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End of vaccines for anyone but the rich

posted 8 days ago by TMC-4 (20121)
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https://www.datalounge.com/thread/34989158-end-of-vaccines-for-anyone-but-the-rich

Jim Wright, a retired US Navy Chief Warrant Officer and freelance writer, wrote a post about RFK and his anti-vax campaign on Facebook that might be of interest here.

"Trump has nominated Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a conspiracy nut and rabid anti-vaxxer, to lead the Department of Health and Human Services.

RFK Jr has a long, long history of insane, counterfactual, completely wrong, and at best misleading claims regarding vaccines. I don't think he's ever said a single word about vaccines that was correct. There isn't an unhinged vaccine conspiracy theory Kennedy doesn't love and believe whole hog. He's lost literally hundreds of lawsuits over vaccines.

But NOW he's going be in charge of vaccination for the entire country. We're literally going to put the biggest nut in the booby hatch in charge, and we're going to lock up all the doctors.

Guess Liberals should have shown up, eh? Then again, anti-vax conspiracy theories have long been a popular bugaboo on the far left, which is where Kennedy himself came from, so maybe the Left is getting exactly what it wanted after all.

Be that as it may, or may not be, Kennedy has said the government won't out and out outlaw vaccines, but will just make it so they aren't mandated.

Vaccines won't be mandatory and no one from schools to employers to the military will be able to make them so. (You probably don't want to spend too much time imagining the massive vulnerability any unvaccinated military will face in a battlespace where disposable $100 drones can easily spray biological agents over wide areas...)'

Anyway, you'll still be able to get your family vaccinated. But your insurance won't cover it.

Yeah, if vaccines aren't mandatory, AND the government agency tasked with certifying their effectiveness is run by a bunch of drooling lunatics who think Froot Loops make kids gay or something, well, then there isn't any way in hell that your insurance company is going to pay for them. Especially when they repeal the ACA slash Obamacare.

In practical terms what this means is that ONLY the rich will be fully vaccinated. And the poor will be ravaged by disease.

Oh, and it's not just going to be measles, mumps, polio, whooping cough, flu, COVID, etc. No no. It'll be the classics like cholera and typhus too, because Trump, RFK, and the new Department of Government Efficiency run by Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk, are ALSO going to get rid of health inspectors, you know, the people who make sure your food isn't contaminated by rat flees or your drinking water doesn't have human shit in it.

When Trump said make America like the 1700s again, Buddy, he wasn't kidding"

https://www.facebook.com/Stonekettle/posts/pfbid0Z1GWbwDZeuPTWmkvMgSAtTUVNFgwfJFtcAGHBfbytbVZHbvxLLtekPbLsHbdMNYMl

[–] CraigJamesReview (1715) 8 days ago

If only there was a vaccine that gets libs to pull their heads out of their own asses and actually listen

[–] The_Rev (315) 8 days ago

Better than the MAGAtards that believe the most ridiculous crap about Trump... "I'm the father of IVF".... psh... He's the father of ignorance and hatred more than he's the father of IVF... :-P

[–] Indiscipline (734) 6 days ago

Please keep being like that for 4 more years so that we will not elect another Dem at that point. You are so stupid to not realize people like you helped lose the election.

[–] The_Rev (315) 6 days ago

Actually, I would tend to blame the outcome of this election on the estimated 90 million Americans who were eligible to vote but chose not to. You can't really say the will of the American people was done when almost 1 in 3 voters couldn't be bothered to give themselves a voice. The truth is that elections only tell you what percentage of people who actually voted, voted one way or the other.
TL;DR Election 2024 was decided by 2/3 of the voting public. Meaning Trump essentially won by getting 50-some percent of 2/3 of the votes cast... It's still a win, but it's by no means a landslide when you consider this: If you view non-votes as non-supportive of either candidate, then more people chose either Harris or NO ONE... Over your Orange Jesus. :-P
If he's soooooo popular, why would 1/3 of registered voters NOT vote for him?

[–] Indiscipline (734) 6 days ago

Okay, literally who asked for those averages? Only people like you..to try to justify your ideology.

That ideology is done, sir.

[–] parkerbot (8993) 7 days ago

Oh, no.

How will the poor survive.

Let's check in on Africa for a quick glimpse into the future - oh, they're doing okay.

[–] Jinx (3721) 6 days ago

Is this a joke?

[–] The_Rev (315) 6 days ago

He's got "bot" in the name... Even if it's not an actual bot, he's still a troll. So he might as well be.

[–] Jinx (3721) 6 days ago

Ahh, thank you.

[–] parkerbot (8993) 5 days ago

Back up.

I thought Africa was doing to be a wasteland of dead bodies because their vaccination rates weren't as high as other "developed" nations?

Remember that or have you forgotten?

Oh, you're talking about the polio vaccine. The malaria vaccine. Not that other one. Got it. That is what you meant right? Right?

[–] Jinx (3721) 5 days ago

First of all, I don't remember hearing ANYONE say that "Africa was doing to be a wasteland of dead bodies because their vaccination rates weren't as high as other "developed" nations"

As far as why less people died in Africa, it seems pretty simple to me, there aren't as many international flights to African countries as there are to Europe and America. So the likelihood of it being seeded and taking over the continent is far less.

[–] parkerbot (8993) 3 days ago

I guess you forgot or didn't watch the same news stories I did.

Your theory about flights is ridiculous.

[–] Jinx (3721) 2 days ago

It's not my 'theory'. It's a fact.

[–] parkerbot (8993) a day ago

Ah, the old fact argument.

Well, I can't argue with facts. Or common sense.

You got me.

[–] HarlemEagle42 (17735) 6 days ago

Just like how all the Fox News hosts were antivaxxers for their audience despite the whole lot of them totally being vaccinated themselves.

[–] Jinx (3721) 6 days ago

Exactly. I wonder how many people who listened to Tucker realized that.

[–] liscarkat (18367) 6 days ago

That is a lie, like most of the noise that emits from democrats.

[–] Jinx (3721) 5 days ago

Prove it.

[–] Oblivioid (1482) 6 days ago

Kamala Harris was completely opposed (anti-vax) to any Coronavirus vaccine when Trump was President and was very vocal about it.

[–] TMC-4 (20121) 6 days ago

What the hell does Kamala Harris have to do with this? She lost the election while Trump is bringing in a vocal anti-vaxxer in his wrong right in RFK Jr. into his new cabinet. Spare me the "Whataboutism" BS!

[–] Destinata (3314) 6 days ago

He's not an Anti-vaxxer. He wants the vaccines tested for safety. As Mark Steyn explains, most Western countries are willing to have commissions looking into the safety of those vaccines.

I wish you guys would stop with your misinformation to promote your causes.

I saw Bobby eating McDonald's today, so he must be more flexible than folks like you portray him as being.

[–] TMC-4 (20121) 6 days ago

RFK Jr. says he isn't an anti-vaxxer. He's wrong - STAT News

https://www.statnews.com/2024/11/18/rfk-jr-anti-vaxxer-vaccine-skeptic/

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. has a long record of promoting anti-vaccine views

https://apnews.com/article/robert-f-kennedy-vaccines-trump-rfkjr-7f8dcb25de76a5a70710d22bbc63f6fa

RFK Jr. Claims He’s Not Anti-Vaccine But His Actions Tell a Much Different Story

https://www.dcimmunized.org/rfk-jr-says-hes-not-anti-vaccine/

[–] Destinata (3314) 6 days ago

His kids are vaxxed. He's vaxxed. Nice try.

[–] itsbananas2024 (1733) 5 days ago

This.

[–] Destinata (3314) 4 days ago

The pitiful thing is, unless you got the vax that didn't have proper testing and they've now proven causes sudden death [https://x.com/KristyTallman/status/1858912118055334391], they say you're anti-vax. Excuse me, you're just anti-THAT vax.

[–] Pete314 (3001) 5 days ago

That's only said because you sheeple really think that this mRNA poison is a true vaccine. It isn't.
Nobody doubts the effectiveness of long established vaccines against polio, pox, or whatever.

[–] Jinx (3721) 5 days ago

How does the mRNA vaccine work? Because I don't think you know.

[–] Pete314 (3001) 5 days ago

How does a real vaccine work? I bet you don't know...
And to answer your stupid question: Not at all 😂

[–] Jinx (3721) 4 days ago

You have no clue, you've made that perfectly clear. Thank you.

[–] Pete314 (3001) 4 days ago

Sure, nobody ever will have a clue but Kamala voters. 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[–] Jinx (3721) 2 days ago

What on earth does it have to do with politics?!

[–] Pete314 (3001) 2 days ago

Then why do you spread your BS on a politician's board, genius?

[–] FilmBuff (7234) 5 days ago

You watch too much TV.

RFK Jr. is not an "anti-vaxxer."

[–] Aylmer (417) 2 days ago

Exactly. Right now there is zero accountability among the drug companies for putting out bad products. They are able to bribe the government and the media into just going along with whatever products they create, and endlessly increasing the amount of chemicals people are unquestioningly pumping themselves and their kids full of into eternity.

RFK Jr., though I disagree with him on many issues, is actually very pro-vax in general but also wants accountability and transparency in the medical industry, including with vaccines. He wants things safer for everyone, which may mean taking a few medications off the market.

While I am a Libertarian and heavy regulation is kinda anti-Libertarian, it does appear to me to be largely in the public's best interests, as long as you remove corruption from the regulatory bodies (to the extent that such a thing is actually possible).