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This is just the beginning


There are no consequences for violent, anti-social behavior. The moment college kids started shouting down people on campuses (about 8 years ago this got started), the adults should have hit them with severe consequences (they should have been thrown out of college). Now they think they can attack anybody they want at any time. Quite possibly the most uncivilized generation ever.

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A-effing-MEN

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I don't know about you but the guy who tried to attack Chapelle looked like a pretzel on the stretcher. There were definitely consequences to him doing his dumb ass stunt.

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True. But idiots don't think that far ahead.

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Agree 100%

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We keep allowing people who unqualified to be parents have children. Those children grow up
with no skills for being parents, then THEY have children; and so on. The result is a horde of unsocialized, uncivilized citizens.

We, rightly, GRILL people who want to adopt a child, requesting evidence of wherewithal and social and parental skills. But if the child is issue of your loins, no one is minding the store.

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A good point, though I don't know how we'd implement determining who gets to have kids without wandering into a more totalitarian landscape.

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Mandatory sterilization of men once they are able to reproduce. That can be undone at some point but you have to show you're responsible enough to care for a kid.

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Responsible enough according to who? The government?

I definitely don't trust the government enough to allow them to make those kinds of decisions.

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It all depends on the government in power, I guess?

Given that the current Government can't even determine what the polar opposite to 'men' actually are?

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Do you seriously think Chris Rock was the first comedian to be hit on stage?

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Nobody said anything of the sort. Either you're not paying attention or you're intentionally trying to derail the conversation.

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Answer your own question: name a comedian who has been attacked on stage.

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Jerry Sadowitz

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Live on TV and on a stage with the same audience size as the Oscars?

And with zero immediate consequences? No security to throw will smith out, nothing happened, business as usual. No assault charges either. He was even given an Oscar with standing ovations.

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What?

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What???

I was asking you: was Jerry Sadowits attacked on Live TV, with an audience as large as that of the Oscars?
Was the attacker not tackled by security and removed from the premises? Did the attacker just went to his his seat and the show continued like nothing happened? Did the attacker receive an award 5 minutes after the attack in standing ovations just like nothing happened? Was the attack made viral and some people jumped to defend the attacker?

The 2 are NOT the same. The main problem was not the attack but the lack of immediate reactions to the attack.

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Well then if Dave Chapelle's attacker wasn't an A-List Hollywood celebrity invited with his wife the ceremony, and nominated for an award, and the whole thing didn't look suspiciously like a prank that didn't work right, then your invocation of the circumstances of Chris Rock being slapped has no place here either.

The OP is suggesting that David Chapelle's attack is a new thing because of the Chris Rock incident. It's the first high profile case AFTER the Chris Rock incident. But you'd have to be fucking delusional to assume that people weren't emboldened to attack comedians on stage until they saw the bizarre incident with Will Smith.

Can you tell me if you have ever seen, or would expect to see, security guards jump on and beat down and A-List celebrity walking on to the stage, or even dragging them away like a rag doll after slapping someone theatrically? If you think that's a likely turn of events then you are fucking cukoo.

Never mind that. Your insistence that a comedian being struck by someone who wasn't apprehended and arrested immediately, and it didn't take place in TV blah blah,..... can't be my answer to kwestmo's question is demented to begin with.

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"The OP is suggesting that David Chapelle's attack is a new thing because of the Chris Rock incident. It's the first high profile case AFTER the Chris Rock incident."

And that's exactly my point. WTF. Why are you so slow?

It doesn't matter what I would have expected to happen. What matters is what happened and how was perceived/presented.

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And I'm saying that people were attacking comedians on stage before the Will Smith incident. Will Smith didn't invent assholes or embolden assholes to invent attacking comedians on stage. Will Smith didn't begin anything. It's been happening for ever.

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Yeah, a lot of things have happened before. Crime has happened before but we are always worried about jumps in crime rates.

The important thing is how often these things will start happening.

Damn you're dense.

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"This is just the beginning" is the OP. What is beginning?

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Of a possible increase in the number of attacks on comedians.

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Only if there is a huge audience and nobody apprehending or reprimanding the attacker on the spot though right?

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Really??

Do I really need to explain to you how that empowers future attackers?

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Thanks. That was a great frigging joke. Canadians have no sense of humor.

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Jim Morrison "abused himself" on stage once... allegedly.

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I went to school with these pieces of shit. This generation is full of sociopathic narcissists who don’t give a shit about anyone, but themselves. The way they treat other people is disgusting.

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Next time the gun will be real.

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(they should have been thrown out of college).

that didnt happen??

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