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Symptoms Probably Started in the 1990s


Based on my experiences (dementia is in my family, and I know people who have relatives with it), there's this misconception that dementia suddenly springs up when you're diagnosed at 50, 60, 70, etc. However, dementia is an insidious disease that is the definition of "slow burn". It can take decades to unfold, but in such subtle ways that in its earlier stages it doesn't look anything more than normal personality change that come with age (mellowing out) or resembles more benign medical conditions (like B12 deficiency, anxiety, exhaustion, depression, etc.).

There's no question in my mind that Bruce Willis started having symptoms as early as the mid-nineties. The reason why I suspect as much is that there was a dramatic change in his onscreen presence from between his Moonlighting/Die Hard 1 and 2 days and Pulp Fiction/The Fifth Element. At the time, I just gave him the benefit of the doubt. Like, I remember how he was in Pulp Fiction and The Sixth Sense and thinking, "Okay, he's trying to change his acting style," or, "He was miscast or misdirected." However, the more I rewatched his performances over the years, the more vacant he came across.

Later on, people just trashed him, saying stuff like, "Oh, he's just lazy and phoning it in/taking a paycheck," but I don't think so. Even when charismatic actors do stuff to pay the bills, their personality comes through. If anything, they tend to play things more over the top, to let everyone know that they're in on the joke or have no respect for the material. For example, Nicolas Cage will always be his quirky, weird self no matter what he's in. But with Willis, it was like he was sleepwalking through his roles and the signature personality that had made him a star was gone.

In any event, dementia is a horrible, cruel disease, and part of the reason is that it makes the person look totally fine until it's progressed to the point of no return. So, until it's obvious that they have it (and get diagnosed), it just looks like someone being difficult, lazy, stupid, depressed, boring, etc.

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I think it's been about the last 10-15 years the criticism became he was "phoning it in" on his movies. I think he still attached himself to good movies in the 90s and early 2000s.

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I think it's been about the last 10-15 years the criticism became he was "phoning it in" on his movies.


That's what I said. I said "later on," as in after I noticed the change in him after The Sixth Sense and The Fifth Element.

Later on, people just trashed him, saying stuff like, "Oh, he's just lazy and phoning it in/taking a paycheck," but I don't think so.

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It would explain Hudson Hawk.


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Hey!

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I'm just teasing. I love Hudson Hawk. It's a guilty pleasure for me....like reindeer goat cheese pizza.

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I think its started in 2008 or 2009 around the time he proclaimed "he had falle out of love with filmmaking" and around 2013 when hes deemed very unfriendly and hard to work with.

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there was an interview he did for Die Hard 5 on a live uk show The One Show in 2013 where he was very 'difficult', mumbling, giving one word answers, the loud welsh presenter woman later berated him online saying it was like 'trying to get blood out of a stone', of course now we know why he was being like that .. it was kind of a big deal in the uk and the media was all over it saying he was being deliberately difficult others were saying like 'can you blame him having to be on that One Show' etc. Bruce himself (or his ppl) later weighed in said he was 'suffering jetlag.' At the time i thought maybe he might be suffering a relapse of his stutter (bc i remembered reading he had to overcome that in his early years) he also didnt seem too proud of the movie making fun of the title (A Good Day to Die Hard) and acting like it was abit meh when the male simp presenter started over gushing about how good it was, the best one ever (when it was blatantly obvious it was the worst of the franchise ,even worse than Die Hard 4.0 and that was pretty bad)

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Matt Baker | The One Show 6 February 2013 (Part 1):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK-Tj297N_4

Matt Baker and Alex Jones are joined by Bruce Willis, Adam Hills and Zoe Tapper. The best part is Matt and Alex's the unmissable 'TRY HARD' wallposter! You would not be disappointed! (^ _ ~).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgCXAQQB-aQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxTPEd_Skfc

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There's speculation that he suffered a major accident (to his head) whilst filming 'Tears Of The Sun' (2003) which *may* explain his current condition?

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Michael J Fox did not come out publically about his Parkinson's diagnosis until 1998, even tho he was diagnosed in 1990. If you watch his performances between then (The Frighteners, Greedy, Mars Attacks!), he seems really stiff and bored, just going through the motions. Now you can look at these movies and understand it was a very similar situation as Willis; private diagnosis, heavily medicated, just not the same person.

However, Fox was alot smarter for "retiring", or just publically coming out about it. I get keeping stuff private, but I really wish Willis would've come out publically about his aphasia in like 2013 or something. I imagine MJF would've gone down a similar route of endless ridicule had he continued to act for another 20 years in movies that were awful and accommodated a disease nobody but he knew about. Willis would've saved a lot of respect for coming out sooner.

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Tallulah Willis Noticed Early Signs Of Her Dad Bruce's Dementia Diagnosis

https://www.nickiswift.com/1339071/tallulah-willis-noticed-early-signs-dad-bruce-dementia-diagnosis/

Before Bruce Willis received his dementia diagnosis, his daughter Tallulah was one of the first to notice that something was amiss with his health.

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In hindsight, it's kind of apparent that something is "off" about Bruce in this interview for Glass:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbCfcNVZsNw

He's still articulate and coherent but it's obvious that his speech is impaired. Like I said, you can still understand what he's saying, it's just that he's very slow and deliberate with his words. There's a tiredness and sadness in his speech for a lack of a better word.

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