have surgery to remove the limbs they don't want? BID is "a disorder characterized by a desire to be disabled or having discomfort with being able-bodied beginning in early adolescence and resulting in harmful consequences." If trans people are encouraged to take hormones and have things add/removed from their bodies, wouldn't this be the same type of thing?
shareNo one can answer this?
shareIn a few years we will look back on gender transitioning as a barbaric practice and medical science will fix this issue with other means as it's brain based.
shareI can't answer it because I agree with you.
shareBecause it isn't politically useful...
shareThat's exactly my point. it would be insane to tell someone to cut off a limb because they think they would be better without it. We're allowed to tell people who have Body Integrity Identity Disorder they have a psychological problem. But bring sexuality into it? Nope. That's mean.
shareNever thought of it that way. But I believe you're right.
shareIts not a sexuality though.
shareSo why have the WHO decided to move transgender health issues out of their "mental and behavioral disorders" section and into their "sexual health" section?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-48448804
The same WHO that denied any involvement of China, regarding Covid.
One answer....................Money.
What I meant is that gender identity and sexual orientation are separate things. People sometimes mix them together.
shareBecause amputation debilitates a person while gender confirmation surgery removes a useless organ and has been clinically shown to improve the lives of people with gender dysphoria. Your question is more akin to asking why we help and encourage obese people to lose weight but decide it isn't good to help anorexic people lose weight. Being thinner or losing limbs doesn't actually improve the lives of these people and actively harms them.
shareI don't think the word "useless" means what you think it does.
shareCan you live without it? Men are always obsessed with their penises but many women have suffered hysterectomies under male oppression and still carried on with normal lives.
shareOh wow, so you're crazy...
shareYou do know what a wandering womb is right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wandering_womb
Or what Hysterical (Hysterical, of the Greek translation 'hysterika,' which meant 'that which proceeds from the uterus') means right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_hysteria
You do know the history of the vibrator, which was created because male attendants molested women as some way of "curing" this disease right
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20181107-the-history-of-the-vibrator
Just because you can live without it, doesn't make it useless. You can live without your arms and legs, too.
shareBut your arms and legs have actual USE in society. Not having genitals doesn't prevent you from doing anything other than having sex.
shareIf it's used during sex then it's literally not useless.
shareYour obsession with your genitals is absurd... Am I to believe that you would rather die than lose your genitals? That if you had testicular cancer you'd say "no, I need those..."
This entire argument is about why people mucking with their genitals is not comparable to people mucking with organs that actually have a use in day to day living... trying to insist that keeping your genitals would prevent you from living a normal life indicates you have way too much obsession with them.
uh, that was my first post on this topic and it was just one sentence where I corrected a clearly false claim.
Speaking of absurd behavior...
So does your penis, ya dink. Society needs penises if it's going to continue to exist. You also need it to go to the fucking bathroom.
shareNo you don't. Men have had their penises blown off in war, something a little coward like you wouldn't know about, and they've functioned just fine without them.
shareThey've functioned "just fine" without them because of serious major medical intervention. It's not normal to not have a penis, you moron, and you only survive without one because of medicine and science.
Also, don't speak for people without penises. Just fine? Ask a guy who lost his penis or a woman who lost her breasts if they are "just fine", you ass. Unless of course you are saying you don't have a penis?
How would you know he's a coward? Answer: You don't. you're just being a dick.
shareYou sure it does though? The very high suicide rate does not drop post-transitioning.
But either way the main issue isn't what they as individuals do with their bodies but rather the demand that society as a whole plays along with their delusion.
https://www.transadvocate.com/fact-check-study-shows-transition-makes-trans-people-suicidal_n_15483.htm
Why do facts dispute your claims if your claims are factual?
Yep. I'm sure a site called 'transadvocate.com' is a TOTALLY unbiased source of facts. I know when I have discussions about abortion, I only trust the infallible studies cited on abortionismurderandmakesbabyjesuscry.net.
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shareThis is false, there are no long term studies on whether gender reassignment is beneficial psychologically. Papers on the subject posted by proponents openly admit they can't prove it's in the person's long term best interest.
sharehttps://www.transadvocate.com/fact-check-study-shows-transition-makes-trans-people-suicidal_n_15483.htm
Transphobic scum.
You didn't read it did you? LOL.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
share
Results
The overall mortality for sex-reassigned persons was higher during follow-up (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 1.8–4.3) than for controls of the same birth sex, particularly death from suicide (aHR 19.1; 95% CI 5.8–62.9). Sex-reassigned persons also had an increased risk for suicide attempts (aHR 4.9; 95% CI 2.9–8.5) and psychiatric inpatient care (aHR 2.8; 95% CI 2.0–3.9). Comparisons with controls matched on reassigned sex yielded similar results. Female-to-males, but not male-to-females, had a higher risk for criminal convictions than their respective birth sex controls.
Conclusions
Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.
I'm not sure you are correct.
Simona Halep had the greatest rack in the tennis world.
She chopped her gift of nature off barely 20 just to win more games.
Other than fans of big tits like myself being sad and insulted, nobody objected to her crazy request.
No psychological profilying nor checkup.
There was no medical reason for that, barely a sport enhancing one, and yet they helped her in this body modification quest.
Where would they draw the line?
That sounds like cheating. She should have been kicked out, just like transwomen and steroid users.
shareHow come??
So any athlete that loses weight and gains muscles should be kicked out?
She didn't use steroids nor hormones. She is still a woman and still has boobs, but smaller.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Simona-Halep-1040x572.jpg
I would say that those are mostly cosmetic/utilitarian ...
just like dick or boobs enlargement. She had a boob resize operation, not removal ... she still has boobs.
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Right... women exist purely for men to ogle. It is her body and having large breasts actually causes serious pain, but no... as a man you get to decide what she can and cannot do. She got breast reduction surgery, many women do... the breasts are a another useless organ that don't have any effect on your ability to function in the real world.
Pervert.
"breasts are a another useless organ"
They've kept babies alive for centuries. You're an idiot
I like big boobs and I cannot lie,
you other brothers cant deny