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Had Twitter been around in 1980 when John Lennon was murdered...

posted 5 years ago by TMC-4 (20123)
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Would he have gotten the Kobe Bryant treatment from some people (such as Evan Rachael Wood, Abigail Disney, and Felicia Sonmez) who caught heat for bringing up the 2003 rape allegations front and center in wake of his tragic death:
https://www.quora.com/What-famous-person-in-US-history-is-revered-even-though-he-is-actually-a-terrible-person/answer/A-R-Anamatronic

John Lennon beat his first wife and child relentlessly, described his first son as nothing more than just a bad bottle of Whisky, he wanted to have sex with his mom (Well, he desired a strong woman in his life, which she certainly was. To be more specific, he said that if he tried something, she would probably go for it), he cheated on his last wife, Yoko Ono, with his personal assistant May Pang, cheated on his first wife more times than anyone knows, and whenever a disabled person came backstage before/after a Beatles concert, he (or someone else) wold yell something along the lines of “Cripples!” and the Beatles would then evacuate the room. After he and Ono moved into The Dakota (their apartment complex), he decided to be a stay at home dad for a bit. He baked bread and other things (cookies and whatnot) and was so proud of himself he gave them to everyone, the mailman, neighbors, etc,. When he realized he didn’t get anything in return for it, he stopped.

[–] degree7 (821) 4 years ago

The person who wrote that is a libelous moron. He didn’t “beat his first wife and child relentlessly”. Lennon was an arsehole, but he admitted as much. The worst he did to his kids was give them a hiding or yell at them. He wasn’t a great father, but he certainly wasn’t the monster this Quora yokel makes him out to be. Notice he didn’t provide any evidence for his assertions.

[–] L1 (1316) 4 years ago

this is a lie article. listen to an interview by cynthia lennon. LIES

[–] Owlwise (1535) 4 years ago

Lennon was a damaged boy, and why not, with his father abandoning him early on & his mother being killed by a drunken driver just when he had reconnected with her. Credit to him for recognizing his youthful anger & violence as he got older. Not just recognizing it, but being ashamed of it & striving to do better going forward.

That Quora answer is mean-spirited garbage.

[–] TMC-4 (20123) 4 years ago

How exactly does that (if it were true) justify him beating his first wife and abandoning his son!? That's basically saying that, it's my parents fault that I'm such an asshole towards my immediate loved ones as an adult. You're pretty much giving one an excuse to deflect their personal responsibility.

[–] TMC-4 (20123) 4 years ago

It's also obvious that some commenters (I'm looking at you Metatron1970) took what I posted out of context. My point is that if Twitter had existed on December 8, 1980, then the rumors and allegations about John Lennon's alleged "dark side" as both a husband and father would've justified or not, been more immediately scrutinized or dissected. It's like when Sean Connery passed away and that interview that he did with Barbara Walters, where he said that a man should be allowed to slap a woman was immediately called back into the conversation.

[–] Karl Aksel (1487) 3 years ago

That interview, with Sean Connery, was all over the internet years before he died.

[–] Owlwise (1535) 4 years ago

I'm not saying that it justifies those actions, merely that it helps to explain them. An explanation is not the same thing as an excuse; I want to be quite clear about that. My point is that Lennon was able to confront his inner demons & attempted to make himself a better person, rather than simply continuing as he was.

He said in 1980:

"I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically — any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn’t express myself and I hit. I fought men and I hit women. That is why I am always on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace. Everything’s the opposite. But I sincerely believe in love and peace. I am not violent man who has learned not to be violent and regrets his violence.

"I will have to be a lot older before I can face in public how I treated women as a youngster."

He recognized & admitted what he had done & what he had been. And he was striving to grow beyond that.

I'd also note that children who have been physically and/or emotionally abused often act out violently as they grow up. Again, not an excuse, but an explanation.

And how many of us have lived a morally impeccable life, without any words or acts of meanness of spite when we were younger? Haven't we all done things we're now ashamed of? If those things are recognized, acknowledged, and lead to real growth, are we still to be judged by what we were at our worst, rather than what we've become since then? And again, I'm not saying that we should ignore or brush aside those things. I'm just saying that it's possible to grow into a better person. Not everyone does, but credit to those who make the effort & accept personal responsibility for what they did. And try to atone for it.

[–] whynotwriteme (7720) 4 years ago

Lennon was a disturbed individual whose personal quirks and unorthodox world-view influenced an entire generation. One of the worst and also one of the most popular role models that western civilization has ever produced.

[–] Owlwise (1535) 4 years ago

That depends on one's perspective. For me, he (among others) opened doors to otherwise unimagined possibilities, something that made my inner life richer & more whole over the decades. I didn't hang on his every word, but I'm grateful for his emotionally powerful body of work & the positive influence I got from him.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Is there anyway we can let Mark David Chapman out of his correctional facility for a little while to take care of this fucktard OP?

[–] strntz (12225) 4 years ago

TMC-4 posts many articles here, but there's no indication he believes any of it. The Quora asshole is the one that needs a beating.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Oh yes TCM-4, the same guy who listed every single affiliate that broadcast the 40 year old sitcom "Too Close for Comfort"

[–] strntz (12225) 4 years ago

Well, he is prolific if nothing else..

[–] TMC-4 (20123) 4 years ago

What the hell does that have to do with John Lennon!? And I don't understand why something like that (a show that was syndicated) should perturb you.

[–] TMC-4 (20123) 4 years ago

So your insinuating that I think that John Lennon deserved to be assassinated just because of the unsavory things that he might have done in his personal life beforehand, correct!? Tell me this, how does saying that John Lennon wasn't a perfect man and allegedly did things that he should be ashamed of make me a "fucktard"! If anything, you're the fucktard for flat out saying such a thing in the first place!

[–] marktayloruk (2502) 3 years ago

I don't believe most of it.

[–] strntz (12225) 3 years ago

Even if you believe only what Lennon admitted to, it's not a nice picture.