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Watching the NetFlix Documentary


The mystery of good mixed with evil is aparent.

Jimmy did a lot of good for charities etc, and yet at the same tie, was a depraved sex monster.

Just goes to show, people are not black and white. They are complicated.

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Its not complicated. A lot, if not all, of the “good” things he did gave him access to his victims. Being philanthropic does not make you a good person. It does however provide an evil person with a cloak of “goodness.”

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No, I don't buy that.

He raised millions for people with spinal injuries; built them a hospital.

Its more complicated than just he did all that to get access to young women.

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SteveG is correct and no offence but you sound a bit naive. Raising millions for charity and building hospitals gave him power, he became "untouchable" as far as the Police and public were concerned. It gave him unrestricted access to vulnerable patients who he abused, and would plant massive seeds of doubt if any concerns were raised. His high profile charity work gave him access to the Royal Family and to the Prime Ministers of the time, he was rubbing shoulders with the most powerful people in the country. That's partly why most of his victims of the time remained silent, who would believe their word against a celebrity who had raised millions for charity and was friends with Charles and Diana and Thatcher?

Rolf Harris was similar, although on a smaller scale. He even produced and released an educational programme to show children what kind of "touching" was wrong, and how to respond to unwanted advances from adults. All the while he was abusing his daughter's friend. There was nothing "good" about Savile, the works he did was for his benefit and to make him untouchable so he could carry on his depraved lifestyle, not to benefit sick children.

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You are either stupid or you are a psychopath, connie93.

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Is that how you respond to anyone who disagrees with you?

Jimmy was raised Catholic; his charitable work might havae been born of seeking redemption.

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Pretty sure he knew quite well that throwing a few quid to charity out of his millions would make a perfect smokescreen to enable his pederasty to continue.

In my hometown we had a beloved local personality who was on TV from the early 70s to the early 2010s. He was a pillar of the community and raised millions for assorted youth charities. They even named a part of the Children's Hospital after him.

However, literally everyone in town had a rumor or a story about him molesting young boys. I used to see him at rock concerts, always with a teenage boy or two. His best friend and chauffeur was arrested at a downtown hotel, naked and chasing a teenage girl down the hall with a rape kit of knife, rope, lube etc. Nothing ever stuck to the celebrity and he died of cancer and is still honored to this day.

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He did it to young boys too, are you paying attention? I watched the same doc you did. Its not complicated. Evil is as evil does. Its not complicated to understand or interpret. But hey you believe what you want.

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Joe Biden was also credibly accused of raping Tara Reade; does that mean his entire career has been about getting close to women? Does that cancel all the good he might have done in his life?

It is complicated.

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Joe Biden is another p.o.s. Im sorry Connie its not complicated, your mind is. Please tell me about your parents and your childhood. I will help you with your dilemma.

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I agree with Connie that people and life are almost always a mix of complications.

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thank you

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I agree with you Connie

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Interestingly, many don´t see Jimmy Saville´s good deeds as good because they are tainted by his sexual sins. And yet, when the God of the Bible judges us the way we judge someone like Jimmy Saville, its considered "unfair".

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Defending a pedophile 🙄 Now why does that sound strangely familiar?

You really should try harder if you want your multiple personalities to go undetected “Connie”.

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I don't use other acccounts. I'm a newbie here. I was once on IMDB tho!

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And yet in GD you claimed that you had been here for years. It must be hard keeping track of all your socks.

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She tried to accuse our beloved Jerry Seinfeld of pedophilia.

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She is a he and is a well known troll.

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Perhaps there is a penis there, but I visualize Connie93 as s woman and I shall continue to use feminine pronouns with her.

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Unfortunately, he’d probably get off on that.

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Wow you're stupidly naive or a troll.

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100% troll.

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Someone in the documentary explained these two sides of him. He said ‘You can’t understand Jimmy without also understanding his Catholic beliefs”. Catholics believe they have to atone for their sins. Jimmy thought as long as he did one thing good for every bad thing then he had a 50/50 chance of salvation. He even admitted to keeping some sort of mental tab of debits and credits of sins/good deeds that he would show St. Peter at the pearly gates. Demented.

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I hope that for his sake, he did repent of his sins before he died. Eternity is an awfully long time to spend in hell! But from what I know of his sadistic, evil depravities, I would say he IS in hell. But God only knows.

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If he got saved before death, being a public figure, he would have admitted his wrongdoing. He is in hell for sure.

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There is NO heaven nor hell. There is only oblivion.

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Might as well commit whatever evil satisfies you while you have the chance then!

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Disgusting creature. I hope he is suffering and rotting in hell.

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We really need to let go of childish ideas about the hereafter.

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Calling it childish won´t exculpate you.

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You are a boil on the butt of humanity.

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People like him and Michael Jackson gets do good deeds and create a persona of purity because they know it will get them closer to what they want and they know the fame and money will keep the cops away.

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By the other posts it looks like this documentary if you want to even call it that has done what it wanted paint a very biased picture this is something netflix do very well.

It is all one sided you have a man who has been deceased for over a decade now and lets go back to when the first reports came in he was dead.

I know people with influence and this guy didnt have the power these people are claiming the other problem is it's one side of the story with the man being found guilty by the media and the public not real evidence when this happens no one is going to defend him they would be destroyed as well.

Interesting that he was such an awful person doing these terrible things yet people was happy to take his money etc.

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*ANY* good he did for charities, and, remember, a lot of these were *children's* charities, was completely obliterated by the countless number of children he sexually abused. 😠

It's not like he cured cancer or helped bring about a truce in some war-torn part of the world (not that either of these things would be a defence/mitigation for abusing children). The 'good' he did is inextricably connected, and thus ENTIRELY overshadowed by his evil. It's akin to someone raising money for BLM, and then going out at night lynching Black people.

The same applies to Rolf Harris. Apparently he was on a breakfast show during the 80s where he was ironically highlighting a campaign to protect children from sexual predators, advising them to effectively 'just say no' to any adult who tried to touch them. What good is such advice if men like Harris end up committing the very abuses they're supposedly trying to 'protect' children from?

It makes me wonder that all the money Savile raised was simply a front to shield him from any criticism/concern regarding his 'nocturnal activities,' in which case, that money is effectively *toxic*.

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