Should Cheryl Hines be embarrassed for that blow job scene in Curb Your Enthusiasm where she is blowing Larry under the covers and emerges with talcum powder all over her mouth to which her character is allergic.
I notice that in Curb Your Enthusiasm Cheryl is kind of used as such a stereotype ... but the money is probably good. Is she a prostitute in a way, or just a good sport to be humiliated like that?
Should Cheryl Hines be embarrassed for that blow job scene in Curb Your Enthusiasm where she is blowing Larry under the covers and emerges with talcum powder all over her mouth to which her character is allergic.
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Sorry if my "simple mind" misunderstood your point.
Yeah, that says nothing about my attitudes toward sex, women, Cheryl Hines, Larry David or anything but how some women characters and Cheryl are PORTRAYED on TV.
Hines does a great job (pun ...I don't know if I intended this or not... Freud says I did) with a great character on a great show. She should not be embarrassed about that.
Cheryl's a stereotype? Sure. So are Larry, Jeff, Suzie, and Leon. So are a LOT of the characters on the show. But, to the credit of the performers, they feel less like stereotypes and almost more like archetypes, if that makes sense. They do have layers, even if they keep that "elemental" base.
I agree she is good at her jobs, and pretty cute for an old lady ... but I think you should go back and watch her character, she is really used like a slut, but it's Okay because it's just a joke kind of thing and Larry shines her on occasionally. It is a clever and interesting dynamic, but it is funny, I just think most people miss it, don't care, or think it is great.
I never got the impression of the slut thing. If anything, I'd have said that her character was given a bit too many "Not tonight, Larry, I have a headache," moments that are a bit old-hat for sitcom wives. But slutty? No, I don't get that. The show's HBO home lets them get explicit sometimes, I guess.
She is certainly a rich celebrity groupie then. Maybe slut it too much, I should not have said that, I just meant it as a joke. I mean jumping from Larry to Ted and then back again. The onus there is on her ... after all that is not something we expect nice girls to do.
Oh, I'm not taking offence to the term, I just am not seeing her the way you are. Which, again, no judgement. I've disagreed with plenty of people on interpretation of film and TV characters. To me, that's some of the fun. "Oh, you saw it that way? Interesting..."
Cheryl was, at least at first, clearly designed as a cocked eyebrow saying, "Oh, Larry..." so that Larry David's social faux pas and other shenanigans had a foil to bounce off of. She was given a lot of standard-issue "wife" traits because those work to make the goofy husband funnier. In short: she's a straight-man.
Now, I did think that Cheryl Hines managed to get a lot out of that character and I did like Cheryl David; a lot of those sitcom wives are humourless shrews, but CD seemed to have a sense of humour, and did seem to like Larry (as opposed to several sitcom spouses who seem so dead-set against their mates you start to wonder why they're involved with them).
As to the later plotting with Ted and Larry, I think this is due to two factors. First, in-character, Cheryl goes through a really rough patch with Larry and Ted has a "rebound" quality. She's in a vulnerable place, needs a friend, and Ted was always really close with the Davids both. Out of character, Larry David was getting divorced, and I think that clearly influenced his decision on the show.
To be honest, I always thought that wasn't necessarily the best move, although it led to the Palestinian Chicken episode, so...maybe that's a net gain. But I kinda liked the Larry and Cheryl relationship.
Anyway, for me to think of her as loose or a party girl, I'd have to see her hopping guys a LOT more than being torn between two with whom she has history and emotional connections.
The whole rift between the two was over Larry's sleuthing that uncovered the fact that Cheryl did not respect wood enough. That was such a hilarious and masterful scene.
The other funny one was when they went to Mexico and Larry forget his toothbrush and ended up borrowing Cheryl's and was in the room when Ted paid a surprise visit. That had me in stitches.
The great thing about these shows is that, at least for me, I can watch them over and over and still get a great laugh at the whole structure and form of the CYE style. It's really so clever.
I love that Larry is so Larry that he can't let the wood thing go long enough to save his marriage. He'd rather spiral his whole life out of control than let the wood thing go. It's amazingly funny. "Do you respect wood?"
The structure is what makes the show work. Larry David sets everything up so meticulously in order to free the performers up enough to improvise lines. If they follow his outline, it doesn't matter what they say, it'll always be funny.
I saw the wood respect thing as a weakness for Cheryl.
Larry is right.
She has no respect and she ruined Julia's table.
He is asking her to set the record straight with HIS friend and coworker.
She should have said "yes, I will tell her, no problem".
Instead she just decides this fair request is not worth, she is above it and Larry's problems with Julia are not her concern, even though SHE caused them.
I agree Cheryl should have apologized to Julia and/or Larry.
However, what makes Larry (on Curb) so funny to watch is that he can't park this moment for long enough to save his relationship. Like, big picture, he could get Cheryl back (a goal of his for most of the season) and then later on bring it up and ask her to set the record straight. But he doesn't. He can't. He can't stow it for a couple of days long enough to recover his marriage.
He also can't just say, "Oh, Cheryl, could you please let Julia know it wasn't me; this has actually caused some friction with us and I'd appreciate it if you'd help me out," he has to get "I told you so." He has to get smug and superior and rub Cheryl's face in it. So he chooses the wrong moment and the wrong method, even if he is justified in his aim.
That's what's funny (to me) about Larry and Curb. It's either nit-picking nonsense that he magnifies, it's petty garbage he shouldn't be worried about, or it's something important and consequential that he goes about in entirely the wrong way.
Wait a sec...
I doubt a woman giving a bj to her man is a "stereotype" anything, other than a stereotypical straight woman.
This whole thread is prudish and repressed, Cheryl couldn't be written any more wholesome than she already is.
Not because of the blowjob, Heisenberg, but just because she often plays the role of the sitcom wife, more patient, tactful, and sociable than her goofy husband. A lot of her arcs in episodes seemed to involve her sadly shaking her head going, "Larry..."
But that's not knocking Hines or the character. Curb knows when to buck the system (the improvised dialogue, the docu-comedy format) and when to stick to it (standard sitcom plots and characters), and relies on its actors fleshing out their performances enough to keep them from cliche, even if they are rooted in these stereotypes. Is Larry David (the character) a true original? Not really. Is he played to the hilt, extremely well, and rises above those roots? Yes. Same for Cheryl.
Ok I see what YOU mean by it, I agree, they all have some typical traits.
But the OP means that she follows the stereotype of the cocksucker or something like that, and the actress is a prostitute for getting money to be humiliated like that. Instead of seeing it as a tame comic sketch about a commonplace activity of a couple.
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