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☝️ Pop vs. Box 👇 '82 - 09

posted 3 years ago by Redsfan001 (6218)
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Key -

B - box office rank for year
P - popular rank for year
🎖️ - first place ranking
🗽 - most votes for year

82 Piranha II : The Spawning - no data
84 The Terminator 🗽B21 P3
86 Aliens B5 P2
89 The Abyss B24 P11
91 Terminator 2🎖️ B2 P1
94 True Lies B3 P17
97 Titanic 🎖️🎖️🗽 B1 P1
09 Avatar 🎖️ B1 P3

Best box office

(Tie) Titanic (1), Avatar(1)

Best Pop

(Tie) Terminator 2(1), Titanic(1)

Best Overall (b+p)

Titanic (2)

Worst box

The Abyss (24)

Worst pop

True Lies (17)

Worst overall (b+p)

The Abyss (35)

Total overall ranking

1. Titanic (2)
2. Terminator 2 (3)
3. Avatar (4)
4. Aliens (7)
5. True Lies (20)
6. The Terminator (24)
7. The Abyss (35)

For statheads

Movies scored - 7
Box sum - 57
Pop sum - 35
Avg box ranking- 8.14
Avg pop ranking - 5.00

Odds movie will be in

Box top 20 (5) .714
Box top 10 (5) .714
Box top 5 (5) .714
#1 (2) .285

Pop top 20 (7) 1.00
Pop top 10 (5) .714
Pop top 5 (5) .714
#1 (2) .285

Pop vs. Box awards

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[–] huwdj (4571) 3 years ago

I didn't realize True Lies was directed by him. It's a good film but very different from his other work - just noticed it was a remake as well so perhaps not really a James Cameron product?
My favourite is The Abyss and I like that the popularity rating is higher than box office - it implies I'm not alone?

[–] pjl69 (2647) 3 years ago

Yeah, The Abyss is my favourite also. Too bad Cameron seems to lack the will to release it on blu-ray. That's the only movie from him I'm after nowadays.

[–] moviechatterer (16324) 3 years ago

u r not alone

[–] Redsfan001 (6218) 3 years ago

I haven't seen The Abyss in a long long time. I'm from the generation that remembers and often confuses the three underwater epics released that year. I'll put it in my watch list.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Concerning The Abyss, do you prefer the extended edition that features the underwater aliens threatening the Earth with tsunamis? I loved that more than the theatrical, to be honest.

[–] huwdj (4571) 3 years ago

My copy doesn't have any threats of tsunamis but I've always enjoyed it as it is. Cannot remember seeing any other cut I'm afraid.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

I haven't seen The Abyss in any form for years, but the Extended Cut (as I meant to call it) had the following:

SPOILERS

The guy who goes into the depths to defuse the nuclear warhead goes into the underwater alien ship, but what the extended cut shows is the aliens have learned about humanity's destructive ways, showing the guy all manner of warfare images one after the other, and the aliens plan to wipe out humanity with the tsunamis that are taller than buildings, and it's up to the guy to explain his "LOVE YOU WIFE" message to them, the contradiction they see in human behaviour. In the end, they relent, and then come to the surface.

SPOILERS END

This is what I remember from when I saw it, and I thought it made the movie 100x better, as there were higher stakes involved. Like LOTR, I would never go back to the theatrical cut of The Abyss.

[–] huwdj (4571) 3 years ago

My copy ends like that - maybe I do have the extended cut then? I'll have to dig it out and see what it says on the box.

[–] pjl69 (2647) 3 years ago

The theatrical, short cut became worthless to me after I saw the extended cut.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Agreed.