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Scientology impact


I'm a fan. Liked most of his movies, loved some of them. But I have now reached a point where I can't separate his on screen image from that of his private life, which is highly spotlighted in the media.

I have two questions.

1. Is Scientology the reason that Tom Cruise suffers the inability to sustain a personal, long lasting relationship with his ex wives and subsequent children, or did they all jump ship due to Scientology?

2. Since Cruise is a "celebrity" member of Scientology, is he, or is he not subject to all the "rules" and "regulations" of Scientology, or is he exempt from regulation due to his extensive pocket book?

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1. Yes.

2. He doesn't have to follow the same rules, considering his infidelity/promiscuity, gambling, smoking and drinking. But he does follow much of it.

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#1, yes as in: he can't hold personal, quality relationships. Majority of his relationships ended because of Scientology interference, he had no relationship with his youngest daughter because her mom is a SP, and he only has a relationship with his eldest kids because they're also Scientologists.

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So, as horrible as it must be, Nicole Kidman either abandoned her adopted children with Cruise to Scientology, and she is being shunned by them as an SP? Or worse than that, she has access to them as long as she agrees to stay silent about that agreement.

One can only conclude that Katie Holmes made a choice, and she chose her daughter.

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I think it's probably both: Kidman is a SP (because she was not only against Scientology/Miscavige, but pulled Tom from it as well), but she keeps quiet so she can speak to her kids. I would have fought tooth and nail for my kids if their father was incapable of safety providing for them, but she made that choice.

And Tom made his (dumb) choice to stay with Scientology after Katie left him and took their daughter, when he should have followed her out the door. Katie absolutely did the right thing.

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Cruise's decision to not leave Scientology is strange when you consider that he stopped having Scientologist spy Michael Doven work for him on his movies.

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Not strange at all when Scientology helped him with his dyslexia. He feels loyal to the teachings.

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According to Andrew Morton (who interviewed loads of people from Cruise's pre-Scientology period), Tom had already conquered his dyslexia.

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First I'm hearing of this. It was always Scientology.

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Well, Cruise owed Scientology because they paid his first divorce settlement. Morton's book is essential reading for any fan/hater of the star.

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Thx.

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I only give a crap how he does his job

His personal life is none of my business or yours





You don't have to stand tall, but you do have to stand up!

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so basically as long as LITTLE OLE YOU isn't harmed, then who cares about anyone else right?

ARE YOU FOR REAL!?!....

when someone's "private life" and association with something has abused (financially, emotionally, physically) thousands of people over the decades, it is EVERYONE'S RIGHT TO KNOW AND EVERYONE'S BUSINESS! it's called being a human being with empathy, decency and integrity!...

"oh look, so and so killed someone, but hey, that's their private life, i still enjoy their "insert career" and it's none of my business!

SHAME ON YOU!

cruise is laughing at you and you don't even know it! he's counting on people like you to think like you do!...

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Where the F do you come up with that kind of feces???

YOU couldn't have thought it up yourself, you're to shallow, and ignorant.

Cruise, like any other actor is a dancing bear, we pay for his performance, If we like it we pay for another

DO YOU, in all your supercilious self, fell the same about actors who are Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, or Muslim??????

Doubt it

Here again you're shallow and ignorant





You don't have to stand tall, but you do have to stand up!

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your reply would be hilarious if this wasn't such a important topic what cruise is the public face of (and made himself so) and what he is associated with...

let's see where to begin:

1) i'm shallow and ignorant? whose the one who so shallow that they don't care that this cult abused thousands and continues to do so (financially, emotionally, physical) both their members, ex-members including critics and why? because hey, it's his personal business and life and i like his movies? that is BEYOND SHALLOW ON your PART!.. it's pathologically self absorbed and narcissism....

ignorant? whose the one who KNOWS what they are talking about in regards to scientology? it's not you, that's for sure....

2)Sure cruise is a dancing bear and very famous successful rich one and why? because of us, the public who made him. Sure, we can spend our money elsewhere, but shouldn't we look first as to WHY we are spending our money elsewhere? Because we do not want to support what he is and is involved in that hurts others! for YOU to not care about both parts of the equations is downright scary..."live and let live, who cares what he and his organization does to others, i just won't pay to see him (do you?!) in a movie, so that's all that is required of me! GOOD LORD is that you how you think! as i said let's hope that NO ONE You love and care about gets involved in scientology.. for you to NOT CARE OR NOT KNOW or WANT TO KNOW OR CARE when information is given, is the proverbial stick your head in the sand...

3)yes, let' use YOUR OWN WORDS, in regards to actors belonging to the other religions you mentioned.. WHEN AND IF, i or the public finds out that they are "bad people" or involved with "bad people" or "bad situations/organizations" your DARN RIGHT I AND THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AGAINST THEM!...

let's use the catholic religion (since your the one who brought up other religions and actors in those religions) and some very famous actor whose catholic: let's see in regards to cruise...

has a very famous catholic actor given millions to the pope and the religion to keep it going?

has a very famous catholic actor donated his time and his fame to publicize it, to be used as propaganda for the catholic church?

has a very famous actor appeared at catholic church building openings?

has a very famous catholic actor made a "p.r. propaganda in house video for his religion catered to fellow members to get them and keep them all excited about it?

has a very famous catholic actor gone on national tv saying he is "first and foremost a catholic" and made themselves the public face of it and going on about it to anyone who will listen and going on national tv to proclaim their belief told by them as FACT?

has a very famous actor done the ENTIRELY UNETHICAL, INAPPROPRIATE AND IMMORAL fact of making the pope his best friend and hanging out with the pope doing all kinds of "non religious" activities like riding motorcycle together, skeet shooting, working out, going to car races and hollywood functions, going gambling (!) hanging out at each other's homes and being best man at 2 of the very famous catholic actor's weddings?

has a very famous catholic actor been FACTUALLY DOCUMENTED at having the pope and the catholic religion ROYALLY SO SO IMMORALLY AND WRONG ass kissed him for 30 years and counting with medals given, surprise birthday parties on yachts, work done on his homes, cars, motorcycles, airplane hangar, movie set trailer and ALL DONE BY FELLOW MEMBERS OF HIS "RELIGION" WITH LITTLE TO NO PAY, BASICALLY SLAVE LABOR! and super famous catholic actor not only doesn't see anything wrong with a "religion, a so called "religion" that is, a religion/church/faith of all things doing this for him, instead he thinks it's okay, proper and even deserved! (that's called MORALLY BANKRUPT!)and staffing his homes with household staff?

has a very famous catholic actor allegedly disconnected from his youngest daughter and not seen her in nearly 4 years because of the catholic religion's doctrine and policies? has a very famous catholic actor allegedly banned years ago, his own niece banishing her from the family for 2 years because of her "lower conditions" for kissing a boy in his house and snitched on by the staff and made to be away for 2 years from the family until she made amends for her "lower conditions"?

has a very famous catholic actor banned anyone, anywhere, anytime from asking him about the MOUNTAIN OF information and stories coming out about his "religion" and won't sit for a real interview in years? (if he didn't know anything was going on wrong, or being said bad, then why the ban? oh, that's right, he's been in for 30 years and the leader is his best friend, but he doesn't know ANYTHING wrong or bad is going on and has gone on! uh huh!)

SO WITH ALL OF THIS ABOVE, and all the abuse and illegality and immorality going on, cruise is guilty from association and duplicit and culpable to the crimes of this "religion"

can't wait for you to reply to the very famous catholic, muslim, jewish, buddhist actor/actress who has done all of this, and all of it clearly wrong....can't wait for you intelligent response and counter information to stand by your position and defend your argument for defending cruise!

if you don't see anything wrong with all this information and truth, something is very very wrong here! 1) troll? 2) cultie 3) which?..

i suggest you educate yourself about scientology...

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