Christian values is it that you speak of? Which Christian faith is the right one? Which testament?
You wanna know what sums up Christianity perfectly? All the child rape. Decades of priests raping children and the church kept it quiet. But that’s fine, that’s what those who desire power do. But the followers did something much worse, they kept filling the collection plates. They kept giving to child rapists, and their enablers. Believe whatever you want, but don’t kid yourself you’re any better than anyone else.
You can't have Patriot Act without patriotism? You can't have antisemitism without semitism!
Antifa is against free speech. They mocking call it "freeze peach". I think you owe the OP an apology for accusing him of doing to you what you are doing to him.
“You can't have anti-fascism without fascism first”
Your referral to conservatives and the right-wing, thus America as well, as fascists is an indicative of your left-sponsored ignorance. Fascism is a tyrannical dictatorship, the right stands for freedom. Referring to Trump or conservatives as “fascists” is a common but false propaganda scheme used to sway the minds of young people such as you.
“Without fascism, there is no Antifa”
Antifa is not anti-fascism. Antifa is anti-Christian civilization, although if you want to refer to free Christian civilization as “fascism” well keep blinding yourself.
“Without cops killing unarmed black people, there is no BLM.”
Again, the mainstream media is bullshitting you. In the media Black and black-onwhite crime (the majority) is minimized, and white-on black crime, and white crime, is extensively reported on. the few incidents of overreaction by LE, which is not a problem, are blown out of proportion when it's a black.
About ‘police brutality’ – no such thing. If you constantly engage in (violent) crime, attack police officers, resist arrest and disobey orders ... you might get shot. Or clubbed.
You do not have to be armed to be a threat. If you are a criminal, you should be put down however that has to be done.
“You're just saying they believe in black supremacy, but of course, you make no attempt to back it up with anything.”
BLM is based on the ‘police brutality’ and ‘racism’ bullshit and their purpose is to subvert the traditional Christian values, hence the rampant anti-white discrimination in America. Blacks can do whatever they want, but whites cannot do anything to blacks and police cannot touch blacks. Because whites were the traditional established nation. Also political correctness.
You are yet another person who has so ingested the wrong-wing platform that you have all the handy sophist arguments when someone calls you out on your hateful agenda. Accuse others of hate, not your own side. Exaggerate the things you fear while you ignore your own excesses.
Then you go so far as to brag about some physical encounter you've had with someone. Bully for you, and I use the word "bully" with intent.
People like you need a mob to feel empowered with. I hope there are no children involved with your agenda of hatred, because when we poison our children with hatred, a hard life is all that we'll know.
you accuse me of being on the "wrong wing" yet you cannot disseminate the "handy sophist arguments", as you call them. admit it, you are on the 'wrong wing.'
Then you call me hateful, excessive. I am pointing out the facts. If to you that seems hateful, that is another indicative of your own twisted, brainwashed way of looking at things.
Hence you call me that childhood term "bully" but say nothing about Jews on the metro getting attacked. Curious double standard as you leftists seem to like the "sexual assault" thing.
You seem to be the prototypical egalitarian pacifist East Coast liberal. You cannot bring yourself to even describe an engagement. "You go *so far * as to brag". I made a statement about how I put down a Jew-hating black piece of shit. An attacker. Not technically a threat, fortunately for him. I have a strong sense of duty - a man is to protect those around him. If you are a man, which I can't tell from the prose, you have a problem.
Oh and about the poor little children - I'm thinking of your children, how they will grow up indoctrinated by leftist ideology and evidently no sense of reality, and unprotected. when it happens to your daughter or wife in the metro I sure hope I am around to protect them, because evidently you won't.
I don't think that equates now. KKK have more or less been suppressed and have been more or less docile if not a bit more open. To me the KKK are now without masks while the ones causing anarchy and destruction are those and clad all in black. They only killed around 4000 also, while muzzies have killed hundreds of thousands and still going strong.
Should we play "Wheel of Red State" to see where you're posting from? I'm guessing there's a Cracker Barrel, a Waffle House and/or a Stuckeys within 25 miles of where you're posting.
Ahh, but you're comparing Muslims living in a third world to people living in a first world. Changing the living conditions like that greatly increases the violence. Now compare the number of Islamic violence incidents here in the US to the number of domestic right-wing violence incidents. Oh shit, republican right-wingers have that motherfucking market cornered, son.
you are seriously fucked up. that is exactly, precisely what the democrat left-wing media wants you to believe.
The vast majority Mass killings in the US come mainly from the following: 1)Islamic attacks - the Koran demands it 2)Violent socialists or leftists, as the guy who shot up the republicans at their baseball game 3) Operations by tyrannical Government to garner public emotional support behind gun control 4) a few cases of mental insanity - that has nothing to do with the right-wing
Other violent incidents would be 1)crime, of which blacks have a majority, 2) black supremacists, and 3) some violent racists such as KKK.
And folks, the "violence" in the US is NOTHING like other countries - and the few incidents are precisely because it is targeted as a Christian nation. It is NOTHING like other countries, I would know.
None of that of course is reported in the media, instead we get shitloads of misinformation, propaganda and facts are censored. creating the very same violent leftists who go and commit the same crimes.
Changing living conditions never causes violence. That is a complete falsehood. wherever there are muslim there will be war because Islam is about killing.
Your statements reinforce my point. That's exactly what Vox and Newsweek want you to believe...and those extremely leftist, anti-American, anti-white, pro-Islam sites are full of shit.
Actually there's compelling evidence that the Las Vegas shooting was in fact a government operation for the purpose of getting people's emotions behind gun control, and of course the media went crazy making a huge deal about how it's "right-wing white gun owners."
Buddy, Venezuela is a * socialist/communist dictatorship *, and I am not sure where you got the idea it is a Christian country, there is Catholicism there, like in mexico. Huge difference.
No, conditions never cause violence. There has to be a motive. You keep spouting the bullshit that right-wingers are responsible for violence and Islam is not, I'm not going to keep repeating myself other than to say that what is reported in the media about killers and their motives is false.
I have a lot of experience in many different countries, hence I know what the situation actually is that I have seen with my own eyes. Not what the media tells me.
Since you're so pro-multiculturalism, what is your multicultural experience??
As Bill Maher said, the republican party is now the party of Alex Jones, pushing facts aside in favor of ideological conspiracy theories.
Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. A Christian is somebody who believes Jesus was the savior (a Christ). Jesus was in the Koran as well, not as a savior, but as a harbinger.
Of course poor living conditions increase violence, ya goof. Look at the violence in ghettos compared to the suburbs, including black suburbs. When the jobs leave a neighborhood in the gutter, the people living there resort to extremes to survive.
You haven't told me what are your "multicultural" experiences are, since you seem to be happy hating America, perhaps you could tell me if you've been anywhere else?
I'm not a conspiracy theorist, buddy. But I know what the left stands for and how they get there. The fact that you quote Bill Maher speaks of your extreme indoctrination and is irrelevant to the facts I stated.
Christian is more than believing Jesus was the savior. The socialism in Venezuela is the cause of the unrest in that nation.
Poor living conditions do NOT increase violence. The mentality of the population in that condition, such as catholic Mexicans, may sometimes generate more crime. "More crime" does not involve following the commands of Sura 8:12, etc.
Black suburbs are very violent and crime-intense...and I have not seen a "ghetto" in the US other than in socialist areas.
Which leads to, you haven't answered my question. Nor have you countered any of my other points. You have yet to provide a single motive for a "right-winger" to kill, and you have yet to provide an example of that that isn't a false statement by leftist media. Read my comment, "They [mainstream media] created a huge public phobia in the east coast about "white supremacists" (and about whites period) and how supposedly they are a huge, violent faction that is responsible for an "oppressive" and "fascist" society and international meddling and also responsible (somehow) for terrorism and mass killings. They create the myth that Republicans and conservatives are "white supremacists" and 'Nazis'." All of which is blatantly false. The right wing stands for freedom and traditional values, and we own firearms because they facilitate doing our duty. Protecting women and children and enforcing freedom.
I've already stated the facts about the cause and target of mass killings, and about media censorship and misinformation about those incidents and their causes.
I repeat myself, and quote,
"Loohohazerz!!"
and as I said, quit patronizing. I don't take that too well.
you know? I couldn't read your comment, kid. It all seems like a rambling rant making no sense at all. It must be because I don't agree with it, and can't find an adequate response.
you know what? that's a totally false and ridiculous accusation, comrade.
there are thousands of posts and comments I disagree with, reporting any one of them wouldn't cause them to be deleted.
that has never been done. we're all for free discussion.
and I don't have any "comrades" unless you have your way, then we'll all refer to each other as "comrade" and report to Collective Farm 341 every day for work.
Even if you were more than twice as likely to be attacked by a right winger than a Muslim, Muslims are about 1% of the population. It is an extreme overrepresentation. You cited two articles and neither one mentioned this. It should have been obvious.
Blacks are about 300 times more likely than whites to be involved in gang related crime. This is similar to the level of crime committed by blacks in Africa. Muslims also have a similar level of crime whether they are in America or Asia. Hispanics have a similar level of crime whether they are in Venezuela or America. You say poverty causes violence, but there is nothing to support that. How do you know the direction of causality is not that violence causes poverty? Many particular crimes such as rape do not even have an obvious financial motive. Doesn't this make sense why you can conveniently say Muslim countries are third world and ignore them? Racial statistics are always like this for a reason.
I am certain you are a white male. I know this because your understanding of race is informed by media reports which leave holes rather than observation which fills in a gestalt. Every other race is conscious of this.
Hahaha ...
All the verifiable information from hard-working journalists who employ integrity in order to be trusted -- ISN"T CORRECT !! LIES ! FAKE NEWS !
That's the ultimate dodge. If you don't like what you're hearing about yourself, just call it biased from a corrupt media. Create a corrupt media organization to disseminate propaganda, then call it Free Speech, fair and honest.
To borrow from your compatriot Joe Wilson, -- You Lie !
"hard-working journalists who employ integrity in order to be trusted ... verifiable information" - false.
That's what they want you to think. They have a deep radical bias and employ lies, propaganda misinformation and censorship to push their agenda on the nation.
You call the mainstream media trustworthy because of your ideology. In fact, your ideology is a result of the media.
No, I knowingly typed and meant White Nationalist.
And you're right, there is nothing wrong with people "wishing" for an ethnostate. There is something very wrong when people try to forcibly create an ethnostate at the expense of others. Problem is that an in most countries/nations where Colonialism and Imperialism were practiced they already diluted the ability to be a pure Ethnic state.
They can't end the white race without bombing all of Europe and America. If they bombed all of those two, they'd also be killing other foreign groups. Chill out.
Unless a radical Muslim became President in a European country and then pulls a Hitler with concentration camps for white people, it can't happen.
At best, they can only do a civil war type deal along with these suicide bombings.
I'm not advocating anything. I'm simply pointing out that as the global population merges there are more and more bi-racial babies. Eventually we'll all be the same.
Where did he advocate violence. keep in mind "violence" means aggression (as in, "Sura8:12tellsmetokillinfidelsthereforeAllahuAckbar...BOOM") not use of force. OR anything you don't agree with.
I mean Kaiser Drumpf The supreme leader of 'Merica
I have no idea what you mean. You trailed off into gibberish.
He clearly advocated violence during his campaign. "They'd be taken out on stretchers" "I'll pay for your lawyer" [paraphrased, not sure the exact language]
You're making fun of a specific ethnicity ceasing to exist. Would it be racist if I said "lul can't wait till blackies stop existing so I can put them in a museum"? You decide.
Calm down there, Joffrey. Btw bro, don't act like it's only black guys with white girls. Some black girls are with white guys. Do not laugh at this, it does happen.
I'm perfectly calm, I'm not mad about people loving eachother and making babies. Btw brah no where in my post did I mention black people or black men fucking white women. I intentionally used bi-racial as opposed to mullato to be inclusive of all types of interracial fucking.
I support interracial fucking, beautiful things happen!
you're complacent. have you no idea of the current world scenario?
there are literally 1.4 billion people around the world who believe a book that commands them to kill you and me. some of them actively participate in violence while others stay put and teach their children to hate Jews, Christians, and anybody who isn't their particular religion. the day they declare worldwide jihad is when shit hits the fan.
A large part of Europe is overrun by so-called "refugees" and their demographics are rapidly changing. Roaming the streets attacking people, enforcing islamic law/culture and raping women. Several enclaves have been established, a literal invasion. also if I am not mistaken several countries already have muslim leaders if not presidents/PM.
Israel is surrounded by Arab countries all of which have attempted multiple times to destroy and massacre it . Not to mention the so-called "Palestinians."
"these suicide bombings" - you seem to have no idea of the scale of these stabbings, shootings, bombings, lynchings, clubbings, etc. that happen in Israel, Europe and America on a regular basis.
And there are growing, violent groups and populations in the US, and already a few enclaves.
there are still many freemen in the US and Israel will never fall. but there's a problem. there has been since the year 622.
So quit typing, arm up and hit the streets like a real man. Maybe you'll be confronted by the left-wing, media-controlled local constabulary who will ask you if you've lost your mind. If you are honest, you will say "Yes."
you are deluded. generalizations about what they've told you people with traditional values are like, do not constitute coherent arguments. what exactly are you accusing me of here?
Islam is taking over Christian nations from within. Shit kids out then run away from home for asylum seekage then impose sharia law when you have enough people. Look at the UK and France with the rise in Islam and the fall of Christianity.
you have a misunderstanding about the term "violence." violence means aggression, not use of force.
Islam is violent.
about me. bingo. I know, right. Unthinkable. Racist. Bigoted. Radical.
Let me tell you something, you think your side is right and my side is wrong, too. We all have a dogma, it is simply a case of which dogma is the best dogma with which to be dogmatized.
Wrong. When it comes to religion, I don't think ANY side is right. I'm fine with people believing whatever they want to and I don't have a problem until they start telling me how I and everyone else should act based on THEIR beliefs or the followers of those religions start causing trouble that disrupts the peace.
And I never accused you being one of "those" people, I merely said that if you were then I'd have a problem with you.
like I said, there's only two sides here. one is right, one is wrong. you also have a religion, although you do not admit it.
"I'm fine with people believing whatever they want to"
apparently not, given the fact that you loiter around this forum because it's a Donald Trump page and you and the rest of the leftist rabble want to pull apart your giant, blue, fake-news stamped asscheeks and shit on the poor man, and refer to those not in agreement as "alt-right lunatics", etc. while supporting your own - what you call "legitimate" - propagandists and censors.
"the followers of those religions start causing trouble that disrupts the peace"
interesting you should say that, since you rush here to defend your precious, untouchable islam despite the proven fact that it's a violent sect based on genocide.
i couldn't really give less shit about what you 'accuse' me of being, in fact if your type have a problem with me, that probably means I'm right. go ahead, back up your "problem" with facts.
Clinton was a disappointment, I'll admit...but at the time ANY Dem was a better choice than the 12 years of Republican oppression brought to the fore by Reagan and Bush.
Obama was a better than average President, and could have been a great one if not for the coordinated policy of opposition instigated by the Republican-controlled Congress after 2010 that stymied any legislation he tried to introduce. AND he did drag this country out of the recessional mess that W. left this country in and was responsible for the current prosperity the economy is enjoying right now (no matter what the liars on the right claim as a victory for Donnie).
I just hope the GOP remembers how "Anti" they were to everything Obama tried to do when he was President...because that's what they're going to get a taste of after this November.
Farrakhan is indeed a hateful guy, as many turned against him in the 80s for his opinion of not only whites but also Jews. But don't let his hatred of white people trick you into thinking that you are oppressed.
Farrakhan and people like him are very easy to ignore. Ignoring him is what stops him and his ilk from growing. When you fight him, you give him and people around him a reason to fight back and grow. Don't give them the opportunity.
That's the mistake the SJWs made. They've spent a decade referring to many people as racist, and now we have Trump. And now that we have Trump, we also have eight Nazis running in the midterms.
Conservatives, Trump, Republicans, Right-Wing, gun owners, Christians, Nationalists, Patriots, whatever you want to call them.
They are NOT Nazis.
Some history for you.
The Nazi Party was a political party which had its roots in the LGBT underworld of 1920s Germany. The term "Nazi" is short for the National * SOCIALIST WORKERS * Party. They were not so much a "political" party in that their main tenet and purpose of existing was hatred & genocide of Jews. As such they were technically neither left-nor right wing. The left were the Communists, the "right" of sorts was the Monarchists.
However their anti-Semitic way and their methods of coming to power, namely control of mass media, propaganda schemes, total control & tyranny were fundamentally left-wing.
After it all came down, Hitler was the most hated figure publicly, so what better * new * propaganda scheme than to make people believe the right-wing is Nazi.
i have not researched these cases specifically. therefore I cannot debate their specific ideologies. I do know that the sources you being informed by, as shown when you attempted to propagate a ridiculous scapegoat, are blatantly unreliable.
a quick search on Wikipedia reveals that several of these men are also labeled "white supremacists" by the left-controlled mainstream. this indicates that they are simply being called "Nazis" as propaganda against their views. as I've said before, the term "white supremacist" is bullshit used to attack men who hold traditional views in America.
I've already explained in detail what the Nazi ideology is (anti-Semitism), how it came about (the Socialist Workers party in homosexual circles), it's true political source and method of operation (the left, tyranny and censorship), how it was defeated (by those whom it invaded, and by patriotic conservative Americans in a free era), and what its enemies created (a sovereign Jewish state in its rightful territory). America and Britain went on to fight the war on Communist socialism, the ideological side of which they are (obviously) currently losing. (That and islamization, since the beginning.) Nazism, and the few Neo-Nazis, have nothing to do, I repeat, - NOTHING TO DO - with the right wing.
if indeed some of these men hold neo-Nazi views , in other words, are anti-Semitic, they do not fit with the Republican Party, which is pro-Israel and supports Jews, and perhaps should run for the 'demo'kkk-rats instead.
but again, I suspect that is simply more of the "Nazi" propaganda scheme. one at least is part of the very called-for campaign It's OK to be White which would make him a prime target of your Vox and other mainstream anti-white, anti-traditional values, anti-Christian civilization media sources' misinformation & manipulatory campaigns.
i see you have ceased to engage in discussion kid. perhaps you are tired of facing reality or simply have ignored me to continue to fuel your hatred of everything American. or traditional. still waiting on that answer.
This is why I can never be leftist. I like debate and they don't. Debate is how you know you're right, or how you can strengthen your argument. Why do you need these tactics like ignoring people? I do not fear that the flat earth society will take over unless we deny them a platform. I am confidant that their position is not convincing and thus all the more easy to argue against.
I believe the social justice warriors did not create a backlash just for arguing against racism. It was because their arguments against racism were no good. It turns out there are differences between the races that are easily observable, and large scale effort to cover it up could not hold back the resentment caused by imposing multiculturalism, although it did for a while. If there were no social justice warriors, you believe there would be no Trump, but i believe everyone would be Trump. They make a better case through a handful of internet memes than billion dollar campaigns can make.
It's a product of wanting to be viewed as the victim. Some white people feel that something is being taken from them when minorities fight for equal rights. Instead of being oppressed, they view the slightest potential decrease of superiority as oppression.
Unfortunately for your convenient ideology, wrong.
and I haven't heard the answer to my question. since you think America is so oppressive, what's your experience in real life (apart from keyboard warring for social justice in your mom's basement, watching CNN, reading Vox and the BLM riots) and in other countries?
Funny true story. Louis Farrakhan has always felt that Israel has had an unjust and unwarranted relationship with the US Government.
They may not hold the same views on race, but even black and white extremists sometimes agree.
Louis Farrakhan, leader of the Nation of Islam, praised Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump on Saturday for, as Farrakhan put it, not accepting money from the Jewish community — comments delivered just a day before Trump appeared on CNN and failed to condemn white supremacist David Duke, who voiced support for Trump's campaign. Though Trump has said that his campaign is self-funded, he has in fact received millions of dollars in small donations. His daughter, Ivanka, with whom he is close, converted to Judaism to marry her husband Jared Kushner.
Both Duke and Farrakhan are outspoken in their view that the Jewish community wields disproportionate — and nefarious — control over world affairs. Both advocate against interracial relations. And both have issued at least some limited kudos for Trump.
Of course Farrakhan "feels that Israel has had an unjust relationship with the US." He hates Israel. Elijah Muhammad also did. NOI is fundamentally anti-Israel and anti-Semitic.
Washington Post, like most other mainstream media, is obsessed with denigrating President Trump. They created a huge public phobia in the east coast about "white supremacists" (and about whites period) and how supposedly they are a huge, violent faction that is responsible for an "oppressive" and "fascist" society and international meddling and also responsible (somehow) for terrorism and mass killings. They create the myth that Republicans and conservatives are "white supremacists" and "Nazis." Trump is very Republican and conservative, so slap him with the "white supremacist" sticker and the millennial masses instantly have rampant Trump-phobia.
The fact that you quoted a liberal news site reporting on the leader of a violent cult group praising Trump for "not accepting donations from Jews" -which I don't know where he got that from- does not make Trump an anti-Semite.
Trump, and people with traditional values generally, support Israel and defend Judeo-Christian civilization.
Your side inflames hatred, then objects to the backlash. You set up a situation where you are unpopular, then complain about it. News organizations that report your intentions are the enemy. You (and yours) simply make false statements about the state of the world, shady half-truths, push it like gospel, and hope some groundswell of outrage arises from our dissatisfied, under-educated, poorly-paid populace.
And arms manufacturers profit all the while.
hey. buddy, if you have a relevant comment or argument to make, state it. otherwise quit making generalized and false statements everywhere.
"Your side inflames hatred, then objects to the backlash. You set up a situation where you are unpopular, then complain about it"
so you're accusing us of creating the "hatred" that you hate us for. the reality is that you have a problem with our ideology.
"News organizations that report your intentions are the enemy."
you imply that we're some sort of freaks, which is false. the reports are also false.
"You (and yours) simply make false statements about the state of the world, shady half-truths, push it like gospel, and hope some groundswell of outrage arises from our dissatisfied, under-educated, poorly-paid populace. And arms manufacturers profit all the while."
I say the exact same about you and yours, with better grounds. by the way, arms manufacturers profiting aren't a bad thing, unless they sell arms to the wrong people.