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Not a creative writer


Considering virtually all his movies are adaptations. He wasn't able to come up with a story of his own. He may have been an excellent director but apparently he lacked human insight to express his own ideas.

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What a strange comment. Are only people who come up with their own stories capable of human insight? Do the actors not have insight? What about when it comes to music. Are the conductors and musicians not able to express insight because they didn't write the music they are performing?

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Agreed. Big fail 🧅

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Absurd statement. You wouldn't say Shakespeare wasn't a creative writer because he lifted material from Plutarch's Lives. Arthur C. Clarke's "The Sentinel" is almost unrecognizable from what Kubrick did with it for 2001. I was so familiar with Kubrick's Shining that when I finally read King's novel, it was nothing like the mysterious film I had been so intrigued by. Kubrick uses source material that contains ideas that interest him, but it is only a starting point for his creative process.

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Well said!

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Thank you!

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Directors, even some really great ones, more often than not did not write the scripts to their films. Spielberg, De Palma and Carpenter only wrote a handful of their films, and most of those were in the early days of their career. However, that doesn't mean they didn't have a good deal of control of the script in the end. Alfred Hitchcock and his wife Alma had a lot of uncredited influence on the scripts of all his films, even though he took no official credit in any of them. Kubrick certainly had a more hands on and prominent role in the crafting of the scripts, but he always adapted the works of others. I think a better example would be an opera composer, like Verdi say, who worked with a librettist, but had full control over the musical aspects of the story.

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The book was a lot better, the film has some good scenes but was a terrible adaptation

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First, Kubrick helped craft the screenplay of almost every single film he made. Second, from a young age Kubrick at heart was a photographer. He was fascinated by everything visual. Combined with his interest in literature, I'm sure he felt that adapting a story he admired freed him up from that concern and allowed him to focus on the visuals and screenplay (as if that weren't enough!).

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True

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You must not know much about how movies are made.

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Amen

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How exactly am I wrong? All you're saying is that he was a great director. And I agree. But why couldn't he come up with anything original?

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Steven King hated the Shining because he said it wasn't true to his book, just because he used someone's story as an outliner doesn't mean he didn't create his own story, most story's have already been done anyway there are only so many notes on a piano, all you can do is add your own interpretation

Quentin Tarantino writes all of his own films from scratch but you could argue they aren't really original and don't really have that much to say at all, they are just entertaining shit

You can't argue that Kubrick didn't have something to say about the world and every film he made had the same themes running through them but because he was cryptic and restrained it only really makes sense when you have watched every film multiple times,

Creative Writing is window dressing it has nothing to do with Communication

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Kubrick's MO a lot of the time was to keep an eye on what other film makers were doing and to try his hand at it, to take whatever theme or genre and try to make the ultimate example of it.

2001 was his take on the 1950s/1960s outer space sci-fi trend.

Barry Lyndon was his take on the period piece.

The Shining was his take on the supernatural horror trend.

Full Metal Jacket was his take on the Viet Nam trend.

And believe it or not, A.I.'s roots go back to when he saw Star Wars and decided to do his own "futuristic sci-fi version of a classic fairytale story."

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"A.I."? Which of Kubrick's movies, that he made after he saw "Star Wars", is "A.I."

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"A.I." was a "project" Kubrick had on the "back burner" for almost 20 "years" and then "finally" decided to "go ahead" with it in the "mid 1990s," after he finished "Eyes Wide Shut" but then he "died" so Steven "Spiel" "berg" "made" "it" "instead."

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Fantastic stuff!

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