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why does he still have supporters?


when even any random kid knows that hes bad or at least not doing a good job at being the POTUS.

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A random kid like you?

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well any kid that doesnt relies on Fox news as the only source of news they are getting I guess.

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Well a lot of people watch CNN and MSNBC and if you think those networks are unbiased then you are seriously out of touch. Its the behavior of those networks getting caught putting forward BS that has allowed Trump to so successfully use the Fake News crap, particularly CNN. Some of its intentional, and some of it simply shoddy reporting, but the shoddy reporting is partially caused by desire to make the current President look bad. I am not a big Trump fan but its pretty clear you are definitely not going to get an honest look at his Presidency from most of these networks.

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No one said anything about CNN and MSNBC not being biased. Every media organization has its slant. But that's not the topic. But any reasonable measure of Trump is that he's unhinged and incompetent. But you'd never know it watching Fox.

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I don't think he is really either. He runs the Presidency like he would one of his businesses. He isn't a politician and doesn't act like one. Government probably runs far too slowly for how he normally does his business. I am not a huge fan of the man, but in the end results will matter most.

But as far as coverage goes, while FOX has a lot of viewers, there is little question most of the questionable news comes from the left leaning networks like CNN,MSNBC,NBC etc which combined reach far more people. I have no problem if you want to call out FOX, but a person is being dishonest if you think FOX is worse than the other networks whose reach in the end goes further.

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By any objective measure based on "results" as you say, Trump has still been a dismal failure as president. There hasn't been a president who has accomplished so little when his own party has controlled both houses of congress. He should be passing major legislation left and right when his own party controls congress. Instead he's so preoccupied being such a divisive figure and attacking people in his party that nothing gets done.

He finally got his massive giveaway to the corporations and himself with the tax cut he just signed, but no thanks to him since all the heavy lifting came from congress members who had kindly asked his advisers to keep him away because he was doing more harm than good due to his ignorance of the bills being debated.

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The democrats struggled with this as well when Obama was in office, the ACA just barely made it through before they lost the ability to pass it and that legislation was doomed to be overhauled no matter who was President, so I am not sure how accomplished that was. Trump did get the Tax cut through that even Bernie admitted was a good thing for most Americans, even while whining that corporation got something. One of the most important things that effect perception of a Presidency is the economy and as it stands whether its something he personally had something to do with or not, the economy has improved since he took office. We will see. I didn't vote for the man, but I also don't want him to fail. I didn't care for Obama, he did little to improve the country, but I never wished for him to fail either. I will judge Trump when his term is done and we actually see what he did instead of nit picking everything and trying to wish bad things to happen.

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Not at all because republicans made a big stalling effort to seat Al Franken remember? They only had a supermajority for a very brief one month.

But that's not the only major legislation passed by him. You seem to be forgetting that in his first six months he signed the Lily Ledbetter fair pay act, Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act, the American Recovery and Investment Act aka the stimulus bill, Omnibus Appropriations Act that laid out the federal budget, the Credit CARD Act, (bill providing consumer protections, such as a credit card bill of rights), and the Omnibus Public Land Management Act which was a large public land management bill which, among other things, protected over two million acres of wilderness spread over nine states.

Do you understand that there are sunset provisions on middle class tax cuts while tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations are permanent while it blows a 1.5 trillion hole in the deficit? In other words, the middle class will be bearing the brunt of the burden of the cost of the bill when their tax cuts expire. It's essentially a massive re-distribution of wealth to the wealthy. The American people rightly perceive this, which is why the tax bill is so unpopular.

Did you know Trump inherited a strong economy that had added jobs for 85 consecutive months and can only take credit for 10 of them? It's hard to reconcile your claim that Obama "did little to improve the country" when he inherited the worst economic recession since the Great Depression and added 11.5 million jobs, reducing unemployment from 10% to 4.8% when he left office, rescued a US auto industry on the brink of insolvency, improved weekly earnings for all workers 4.8% on his watch. Why are you crediting Trump for improving the economy that was already rising thanks to his predecessor while ignoring what Obama had a direct hand in improving with legislation?


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Well I live in Canada and here the news is incredulous to the amount of crap he does and gets away with. CNN and MSNBC are telling the truth. If you live outside of America you can see the amount of sycophancy going on within the FOX or FAUXNEWS channel. You say the reporting by these news channels have shoddy reporting and that they're desire is to make the current potus look bad? They don't have to make him look bad, he is bad. There is a reason Trump has been made persona non grata in the UK. Because he's a half wit fascist who is also a sexist ass. That's as honest as the countries outside of the United States can get. They're not doing it. MNBC and CNN aren't doing it. Trump is doing it on his own. He's rescinded every single safeguard on the environment, heath, animals..... He refuses to acknowledge that his main supporters are Nazi loving fascists. Those news networks are telling the absolute truth. Trump is a danger to the world. You don't got smacking that hornet's nest that is North Korea and keep doing it because you want to have a nuclear war. And that's that Trump wants. He wants to be able to use those codes to prove he's decisive. There are members of the military already trying to figure out how they can resist him without committing treason against the president. One should not have to worry about your president being mentally unstable enough to have to resist him. The military hate him.

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Economy alone will do wonders for him, if it continue to project upwards like it has been his support will probably slowly trickle upwards. Strong economy fixes a lot of issues on its own.

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xfool- He's "not doing a good job "? Something tell me that you have to turn off MSNBC with its line-up of Trump haters like Rachel Madcow, er, Maddow, Lawrence O'Donnell, etc. You are buying into some nonsense.

For one thing, President Trump has finally recognized Jerusalem as Israel's capital, per the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995. No president before him had the cojones to act on that. He did it in the face of being unpopular. But so what? He has the guts to do what's right even if it's unpopular and offends the whiny ass, brain dead, snowflake crowd.

So sure, he's now unpopular with the leftwing goofballs in this country along with the puke bags known as the United Nations.

You didn't ask for advice, but I'll give you some for free. Stop watching the moronic mainstream media with their lefty bias. They give you NO news, just their a@@hole opinions.

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All they did was report what he said and actual footage of him speaking , he already made himself look bad enough remember charlottesville hello?

and how did you explain his 30ish% approval ratings?

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What he said about Charlottesville was completely true, and idiots like you made him repeat himself 3 TIMES over and over, because he wouldn't say the word "nazi".

The first time he addressed, he blamed all sides for it.

Then you cried.

The second time, he condemned the so called "nazis".

Then you still cried.

The third time, he condemned the "alt-left" as a way to finish off his, "all sides" argument.

You cried even louder.


All while this screaming and crying is going on, you people do nothing to help race relations you only alienate yourselves. One woman rammed with a Dodge Charger is still dead, and nothing will bring her back.

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"All they did was report what he said and actual footage of him speaking "

Except when they pull childish crap like reporting that "OMG, he used TWO hands to drink his water". Yes, that was a real moment on CNN last week.

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Wait...that was weird though. Like...really weird. When was the last time you used two hands to take a drink of water?
It wasn't just that he used two hands, it was that he seemed shaky...and that he'd also razed the politician who'd done the exact same thing last year; stopped in the middle of addressing the press to drink some water.
Looking at the footage of that...it was a pretty odd moment and likely indicative of something going on with the guy.

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So what? The only ones who actually do care about this are the religious zealots who believe the Jews will gladly hand them back the Holy Land when the Rapture happens. That is the reason all those presidents didn't recognize Jerusalem because it is also disputed territory. He doesn't have guts. He believes he's doing a great job. He needs constant validation and affirming of dedication. That is symptomatic of a malignant narcissistic personality. No different than Mussolini, Hitler, Peron, Putin and Erdogen. He believes The United States is his to do with what he wants the Constitution be damned. Here in my country our former Prime Minister Stephen Harper wanted to take our country back to before confederacy. That means before 1900. He hated all the human rights Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau worked to put into place in the 70s. He hated that Trudeau brought our own Constitution to home rule away from the Queen and Britain. He wanted to abolish the Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms that includes freedom for woman over their own bodies and medical decisions with their doctors. Freedom for same-sex couples to marry. Rights for Same Sex couples. Rights for the LGBTQ community..... Harper even wanted to take back our Universal Healthcare that had been in place since the 50s thanks to Premiere Tommy Douglas (grandfather of Keifer Sutherland) who said it was a human right to have healthcare. Something the United States can't quite get that all progressive nations have for their citizens.

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Since more people have replied that disagree with than agree, perhaps you're mistaken on your views of his support.

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I agree with the OP.

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Still the minority so far.

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Polling says you're actually in the minority.

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Yeah,the same polling that had Hillary winning by a landslide.

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Nope, the polling in the general election was actually pretty sparse in states like Michigan and Wisconsin that polling firms didn't consider battleground states but which ended up proving pivotal to the election.

The more polling, the more accurate. There's been plenty of polling on trump's approval rating by an aggregate of polling firms. You're in the minority and it's not even close.

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You saying so doesn't make it true. Polls are still frequently inaccurate.

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"Polls are still frequently inaccurate."


lolol. This is such a stunningly ignorant statement because of how wrong it is. Nope, aggregated scientific polling has a high degree of accuracy. The more polling done of a particular demographic, the more accurate. This is a statistical fact that is backed up by the empirical data from election results. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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http://theweek.com/articles/617109/problem-polls

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You're citing an article that lists a few examples of when pollsters got it wrong. You understand right, that it's ridiculous for you to extrapolate from that your claim that "polls are still frequently inaccurate". Sorry but that's just an absurd statement on the face of it when the vast majority of the time they get it right.

For instance, it speaks to how badly polls predicted the Michigan primary when Bernie trounced Hillary. Ok, but that's the only instance when the polls got the primaries wrong. There are 49 other states and 99 other primary contests (Dem and GOP) where the polling was accurate within the statistical margin of error. That just proves my point that scientific polling has a high degree of accuracy.

Pollsters get it wrong from time to time from a LACK of an adequate volume of polling, like in Michigan and Wisconsin during the general election like I cited, or with methodological shortcomings from changing voter profiles over time. That's going to happen, but to characterize polls as "frequently inaccurate" is just blatantly wrong on your part. My point stands.

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Maybe theres more trolls here on this board.

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He is a disgrace! The lowest ratings of any president ever. Why does he have supporters? They must be mentally unbalanced, or just plain ignorant.

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No, I am neither! And neither am I brain dead follower of CNN or MSNBC or the lefties who live in their Manhattan or Los Angeles bubble. Talk about "just plain ignorant!' Your public school government education is showing! I'm guessing from your post you are a touchy, feely blanket hugging, thumb sucking millennial. I hope you are for your sake because the alternative is scary, i.e., a middle aged person who never developed any common sense!

Take your head out of your butt and take a deep breath of fresh air.

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On the contrary, I've been around longer that you think and have seen presidents who were not the greatest but angels compared to Trumpty Dumpty. I have a law degree and am a practicing attorney. Watch your mouth kiddo.

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Ooh, a lawyer. I'm impressed.

Moron.

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So typical of Trump supporters like you to mock education and only make themselves look dumb when they do. Joke's on you kid.

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So typical of libtards to think they're so much smarter than anyone else. Looking down on everyone who doesn't agree with them.

Your attitude has lost you the White House, the Congress, and the Supreme Court. So, by all means, keep it up.

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Had nothing to do with my attitude kid. Had everything to do with Russia and ignorant Americans wanting to see someone who reminded them of themselves in the White House.

It hasn't worked out for any of them seeing how the sunset provisions on middle class tax cuts means they'll bear the brunt of the permanent tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations from the 1.5 trillion hole it blows in the deficit. It's fine for me, though I am bummed at cost he's placing on the country. I'd give it back if he'd resign.

What has he done for you? Nothing. Like I said, the joke's on you for voting for a conman who was never going to bat for your interests because he only cares for himself.

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Hahahaha! Still with the Russian bullshit? You actually dumb enough to believe that? Hillary gives the Russians 20% of our uranium, but Trump's the one colluding with them?

Your ignorance is amazing.

And it seems that the only time Democrats are worried about deficit spending is when a Republican is in the White House. You didn't seem that concerned when Obama raised the deficit more than every president before him combined.

Trump has had a very productive year. If you'd stop listening to the lies of the mainstream media, you'd know that.

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lulz. No, you're admittedly the uneducated one here. It's your ignorance that's stunning. A steady diet of fox news will do that to you.

To say that Trump has had a "productive year" just demonstrates how ignorant you are of how the political process works. Like I said above, by any objective measure even if you are republican, Trump has been a dismal failure when there has been no president in history who has passed so little major legislation in spite of his own party controlling both houses of congress. This is a fact. The only thing he can claim is tax cuts. Did that benefit you? Nope, no it didn't.

FYI: Hilary's not president. You can't impeach her.

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Trump's accomplishments in his first year:

Jobs and the economy
•Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
•Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
•Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
•Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
•A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
•A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
•A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
•Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Killing job-stifling regulations
•Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
•Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
•Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
•Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
•Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.

Fair trade
•Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
•Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
•Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
•Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
•Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
•Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.

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Hilarious propaganda on your part.

GDP growth only hit 3% for ONE QUARTER, the 2nd quarter of 2017, not the entire year. By comparison there were 8 times when Obama hit 3% GDP in quarterly growth.

The fact is that Trump inherited a strong economy that has added jobs for 85 consecutive months, the longest on record. Trump can only claim credit for 10 of those months and he's still got a long way to go to catch up with the 11.3 million jobs his predecessor added.

Using the record highs of the Dow over such a narrow time frame is a fools errand. No serious economist does this since it's not inflation-adjusted and is highly curated because it only measures the best performers in the economy.

It's hard to believe you're listing non-starters like renegotiating NAFTA when he hasn't done shit yet and all indications are that talks aren't going well.

Coal is dead dude. That industry isn't coming back regardless of what Trump does. Withdrawing from the climate agreement is a net fail for the environment and especially because there was no threat of additional environmental regulations if Trump didn't pass any. The climate agreement targets were not hard targets, and the commercial sector overwhelmingly supported the accord.

Apprenticeships? You call that a major accomplishment? Unfortunately, this is not a reality TV show. The stuff you listed is a joke.

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"Hilarious propaganda on your part."

Another libtard denying reality. Color me shocked.

Trump will NEVER get credit from you idiots. But it's amusing to see you go through the gymnastics of denying his accomplishments.

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I just pointed out facts that demonstrated that your cut and paste laundry list is propaganda.

So I appreciate your response that proved you were incapable of responding with logic and facts and had to result with the typical "oooh, you're such a libtard" because that's all you've got.

It's not impressive and all it does is highlight your impotence. ;D

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Thank you. Keep it up. I don't have the energy and wisdom to fight this pox on our country, but I support people like you who fight the good fight. Sincerely yours.

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Thanks. I agree it is tiresome and I admit it's not going to change minds of the firmly entrenched trump cultists. But it's hard for me to just let the outright lies and propaganda slide without calling it out. I can't help myself. :\

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Nope, you used Democrat talking points without providing any evidence to back them up.

I just realized you're the same idiot asking me to provide evidence of YOUR bullshit claims.

Hahahahaha!

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ROFL. Now you're just incoherent. You listed a bunch of propaganda, I pointed out why your propaganda was false. You can easily verify my points by learning how to use google, but your laziness prevents you from doing so.

So hilariously typical of trump supporters who demand proof because they are too lazy or ignorant to know how to educate themselves. That's why all you can do is cut and paste and when challenged on your points with facts you break down because you never learned how to think for yourself.

But I agree, I do find your persistent demands for info so easily obtainable to be comically amusing. Trump supporters have earned their rep of being uneducated. You're exhibit 1A. lulz.

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"You listed a bunch of propaganda, I pointed out why your propaganda was false."

No, you listed a few Democrat talking points without backing them up with evidence. I listed four pages of Trump's accomplishments.

And you pointed out why it was false. HahahahahhaahA!

Idiot.

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lolz. No the idiot is the one who doesn't know how to use google.

In case you're confused, that would be you.

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No, the idiot is the one who makes bullshit claims, then demands that others use Google to prove them.

And that would be you, idiot.

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How would you know it's bullshit when you've already proven you're incapable of using google to verify accuracy?

The truth is, you wouldn't. That's because trumptards believe what they want to believe, they don't care about facts. That's you in a nutshell. Another word for how you should think of yourself is "idiot" as you love to say so often. lolz.

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This is like arguing with a child.

It's simple, when YOU make a claim, it's up to YOU to provide proof of it.

Standard logic. Are you really too fucking stupid to comprehend that?

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LOLOL. Actually no clarence, it's YOU that made the original claims with a bunch of unsupported propaganda that you couldn't back up.

You just used logic that illustrates your own stupidity! I love the self inflicted jujitsu move on yourself. You're doing a great job revealing how unintelligent you truly are. Keep it up!

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" it's YOU that made the original claims with a bunch of unsupported propaganda that you couldn't back up."

I can back up every one of those claims. They're simple statements of fact, things that Trump has done.

Jujitsu! Hahahahahahaha!

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ROTFL! You can't back it up, that's why you didn't.

FYI: Trump saying those things are true doesn't make it true. The man lies a lot. You just prove how stupid you are when you take him at his word.

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"Trump saying those things are true doesn't make it true. "

It's not Trump saying those things.

You can read, right?

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It is Trump saying those things, straight from his press releases.

That's what happens when you're too stupid to read the garbage you cut and paste. That was some funny shit you just pulled thinking of that as your so called 'proof'. WAHAHAHAHH!

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"It is Trump saying those things, straight from his press releases. "

No, it isn't, you fucking moron.

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•Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/17/us-stocks-goldman-sachs-earnings-dow.html

Dow touches 23,000 for the first time, closes at record


Can you really be this stupid?

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I'm clearly talking over your head. Again, what I said:

"Using the record highs of the Dow over such a narrow time frame is a fools errand. No serious economist does this since it's not inflation-adjusted and is highly curated because it only measures the best performers in the economy."

You're going to lose this argument and prove you're the stupid one again since I studied economics and it's obvious you never did. You're just parroting right wing talking points.

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Jobs and the economy
•Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.

Propaganda!

•Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.

Propaganda!

•Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.

Propaganda!

•Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.

Propaganda!

•A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.

Propaganda!

•A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.

Propaganda!

•A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.

Propaganda!

•Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.

Propaganda!

Hahahahahaha!

You really are a fucking moron.

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Was that your way of trying to prove your points true? WAHAHAHAHAHH!

Wow, you're an even bigger imbecile than I thought, I already had a pretty low opinion of you to begin with. You've outdone yourself.

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"Was that your way of trying to prove your points true?"

They're not 'my points'. They're provable facts.

•Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.

Are you actually claiming that's not a fact?

https://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm

Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 3.2 percent in the third quarter of
2017

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What I said:

GDP growth only hit 3% for ONE QUARTER, the 2nd quarter of 2017, not the entire year. By comparison there were 8 times when Obama hit 3% GDP in quarterly growth.

Trump compared annual GDP growth in the Obama era to quarterly GDP growth in a three month period. That's because he's full of shit and spouting propaganda. Like I said, you're repeating his talking point.

http://fortune.com/2017/08/30/donald-trump-springfield-mo-3-gdp/

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Nothing in that statement mentioned annual growth.

Learn to fucking read, you clueless retard.

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Read the citation you tool.

"President Trump compared annual GDP growth in the Obama era to quarterly GDP growth in a three month period. And quarterly GDP often isn’t a good indicator for how much an economy will produce over the year, with quarterly GDP growth often differing significantly from the year’s overall GDP growth."

You're regurgitating Trump's talking points.

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I'm listing Trump's accomplishments. And it's a FACT that the GDP's growth exceeded 3 percent.

This isn't about what Trump compared it to. It's about the facts that have happened in his first year.

I can draw it in crayon for you if it helps.

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Again, read the citation trumptard:

"And quarterly GDP often isn’t a good indicator for how much an economy will produce over the year, with quarterly GDP growth often differing significantly from the year’s overall GDP growth."

What you're calling an accomplishment isn't what you think. You're just too stupid to be having this conversation.

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Holy fuck, are you really this fucking stupid?

Just because you have an opinion that a 3% quarterly growth isn't an accomplishment, doesn't make it a fact.

Did Trump achieve 3% GDP growth? Yes, he did. So that's an accomplishment.

As a libtard, you may not think that's an accomplishment, but your opinion is meaningless.

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I'm not stating an opinion you hapless twit. This is a fact. Once again:

"And quarterly GDP often isn’t a good indicator for how much an economy will produce over the year, with quarterly GDP growth often differing significantly from the year’s overall GDP growth."

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Why can't you comprehend this simple concept?

I'm not claiming anything about it being an indicator. I'm stating a FACT. The GDP grew by more than 3 percent. And that's a good thing.
And an accomplishment.

Like I said, this is like arguing with a retard.

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These are your words:

"I'm listing Trump's accomplishments."

You're apparently too stupid to remember what you said yourself a few posts up.

So let me repeat myself. What you're listing as an accomplishment isn't an accomplishment because of this fact:

"And quarterly GDP often isn’t a good indicator for how much an economy will produce over the year, with quarterly GDP growth often differing significantly from the year’s overall GDP growth."

FYI: If it's not a good indicator of annual growth then it's irrelevant you hapless tool because annual growth is what matters.

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"So let me repeat myself. What you're listing as an accomplishment isn't an accomplishment because of this fact:

"And quarterly GDP often isn’t a good indicator for how much an economy will produce over the year, with quarterly GDP growth often differing significantly from the year’s overall GDP growth."

FYI: If it's not a good indicator of annual growth then it's irrelevant you hapless tool because annual growth is what matters."

Wow. Your stupidity knows no bounds.

"Not a good indicator of annual growth" means you can't use it to predict annual growth. But a one quarter growth of 3% means that a good annual growth is possible, so YES, it is an achievement.

Do you actually think a low GDP for a month is an achievement? You have to have four good months, and having one good one is a step in that process.

That's like saying scoring three runs in an inning isn't a good thing, because that doesn't mean you're going to score three runs in every inning.

Fucking clueless.

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Holy shit. You just revealed Trumptard logic. A quarter is 3 MONTHS you clueless cuckbird, not 4.

And using your baseball analogy, all that matters is the final score.

You are one dumb little boy.

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"And using your baseball analogy, all that matters is the final score."

But according to your dumbass logic, having a good inning isn't an accomplishment.

Fucking retard.

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Not if you lose you dumb fuck, it doesn't mean a damn thing. God explaining things to you is like having to explain things to a down syndrome child. But that's what makes trumptards famous, their belligerent stupidity.

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So if a guy hits five homeruns in a game, that's not an accomplishment unless his team wins?

God, you really can't be this stupid, can you?

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No because it's about who WINS OR LOSES you fucking idiot. If a guy hits 5 home runs and his pitcher gives up ten, he still loses you brain damaged halfwit. Baseball is a team sport, as is politics. It's not about your cult leader, it's about whether the country overall benefits. That's how he will be judged you colossal imbecile. Jesus you trumptards are such hilarious fucking idiots.

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Your really are an idiot. If you followed baseball at all, and had a brain, you'd know that they also give out individual awards for achievements. That's why they keep individual records.
But you're too fucking stupid to understand that.

So yeah, if I guy hits five homeruns in a game, that's an achievement, regardless of the final score.

Please tell me you're joking, and you really can understand this simple concept.

Fucking clown.

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WAHAHAHAHAHAHA! How could you be so stupid to not know baseball is a team sport? God what the fuck happened to you?

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So, let's recap here, since my point's obviously been made, and I have no reason to keep arguing with this nitwit.

You said this:

"What has he done for you? Nothing."

So I gave you a loooong list of things he's done for me, and you respond by saying you disagree with those things.

No shit, Sherlock. Of course you disagree with them. You're a fucking libtard. Of course you're going to disagree with things conservatives do.

But he did those things for me, which is what you asked.

So yeah, you're so fucking stupid I'm surprised you're able to still breathe.

I'll allow you to bather on in your stupidity.

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Holy shit how many times do I have to spell it out. THIS IS NOT MY FUCKING OPINION YOU DUMB BUFOON.
This IS A FACT.

I quote:

"And quarterly GDP often isn’t a good indicator for how much an economy will produce over the year, with quarterly GDP growth often differing significantly from the year’s overall GDP growth."

See that you dipshit? What that means is that you can draw no conclusions about who wins or loses based on GDP growth for ONE QUARTER. That's because industries are HIGHLY CYCLICAL based on seasons and will add or remove jobs that AREN'T PERMANENT! That's why no conclusions can be drawn until the year is done. You desperately need an education about what GDP is an economic indicator of, your baseball analogy is too simple to capture it for your simpleton uneducated mind. Like I said, you're too stupid to be having this conversation that you're going to lose because you have no idea what you're talking about. You're trying to argue out of your league.

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I'm providing independent sources for these FACTS. Why are you ignoring my links?

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•The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.

http://fortune.com/2017/10/25/trump-oil-drilling-gulf-of-mexico/

On Tuesday, the administration announced that it will sell leases for nearly 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling—the largest offering ever.

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Yeah that's one of his failures. I don't consider destroying the environment by opening up lands to be mined of fossil fuels to be an accomplishment. I do consider transitioning the economy to one that is uses renewable energy sources not dependent upon a limited fuel source and that doesn't destroy the environment to be an accomplishment, which Trump has not done.

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"Yeah that's one of his failures"

Hahahahaha! Elections have consequences, dipship. So you liberal morons don't get to make the rules.
This is definitely an accomplishment, and will result in even more jobs that Trump creates.
This is definitely one of Trump's accomplishments.

So, let me recap. Just because you disagree with it, doesn't mean it isn't an accomplishment.
Fucking arrogant asshole.

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•Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

•Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

•Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

•Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

•Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

•Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

•Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

•Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

•Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

•Added some 100 new immigration judges.

eYeDEF doesn't agree with it, so it's not an accomplishment.

What a fucking joke you are.

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Russian interference has consequences dipshit, yeah I know that. We're all suffering the consequences.

I'm just pointing out the fact that what you listed above that you consider accomplishments are only accomplishments for you and your trump cult. It's your lowly opinion. Long term damage to the environment is real and irreversible you dumb fuck. This country is great in part because of the contributions of immigrants, just look at how many of the tech startups of today were started by immigrants or the children of recent immigrants. Of course trumptards like you find that threatening because you're too stupid and uneducated to get a job, but that's partially your fault and partially your parent's fault.

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Translation: Unless I think an accomplishment is good, it's not an accomplishment.

Your arrogance is noted.

Were you dropped on your head as a baby?

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Nope, I dropped facts on you because I base my opinion on facts and superior reasoning. You are incapable of disputing facts and speak purely from your ignorant opinion. That's the problem with you trumptards. You ignore facts and think your opinion has validity when it doesn't.

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I posted a long list of facts, and you stupidly thought they were Trump quotes. Anyone reading this can see who the idiot here is.

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Nope. You posted your opinion that pulling out of the climate accord was some sort of "achievement". I replied with facts that it was no achievement at all it was a failure because of the FACT that environmental damage is permanent and irreversible, that there would be no additional environmental regulations anyway since trump is already president and he wasn't going to pass any, and also that the accords did not contain HARD TARGETS! These are FACTS that destroy your propaganda that the climate accord would have threatened additional regulations on the economy. I cite fact, you cite fiction. That's why my opinion is superior, because it's BASED IN FACT. YOURS IS BASED IN YOUR FALSE AND UNEDUCATED ASSUMPTIONS.

I also pointed out that recent immigrants are part of what has made this country great. THIS IS A FACT! They are willing and capable of doing jobs Americans can't or won't do. Restricting immigration is highly damaging because we obviously can't depend on talentless idiots like you to keep this country going. You think restricting immigration helps you because you think less competition will better help you find a job. But that is just YOUR OPINION ONLY and it's not supported by the fact that you aren't going to find a job because you're simply TOO STUPID. It's really sad you won't put the country first instead of your selfish dreams that you're too dumb to know you'll never realize.

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•Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-scoreboard-shows-17-million-new-jobs-created-during-presidency-2017-12-08

After release of the November jobs report, the U.S. has added 1.7 million total jobs since Donald J. Trump took the oath of office. The median jobs growth of 208,000 per month is the strongest for a president since Trump's wedding guest Bill Clinton was in office[/quote]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/08/the-economy-added-228000-jobs-in-november-unemployment-at-4-1-percent/?utm_term=.0801154dd87a

[quote]The economy added 228,000 jobs in November, unemployment at 4.1 percent

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Again, what I said:

"the fact is that Trump inherited a strong economy that has added jobs for 85 consecutive months, the longest on record. Trump can only claim credit for 10 of those months and he's still got a long way to go to catch up with the 11.5 million jobs his predecessor added."

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES0000000001?output_view=net_1mth

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"he's still got a long way to go to catch up with the 11.5 million jobs his predecessor added."

11.5 million over 8 years. That's only 1.4 million a year. Trump has 1.7 in his first year.

Again, math isn't your strong suit, is
it?

And once again, 1.7 million new jobs is an ACCOMPLISHMENT, no matter how stupidly you want to spin it.

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WAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

You're one too stupid to know that adding 1.7 million jobs in one year isn't even remotely as impressive as adding 11.5 million jobs over 8 years. Sustaining growth over 8 years is difficult.

God you're stupid.

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"You're one too stupid to know that adding 1.7 million jobs in one year isn't even remotely as impressive as adding 11.5 million jobs over 8 years. Sustaining growth over 8 years is difficult."

Well, I know that I can do math, and 1.7 times 8 is 13.6. So Trump is on track to do better than Obama.

That's an accomplishment, no matter how much you stomp your feet and hold your breath.

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No it's not you uneducated tool because he's only 12.5% done of 8 years in office. That leaves plenty of time for his disastrously short sighted tax policy to create a bubble and crash the economy before he gets anywhere close to 11.5 mil jobs.

Could you really be this dumb? I think you are.

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"That leaves plenty of time for his disastrously short sighted tax policy to create a bubble and crash the economy before he gets anywhere close to 11.5 mil jobs."

Once again, that's just your opinion. Your opinion doesn't cancel out his achievements.

Fucking moron.

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God your mom must have dropped you on your head a bunch of times for you to be this dumb.

It's not an "achievement" to sit around and play golf while the strong economy that he inherited continued to rise over 10 whole months. That tells us nothing because he's "achieved" nothing except act like an idiot. I'll tell you what is an achievement. Inheriting the biggest recession since the Great Depression and directly turning it around by passing major legislation. Now that's an achievement.

You really are a stupendous idiot.

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"God your mom must have dropped you on your head a bunch of times for you to be this dumb."

Now you're stealing my insults? Have some creativity and pride, dude.

And yeah, no libtard is going to give Trump credit for ANYTHING. So your denial of his accomplishments just makes me laugh.

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•A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/27/news/economy/us-consumer-confidence/index.html

U.S. consumer confidence remains near 17-year high

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Trump's accomplishments in his first year (cont):

Boosting U.S. energy dominance
•The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
•Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
•Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
•Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
•EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.

Protecting the U.S. homeland
•Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end "chain migration," which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
•Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
•Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
•Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
•Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
•Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
•Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
•Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
•Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
•Added some 100 new immigration judges.

Protecting communities
•Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
•Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.
•Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
•Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
•Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.

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Trump's accomplishments in his first year (cont):

Accountability
•Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
•Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
•Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
•Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
•Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.

Combatting opioids
•First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
•His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
•The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
•Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.
•Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
•The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
•On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.

Protecting life
•In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
•Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
•Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.

Helping veterans
•Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
•Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
•Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
•Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
•Created a VA hotline.

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Trump's accomplishments in his first year (cont):

Promoting peace through strength
•Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.
•Worked to increase defense spending.
•Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
•Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.
•Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
•Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders.
•Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security.
•Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
•Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons.
•Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
•NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
•Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.
•Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.
•Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
•Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela.

Restoring confidence in and respect for America
•Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders.
•Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
•Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to promote America

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"FYI: Hilary's not president. You can't impeach her. "

Don't want to impeach her. I want her to go to jail, the place where you or I would be if we did what she did.

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Russia's interference lost us the White House. Get your true facts straight and get out of Kellyann's 'alternate reality'.

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"Russia's interference lost us the White House"

Hahahahahaha! Now you're sounding like Hillary.

Can you please explain, specifically, how Russian interference swung the election?

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lolz. If you're not aware of all the ways Russia influenced the election that have been reported non-stop this past year then all you're doing is showcasing your profound ignorance.

And no, sticking your fingers in year ears screaming lalalala and calling it fake news as trump likes to do doesn't make it fake. It just demonstrates you're delusional and in denial like he is.

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"lolz. If you're not aware of all the ways Russia influenced the election that have been reported non-stop this past year then all you're doing is showcasing your profound ignorance."

So that would be a 'no', you can't explain how Russian interference swung the election.

Just as I thought.

Moron.

By the way, don't think I didn't notice your subtle change from 'swung' to 'influence'. Dishonest piece of shit.

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lolz. All I can do is shake my head and laugh at your profound ignorance. I'd suggest www.google.com to get yourself informed. Learn how to use a search engine and not read fake news instead of begging me to spoonfeed you the answers. I have more productive things to do.

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I googled it and all I found were crybaby liberals throwing out accusations,but nothing on Google showed any evidence of Russian involvement. Please inform me of this proven Russian involvement.

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Jesus are you serious? I wasn't talking about using google to search message boards. I'm talking about using google news search engine news.google.com or even the generic search to find all the investigative reporting yourself. The Russians were involved on 3 fronts that have been reported on endlessly this past year.

1)They hacked into American political organizations, most notably the DNC and Clinton campaign, stole data from those sources, and strategically fed that information back to the US public in order to swing the election for Trump. I work in network forensics, so I'm quite familiar with the analysis published over a year ago by 5 independent cybersecurity firms in the private sector that were given access to the raw data dumps from the DNC hacks. Their conclusions were unanimous in matching the unique digital signatures of two Russian hacking groups well known in my industry to be fronts for the FSB and Russian GRU. (CrowdStrike, Fidelis Cybersecurity, Mandiant, ThreatConnect, and SecureWorks) You can find their reports on their company websites yourself using google.

2) The second was a sophisticated intensive propaganda effort powered by Russian troll farms in social media but also in Russian state controlled traditional media websites like RT and Sputnik that cater to American audiences. A key report in Time magazine back in May documented how extensive this op was, involving the creation and distribution of fake news about Clinton pushed out on Russian media mouthpieces like RT and Sputnik and also fake news sites created by Russian operatives working in what's now known as "troll farms". These fake stories were able to gain traction because of armies of fake twitter and facebook accounts controlled by Russian bots that would use those accounts to 'like' these articles. Search engines like facebook, google, yahoo use algorithms to determine which stories to feature prominently in their news sections based on number of 'likes'. The fake stories would headline side by side with legit stories and by the time it was corrected and taken down the damage had already been done. About 5x more eyeballs were exposed to the fake stories than the corrections. The Russian link to these fake accounts has all been since confirmed by the social media companies that were subpoenaed.

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3) The Russians went after state and local election systems and targeted voter registration rolls and voting machines. This was exposed when a top secret NSA report was leaked in June to the Intercept. We know the voting infrastructure and data of 21 states were compromised based on reports from Homeland Security. What we don't know yet is the extent of how much they directly affected vote tallies. Unfortunately, unlike online data that can be examined and verified by private sector security analysts in my field as in the first two instances, examining state voting machines and voter rolls would require a federal investigation of Russian tampering that Trump has so far refused to even acknowledge ever happened in spite of all the evidence his intel heads have presented to him otherwise.

Are you a retired expat in some remote part of the world?

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Do your own homework - if you haven't been following all along, Google it and see what you come up with. We're not here to educate idiots like you.

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"Do your own homework"

It's not my job to research your dumbass claims. Back it up with some facts.

You can't because there isn't any evidence the Russians 'swung' the election. Fucking moron.

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"It's not my job to research your dumbass claims. Back it up with some facts."

You asked for an explanation of how Russia hacked the election - do your own homework.
It's not our job to educate you on a public forum. If you can't keep up with the conversation, catch up on your own time.

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"You asked for an explanation of how Russia hacked the election"

No, I asked you how Russia SWUNG the election. That was your dumbass claim. It's obvious you can't back it up with evidence, since I've asked you to do it several times, and you keep telling me it's my job to come up with evidence for your bullshit claims.

What a fucking moron.

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Again, I'm not going to do your homework for you - you do your research on your time, and you will find enough evidence to back it up. I'm not here to give you a history lesson.

Are you really that dumb that you can't do your own research? You must be - T-rump likes'em dumb and uneducated.

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"Again, I'm not going to do your homework for you"

Wow. What a complete imbecile. YOU made the claim. It's up to YOU to back it up

It's completely obvious you can't back it up with evidence, and now you're trying to squirm off the hook.

Fucking moron.

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Again, not here to teach the "dumb and uneducated" like you. Sorry!

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slimone- well if you have been around as long as you say, then why do you come across as a delicate millennial? Have you not grown a thicker skin or learned how to separate the wheat from the chaff? With years usually comes common sense. Why call everyone who disagrees with your way of thinking "mentally unbalanced"? I am quite balanced, thank you.

And FYI- I've seen a lot of Presidents too. It actually depresses me to think how many Presidencies I have lived through. I don't feel that old.
A "practicing attorney". Well I give you credit for staying in school. But it was obviously a liberal thinking university.

I used to hold doctors and lawyers in such high esteem. But I was once married to a doctor and good friends with a lawyer, and aside from their degrees, I found out that professionals in both fields can be as uninformed and ignorant as everyone else.

Actually at my age being called "kiddo" is a compliment! It is offensive to paint everyone who disagrees with you with such a broad brush! Didn't they teach you that in law school?

My lawyer friend used to say that they were taught, "If the law is on your side, argue that. If precedent is on your side, argue that. If neither are on your side, just argue."

I think you have that last one down cold! But seriously, I don't want to be a total jerk in this holiday season. But your labeling of all Trump supporters is rather insulting.

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I believe they're not just ignorant and uninformed, but belligerently proud of being uneducated. It really speaks to the failure of public education in the US now. It's such a shame.

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Agreed with everything you've said eYe. They're proud of their ignorance and lack of education (especially pjpurple).Trump said "I like'em uneducated" and his army of uneducated Americans stood behind him.

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Oh Doggie-doo, your cute little sneak attacks are so unbecoming of someone with your intellect!! If I am so "uneducated", then why don't you come out from hiding and address me directly? Ha ha, because either you can't or you won't. Not sure if it is your cowardice or lack of education. But you never answer any of my questions. You ignore them and put your government "education" on display with your name calling. That's what passes for intelligent debate in your little world.

Don't knock "ignorance and lack of education". How else would Obama and Hillary have garnered so many votes?

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You honestly can't understand that people have political opinions that differ from yours?

Are you twelve?

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not political opinions that defy morals and logic

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You mean liberal morals and logic.

Which is an oxymoron.

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Simple - dumb people love when people as dumb as themselves have money and power. It makes them feel accomplished. That's why reality shows are so popular. Also, there is this thing called projection - when hardcore sports fans who are grossly overweight and sit on their lazy asses all day cheer for athletes and their victories. They think that being a fan of a wining team is somehow their win as well.

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Or dumbasses who sit around posting their political opinions on internet message boards, and think they're smarter than businessmen who've actually done something with their lives and made billions of dollars.

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HAHA, two thumbs up there SnagsWolf!!

I will admit that there are a lot of dumb people in power though. Just go on youtube and listen to any speeches that Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee gives. I would love to know the average I.Q. of the voters in her district. Must be the dumbest voting for the dumbest. But, hey, they are happy!

Actually I love when people like Ms. Jackson Lee and California's Maxine Waters talk. They are funnier than most stand-up comedians, unintentionally though ! LOL And the left accuses Trump voters of being dumb??? HA!

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Just as I expected - "he made billions of dollars, so he is a great businessman". Well, lots of criminals make billions of dollars, acquiring wealth doesn't mean that they make the society better. Just like a movie making billions of dollars doesn't make it a great movie.

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Well i'll give you that, lots of crooks become wealthy, just look at Congress and the Clintons. Hillary's wealth was made thorugh selling out America to the highest foreign bidder, rather unlike President Trump who actually employed people and paid a lot of payroll taxes.

"Just as I expected"- leftwing kneejerk comments. Folks like Hillary and the other democrats were GOOD buddies with Trump when he was filling up their coffers with donations. If he had run as Hildabeast's Vice Presidential pick, you'd all be LOVING him, ya bunch of hypocrites.

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I'm not a Hillary supporter either. Most of the politicians in the US arena are crooks and con-artists. All they want is money and power. They don't give a shit about regular people.

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So true about politicians. My problem is really not with my fellow citizens who are being screwed over just as badly as I am. What I really loathe are the "newscasters" who are supposed to report the truth but in reality cheerlead for Hillary and the rest of the crooks on the left. Did you see their tearstained, sad faces on the night of the election when they realized that their favorite witch had lost?

Yet they have attacked and sabotaged President Trump from that day forward. They haven't given him a shred of respect. They have sabotaged him from the get go because he doesn't fit in with their twisted leftard thinking. And by doing so, they manage to mislead and poison a lot of people's minds. But of course that was their selfish goal all along.
I love the way he calls them "fake news" and doesn't give a rat's rear end if he hurts their delicate feelings. I know their a@@es are chapped from all the butt kissing they get from the left wing politicians, but surprise(!) Trump aint playing their game. He is too rich to give a sh#$ about what they think. I am loving it!

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That's what happens when the media is privately owned. They just do what they are told by their owners. Nothing more, and nothing less. Only a true independent journalist tells the truth. But alas, the truth is not profitable, and they need money for living...

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And just because you claim a billionaire hasn't made society better, doesn't make it a fact. The truth is, you hate Trump because he won the election, so you'll never give him any credit for anything.
So your opinion of him is basically meaningless to me. Just more of the same whining coming from Democrats for the past year.

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This is so true, footlegger. These idiots think that Trumpty's being rich and powerful make them rich and powerful. The only thing they have in common with him is his ignorance and stupidity.

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Since you seem to be a Hillary fan, I would be careful about throwing around accusations like "idiots, ignorance and stupidity". That's what that witch was banking on to get her into the White House.

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And trump was banking on his help from the Russians, and the "i like them dumb" supporters he has.

Yet Hillary won the popular vote by 3 Million more votes.

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And the popular vote is meaningless in our elections. Perhaps you shouldn't have fallen asleep in Civics class.

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I was awake when we were taught it is unlawful for a Presidential candidate and their team to collude with the Russian government to hack our elections, and make the popular vote 'meaningless in our elections'. Too bad Trump's followers were asleep for that lesson.

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I would be more impressed with the popular vote if it were spread out more, but its clustered votes in parts of the country, a good reason for the electoral college to exist by itself. Why campaign across the country when all you have to do is convince a few high population areas that will re enforce the message by merely being so population dense? Oddly enough the electoral college is something you would think democrats would like since it allows the representation of the entire country rather than ceding control to the high pop cities elites.

As for the rest, no one gives the hacked election thing any credibility on either side. As far as inappropriate contact with Russians again an anti Trump investigator is struggling to find anything of value in that either.

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Yes, the Russian collusion that's taken over a year to prove.

I know Russia made ME vote.

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And they're moving even closer to getting him. How does America know? Trump went on a Twitter rage over the weekend, referencing FOX NEWS and calling the FBI 'tainted'. He also targeted Comey, McCabe, McCabe's wife, Baker, and of course - Hillary Clinton.

Let's throw everything out there and divert attention from what's really happening in America. At least the FOX sheeple will be diverted.

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STILL waiting for evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians. After a year and a half of accusations, not one single shred of evidence.

On the other hand, Hillary approved the sale of 20% of our uranium to Russia, and then got back donations to her foundation in return. Obama told Russia to wait until after the election in 2012 when he would be more 'flexible'. And Obama also made fun of Romney during the debate for claiming that Russia was a danger in the world. His actual quote was, "The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back."

Clip of the quote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS2a44F5TgM

Now you idiots are claiming that Russian is the biggest threat to this country, and that Trump is in Putin's pocket. With all evidence pointing to the opposite.

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"Now you idiots are claiming that Russian is the biggest threat to this country, and that Trump is in Putin's pocket. With all evidence pointing to the opposite."

You mean, all the FOX NEWS evidence presented by Sean Insanity and the Goliath of public broadcasting - FOX & Friends. Keep watching FOX....that's your 'safe place'.

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FOX NEWS!

The libtards' mating call.

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FOX NEWS - The Rethuglicans Bible.

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No, actually MY Bible is the NAB, The New American Bible. A good friend of mine who is a Fundamentalist gave me a gift of a King James Bible. It's nice, but it is missing seven books from the Old Testament.

How can FOX news be a Bible? A Bible is a book. Fox news is a TV SHOW! Surely even you with your limited leftwing intelligence can tell the difference between a BOOK and a SHOW! LOL

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Oooh- wee! Thank You for reminding me you're a 'devout Catholic'! I never believed you then and I still don't believe you now. Just for the record...

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Hi Doggie doo---- "Ooooh- wee!" I thank the Lord that he is not quite as judgmental as the average leftard! LOL But where did I claim to be "devout" in my post? A lot of people have Bibles in their home, but they don't read them or attend church regularly. However I do attend church regularly if for no other reason than to pray for the left in this country.

But thanks for keeping your "record" straight. It is nice to know how you remember all the details of our past exchanges. It really is! Nuthin worse than being forgotten...

It's a good thing I don't have to rely on your belief in me. I'd be in pretty deep $h#t if that was the case. But people like you believe in Hillary. That's so cute!

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Libtards think that just saying 'FOX News' is an argument. That's because when they're among fellow libtards, they all nod like magpies when FOX News is mentioned, because they're all in full denial of any point of view that is different from thiers.

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Snagswolf- They don't say "FOX News", they say Faux News, just to demonstrate how they "speak" French (although their grasp on English is tenuous).

A different viewpoint is not allowed in the world of the lefty. They are correct and everyone else is wrong.

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"A different viewpoint is not allowed in the world of the lefty. "

Is that what the right is calling their "alternate facts" these days?

'A different viewpoint' ? LOL!

Please, stick with 'alternate facts' and we lefties will stick with the truth.

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Doggie doo is at it again!!! Trying to sound intelligent while not playing with a full deck.

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"we lefties will stick with the truth."

You mean the 'truth' where Trump is about to be impeached any day now?

Now that's funny.

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Yes, that truth.

He's gearing up his 'smear campaign' against Flynn, when Flynn starts singing like a canary.

You remember Flynn, don't you? He was one of Trump's favorite people - "really terrific guy - very honorable man" according to Trump when he asked him to join his top administration, until he flipped like a greasy cheeseburger. Now Trump is ready to call him a liar.

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You're going to be waiting a very long time.

Hahahahahahaha!

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It's worth the wait. Good things come to those who wait. It's nice to see T-rump and his family stew while Comey takes his time (looks like T-rump's lawyers didn't get the answer they were hoping for at their meeting with Comey last week! LOL).

Timing is everything - will he do the perp walk from the golf course at Mar Lago, Trump Towers, Air Force One, or the White House? Probably not the White House - he's hardly ever there.

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Did you rub one out while typing that?

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Much to your disappointment, no.

Now school vacation's over - back to the 10th grade for you. Share your fantasies with the other nerds in the locker room.

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You're sharing your masturbational fantasies.

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She didn't win the Electoral College though! Thank the Lord and thanks to our Founding Fathers who had the wisdom to put that system in place. Gee, you think one of them had a premonition about a witch named Hillary who would run for President and almost fool the dumbed down masses?

Russia? Got a problem with that? Your hero Obama told Russian President Medvedev in 2012, (not realizing it was a hot mic), "After my election, I have more flexibility." Seems like Barry O was willing to bend over and grab the ankles for the Russians (but I think that was his favorite position anyway, from all the rumors I heard). So now Russia is our biggest enemy?

3 million more votes? Yeah in California and New York, the land of the leftwing and the illegal alien voters.

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"3 million more votes? Yeah in California and New York, the land of the leftwing and the illegal alien voter"

LOL! So let's not count California and New York? You still like to show the world how dumb you are.

"So now Russia is our biggest enemy?"

You need a history lesson. You really do. And please take your savior T-rump to class with you.

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Oh c'mon, doggie, of course California and New York count! Just not all the illegals who get to vote there!

My point, which you so "cleverly" sidestepped with the democrat two step, is that those states have large concentrations of the population (and today they are mostly leftwing).
Our Founders in their wisdom, (a quality you have in short supply) ha ha!!!, recognized the dangers inherent with having a few highly populated states dictate to the rest of the country.

Here's a stat for you who loves to throw numbers around in your "you can't make this stuff up" category, Donald trump won 2.600 counties compared to the 500 that Hillary Clinton won. Her wins were concentrated in those liberal bastions like California and New York.
Once again, for the slow to comprehend, yes their votes count, but they do not get to dictate to the majority of the country.

Russia? So if it is our biggest enemy why was Pres. Obama sucking up to the Russian President (and getting caught on a hot mic while doing it?)

As for "history" read up on the late Teddy Kennedy's attempt to sabotage Reagan's re-election with his deal with the Soviet Union. But of course that is something you will ignore.

Take a "history lesson"? I will if you will. HA! Somewhere deep down in your delusional lefty soul you must realize that you have big gaps in your understanding of history. So let's sign up for a history course together and see who gets a better grade (hint: it won't be you, unless of course we happen to get some bedwetting lefty professor)

"Showing the world" how dumb I am??? The only dumb thing I am doing is talking to you! #chuckle# I doubt if "the world" cares what I think. You and your friends on the left however, seem to think your "wisdom" is God's gift to the world.

So, how ya been since IMDB shut us down? Where's your pal Hester these days? I do so miss her paranoid rantings.

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T-rump won 2,600 counties with the help of Russia. Why don't you post the truth?

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Oh gee Doggie doo--- That's all ya got? Russia? I would have expected more from you and your arsenal of fake statistics.

Oh the truth? Yes, I forgot to mention those Russian soldiers who came to my door on election day and marched me to my polling place at gunpoint so I'd vote for Trump!!!

My questions is, have you gone off your meds? And you didn't answer any other of my questions. Why? Are you mad at me? LOL

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I can't believe he seriously thinks Trump won because of Russia...

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But he does, he does!! And so do the other Democrats. How else can it be explained that the American people did not fall on their knees at the prospect of a Hillary regime, er, Presidency?

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I can't believe his sheeple thinks he won on his own.

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I didn't vote for him, so you can keep the sheeple to yourself. Its just an absurd assertion. Its fantasy land stuff. He won the electoral college, something that is well within the possibility of occurring when Clinton, a candidate who was not exactly loved by her own party, ran a fairly lazy campaign and thought she had it in the bag because it was Trump rather than someone like Cruz or Bush. She was wrong and should have realized when she was struggling against Sanders that she needed to do more.

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For the simple reason that any politician has supporters: He represents them. You may not agree with him and that's fine. People are going way overboard with the name calling and accusations. Grow up, and vote against him and his party if he bothers you so much. If you're not an American Citizen, then tough luck. It's not your decision.

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The sad thing is he doesn't represent them at all. He talks out both sides of his mouth and I can't fathom how so many people just ignore it and love him. Just baffling to me.

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Your comment describes every politician who ever lived. It's what politicians do.

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Once you are in office, its about staying in office.

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Yep. Just look at every politician who ever lived. Oh well. It's stupid to talk politics on a movie forum. Go find a movie and relax.

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Can you tell me a politicians name who doesn't do this?

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The only honest politicians are the ones who are serving time in a federal prison.

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