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Roberta Flack…


Where is the love for this lovely woman’s voice?!!

The First Time Ever I saw Your Face.

Killing Me Softly With His Song.

The Closer I Get To You.

Sheesh! We should celebrate this woman like we do Whitney!

What a set of pipes👍

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzgllnPpMTs



NOT FLACK...BUT THE MOVIE THAT EXPOSED ME TO HER MUSIC.

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Oh wow, I never saw this movie. I just love Flack’s sexy husky voice👍

Music was so good way back when, a lot of music is sort of crap now.

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SHE IS GREAT....I OWN A COUPLE CDS AND HAVE MULTIPLE SONGS ON MY YOUTUBE PLAYLISTS.

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”The First Time I Ever Saw Your Face”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSrKff0w6CU

I had her album and would play this one over and over. I didn’t care much for her other songs.

But, seriously no one could beat Etta James singing ““At Last”

Just pure raw emotion!

Just imagine dancing cheek to cheek with someone you truly love and this is playing.🥰 In today’s times those cheek to check moves would lead to other body parts touching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-cbOl96RFM

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At Last was my wedding song, first dance of the night.

Whenever we hear it on the radio my wife and I get up and slow dance.

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That is so sweet Bless your pea-pickin hearts. Happy to hear such romance can remain in a marriage! 😘🥰😍 How long have you been married?

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Thank you sweetie😄

Twenty years and forever to go!

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You and wife are an anomaly. To write ”Twenty years and forever to go.” makes you truly blessed! I’ve always believed one should treat a marriage as you would owning a home. After 7 years things start to break down, the dishwasher, the HVAC system, etc. Right before that begins…get rid of the house. As for most marriages…RUN FOR THE HILLS! 🤭

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Hey Kissy, lovely to see you back 😘

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Agree about Etta and "At Last." The TV show Northern Exposure used "At Last" at the end of the episode "Slow Dance" (season 2 episode 7) in an amazing scene between the two leads. I have tried for years to find a clip of it, but there doesn't seem to be one. I first saw it in the early 90s when it first aired, and it made such an impression on me I've never forgotten it. I recently rewatched this episode, and it was as good as I remember.

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I finally found it. Here ya go. You are correct: Right at the end of the episode “Slow Dance” (season 2 episode 7) The 2 guys dancing ruined it for me. I never watched the program so it was a search for a search thing.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6hlvg8

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Thanks for finding that. This scene is one that fans of Northern Exposure still talk about and love, so Ron and Eric dancing together right in the camera's face is a bit of a jar. They were in so few episodes of the series overall, but they feature so prominently in this scene. Their relationship was just a vehicle to further characterize Maurice (the guy in the leather jacket standing with them). Maurice is on the record often of not approving of their lifestyle.

My favorite part of the scene is when Joel swings Maggie out really far on the dance floor then pulls her in really close. Setting this to "At Last" gives me chills, in a good way.

The show was just recently released on streaming for the first time, and the reason was the battle over music rights. "At Last" is just ONE of the amazing songs they used in the show.

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Great series! I watched until Joel left and was replaced by another doctor, but I have zero memory of most of the episodes including this one. I was going to buy the DVDs, but I read that they don't use the original music after season 1. What a shame!

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You have a couple of options to get the original music, Keelai. Amazon Prime has the series with the original music, but I've heard it's only about 80% complete. So far, all of the music I've expected to hear based on my memory of the show's first run such as "At Last" has been kept.

The second option is to get yourself a region free DVD player and buy either the UK or German DVD/BluRay of the series. All of the original music has been preserved for some reason in these countries!

It is truly a great series and was ahead of its time. My recent rewatch has been a pleasant surprise to see how well it has held up after 30 years. Most of my rewatch shows don't fare so well.

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Basically, they took a great series and ruined its DVD release by messing up the music.

The newer 2023 U.S. release has 80% of the original music like the streaming. I'll wait for the other 20%. I'm patient.

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Yep, Roberta Flack is great.

ANother from the same era whose incredible talent never came to fruition is...

Phoebe Snow

She had a daughter born with difficulties. Being the wonderful, unselfish person she proved to be, Phoebe disregarded her own career.

She could have been as big as Roberta Flack, IMO

Anyway, I believe it is safe to say ROberta Flack was the biggest female solo artist of the early 70s. As the decade went on, one would say Linda Rondstadt took over.

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Linda Rondstadt was amazing too, quite a sweet voice!

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”What’s New represents a significant departure for Linda Ronstadt, venturing into the world of traditional pop standards associated with the 1940s and 1950s, backed by lush orchestral arrangements. This album marked the first in a trilogy of albums Ronstadt recorded with bandleader and arranger Nelson Riddle, and it played a pivotal role in reviving interest in the American songbook. The album was both a commercial and critical success, reaching the top of the Billboard charts and earning Ronstadt several Grammy nominations.”

The following is from the “What’s New” album. I love the music from the 1940’s & 1950’s and Linda Ronstadt could belt them out! As one reviewer wrote: “My god could this woman sing. Anything. Simply amazing.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjUXG-Fz8pc&list=OLAK5uy_nsaiLI_2bw1cpg7guyHv4q2KaOMVAFnio

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A great voice that surpassed her discography. Yes, she had half a dozen huge hits, but unfortunately lacked the consistency of many of her peers.

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You're actually speaking somewhat negatively about a respected artist?!?!

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I think she’s marvellous, but she could have been bigger, given the correct song choice.

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There was nothing, absolutely nothing negative in Wan King’s post. How you read he spoke “somewhat negatively” is beyond me. It appears you’re looking to nit pick. Your eyes must have been crossed. 😵‍💫

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Just the first sentence for what he said. That's why I said "somewhat negative". I've told him before that he likes almost everything so it was a little weird to hear him speak somewhat negatively about the music itself.

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”A great voice that surpassed her discography.”

In other words “A great voice which exceeded the amount of records she cut. The choice of music didn’t fit her beautiful voice. This led to less sales than others who had her abilities.”

Nothing negative about the same sentence constructed differently. Just more verbose.

We’ve all witnessed it with other recording artists. How many times have you felt s/he is such a great singer, but why sing that song? It doesn’t suit him/her. It would be akin to Frank Sinatra singing RAP! Great singer…horrible choice of music for him. “Just the facts, Mam/Sir!”

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His response to it was: "but she could have been bigger, given the correct song choice."

As I said, it was a somewhat negative comment. He usually finds the positive in most artists.

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Wan King: ”A great voice that surpassed her discography. Yes, she had half a dozen huge hits, but unfortunately lacked the consistency of many of her peers.”

You: ”You're actually speaking somewhat negatively about a respected artist?!?!”

This reply states he was speaking “somewhat negatively” about Roberta Flack herself. He was NOT.


”she could have been bigger, given the correct song choice.”

Then you shifted to he was speaking “somewhat negatively” about the MUSIC after I called you out.

”it was a little weird to hear him speak somewhat negatively about the music itself.”


So, which is it? Did he speak “somewhat negatively” about a “respected artist” or did he speak “somewhat negatively” about her music?

BTW, I do agree he spoke “Somewhat negatively“ about the music she sang.


I repeat “How many times have you felt s/he is such a great singer, but why sing that song? It doesn’t suit him/her.”

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This reply states he was speaking “somewhat negatively” about Roberta Flack herself. He was NOT.

It was the part where he said: she "unfortunately lacked the consistency of many of her peers." It was about her career, not her as a person or how talented she was. I think you're looking too far into this.

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Your very FIRST REPLY was:

”You're actually speaking somewhat negatively about a respected artist?!?!”

This sentence accused Wan King of speaking “somewhat negatively” about the artist, Roberta Flack. You can dance around it all you want, but that is what you wrote.

Then you tried to escape from your accusation by saying you meant the music. “Respected artist” does not equate with“it was a little weird to hear him speak somewhat negatively about the music itself.”

A third try to avoid what you wrote in the beginning: ”It was about her CAREER not her as a person” Sorry, yet again ” You're actually speaking somewhat negatively about a respected artist?!?!” does not equate with the choice of music or her career.



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Andy said she had hits but it wasn't consistent. That's not a criticism toward her as a person or her vocals, but her career. His response to me even specified that she "could have been bigger, given the correct song choice." That was her decision as an artist.

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For the life of me I don’t know why I continue to reply to you. It’s like beating a dead horse!🙄
The only excuse I have is me debating whether to evacuate or not from Hurricane Milton. It’s going to track right over me, but that could change to a more north or south track.

You:”Andy said she had hits but it wasn't consistent. That's not a criticism toward her as a person or her vocals, but her career.”

Finally!! You got it!! But, your very first reply to him was loud and clear! You chastised Wan King for “speaking somewhat negatively about a respected artist”.

You:”You're actually speaking somewhat negatively about a respected artist?!?!”

You were referring to a respected artist, a person, who in this case is Roberta Flack. You cannot define it as referring to her music or career. Neither music or career was not in your reply…only the artist.

Face it! You were at odds with him regarding a singer which is evident in your first reply.

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For the life of me I don’t know why I continue to reply to you. It’s like beating a dead horse!

I don't know why you're so upset.

Finally!! You got it!! But, your very first reply to him was loud and clear!

Her as a person and her career is still "her being a respected artist" even though they are two separate things. It's a knock on her career, but it's still a knock on her as an artist and not as a person.

Neither music or career was not in your reply…only the artist.

This is what Andy's first comment was: "A great voice that surpassed her discography. Yes, she had half a dozen huge hits, but unfortunately lacked the consistency of many of her peers."

He referred to her discography. You can see that he mentioned "her" when referring to her career. You said that there was nothing negative in Andy's original comment, but he literally used the words: "unfortunately lacked the consistency". That's not a positive.

You chastised Wan King for “speaking somewhat negatively about a respected artist”.

I don't think you understand what "chastised" means. He often jokes that he likes most music and I pointed out my shock of him saying a slight negative toward a big name like Roberta Flack because he usually never does it. I didn't criticize him for his opinion, nor tell him he was wrong. I didn't even mention it in an angry tone. I don't know where you're getting "chastised" from.

Face it! You were at odds with him regarding a singer which is evident in your first reply.

What odds? "Andy, I can't believe you said something slightly negative about a singer" isn't exactly me starting a war with words. It isn't anything other than an observation. As I said earlier, I think you're looking way too far into this.

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One of my very favorite singers.

"I Can See The Sun In Late December" is my favorite of hers.

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I’m listening to it again right now on your advice, it is a beautiful song.

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:)

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Her version of The First Time Ever I saw Your Face is one of the most beautiful things ever made by a human being.

How's that for some love?

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That’s a solid statement Parker👍

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Where is the love for this lovely woman’s voice?!!

Are you saying she's getting too much... flack?

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Not at all, just not enough love for this honey voice. She had a voice that should be remembered is all I meant Amigo.

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You know damn well what he meant! 🤨 This is just another one of your superficial, attention whore attempts at trying to appear clever and funny.

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It's pretty obvious I knew what he meant. This isn't exactly cryptic.

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Aww, knock off your attempts at trying to play semantics.

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I wasn't playing semantics. I clearly wasn't being serious. Note the ellipsis in the sentence used for comedic effect.

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"...used for comedic effect."

Exactly my point! What do you think "trying to appear clever and funny" means, dumbo?

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We should all try to get along for the sake of MC👍

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Oh Jeez, I just came across this. I thought a truce had been called?

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I have made quite a few attempts at civility lately but then db flips out again. All I said, and quite politely, was he can be ‘difficult,’ which he immediately demonstrated.

I would like to bury the hatchet, no apologies or explanations from either side and just forge ahead on this great site but it’s not easy when the other guy isn’t keen to it.

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Just stay cool my friend.

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Bro, you are like my Yoda.
I’m going to try and follow in your path🐸

*apologies, I don’t have a Yoda emojie.

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Try, or try not 😘

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A few, not "quite a few". There were some mutually civil comments, I think maybe 3 from my end. That's one of the problems right there, your tendency to misrepresent a situation. You claim to be honest but you actually lie like hell, and very consistently so.

Another thing, you want it both ways. You claim you want a truce yet simultaneously also want to keep taking your cheap little shots at me, once again double teaming me with joes. Granted, it's your thread but you should have just stayed out of it. I think at some point you even claimed you were trying to piss me off, so you just got what you wanted.

I never agreed to anything. I was taking a wait and see approach, feeling it out on a daily basis. That's the approach I took with hownos and over time it worked. He demonstrated to me he was for real about it.

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You mistake me.

Attend MCMC tonight, maybe participate in our ZOOM/Podcast meet and you will look in my eyes and see that I am honest and a loyal friend to people that act right.

I hope to see you there, this could be an end to this ridiculous feud👍

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That doesn't mean much. A lot of adept liars can do so with good eye contact. And of course, it's up to you to determine who is or isn't acting right. You've given yourself a lot of leeway there.

I was actually contemplating joining that. And just before this shit went down yesterday, I was actually looking at clips of Judd Hirsch to show you why I think you sound like him. A bit of irony there.

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Nope. Don’t deflect. We made some progress until you blew it all up for no reason.

You come aboard MCMC tonight. It’s a lot of fun.

I’m real and I’m a good friend to many good people. I’ve buried my hatchet, tossed the pistol in the pond. This is an honest peace offering so we don’t continue to muddy the waters here on this site.

✌️🍻

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Yeah, put it all on me.🙄 It takes two to make it and to break it. You definitely made your contributions to the rift yesterday. If you had stayed out of it, it would have demonstrated to me that maybe you're sincere. You and joes have been double-teaming me for years. If I get into it with one of you, I always expect the other to jump in quickly.

Another ironic coincidence. I had one of the worst neighbors here claim to me recently that she was a "good neighbor". I couldn't believe the unmitigated gall. She's been the exact opposite ever since she moved in. Actions speak louder than words.

Muddying the waters is yours and joes' style. I'm direct, straightforward. I cut through the bs.

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joes and I NEVER coordinate attacks on you, I love that dude but we barely PM.

Just show up tonight, join the gang, we’ll have some laughs and maybe a fun ZOOM MEET after.

I won’t bite👍

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I've never seen joes participate in any of those and it's strange to me that you're not inviting him since you seem to be such buddies.

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My buddy seems to prefer being left alone so I don’t bother him with PMs too often. I do this out of courtesy even though I do enjoy his jokes and banter. But all of that is neither here nor there.

Are you showing up for MCMC this evening, 9PM EST so you should be available to attend..?

I’d like to meet you.

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I volunteer to be the impartial referee since I like both of you guys.


Signed, million man.

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I do wish db would chime in on our MCMC nights and even ZOOM and the Podcast.

I DO think he has good taste in movies and music but we are both not going to take shit from anyone.

I hereby extend an Olive Branch to db. This is in no way an apology, just a sign that we can attempt to get along and our rather angry past is far behind us.

I’m down with some unity on MC.

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I believe if you guys met each other you would be friends.



Signed, million man.

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Oddly enough I feel the same way.

Or it could turn out to be the first case of mutual strangulation LOL!

I joke. I AM down to toss the spears into the brush, let’s await his response.

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Then why tell me that I knew what he meant when I made it obvious in my first post? You're just stating the obvious. But either way, I'd rather try to be funny than spread negativity like you.

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An oft admitted misanthrope now trying to be the clown on the board. So, you evolved from hating people to daily trying to be the center of attention here.

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I'm not the one who went to jail. You're not in the position to judge or question the attitudes of others.

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Like hell I'm not! Jail is a good learning experience about human behavior, you sanctimonious pos.

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Clearly it wasn't a good learning experience about human behaviour because you're still at it. You don't even realize that you're the one being sanctimonious because you replied to me when I wasn't even talking to you. But I suppose that when you dropped the soap in the slammer and Biff had his way with you, it turned you into the miserable, retired, divorced geriatric you are today.

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How lame! 😁 Indulging in a wishful fantasy and relying upon a cliche, when you don't have a clue about actual prison life, because you're such a pussy.

One of the only "miserable" aspects of my current life is your punk ass, attention whore presence in it.

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Calling me a pussy for never being in prison is a funny deflection to admit that you made incredibly stupid decisions in your life.

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It’s odd that my innocent thread about Roberta Flack and her amazing voice turned into a fight lol!

That db is amazing, if there’s any chance to cause a dust up he’s gonna jump in!

Sheesh.

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I think he just needs to release some anger because the orderlies at the mental hospital don't let him use the internet when he wants.

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I tried to be polite and he attacked me LOL!

Oh, and apparently you are a jerk off and a pos for cracking jokes.

I don’t know about this db dude, he just seems constantly upset.

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A hater of God paired with a hater of people and you want to try to label me as negative. Two of the most egregious phonies on this board. And my reaction to that has absolutely nothing to do with your thread topic.

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I’m being nothing but kind to you.


These people and this site deserve better than two guys endlessly bickering.

Calm down, forget the past, I can👍

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God created you so I think he has every right to feel how he does about God.

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Oh, so now, according to you, being retired is something to be judged and condemned for? And divorced, when the divorce rate in this country is around 60%? Have you ever even been married or had a girlfriend? Because I've never seen any evidence of a woman in your life, other than the imaginary ones you create to promote your stupid puns.

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I'm saying that all of that has made you grumpy.

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Talk about deflecting. 🙄 You not so deftly dodged answering the question about ever having a woman in your life.

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Why are you so upset? I thought the hatchets were buried.

SHEESH, Let’s all just move on already.

This constant anger from you makes MC an unhappy place to visit.

Calm down.

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Why are you so angry at God when you constantly want to brag about what you see as your success in pursuing The American Dream?

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You misread me of all the time!

I get it, you hate me even though I have been nice for a week or so now.
I am trying to be friendly.
I’ve been trying to come to peace for a week now.

I would suggest peace, we do not have to be friends but this endless feuding turns other posters off.

Let’s both cool it.
Peace✌️ or Scorched Earth..I’d prefer peace.

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I have. But I've also never spoken about my uncle on this site, but that doesn't mean that's evidence to suggest I don't have one. I've never heard you mention that you're a great father, so by your logic you aren't a good one because I haven't seen any evidence of it. You also conveniently seemed to omit your prison stint when speaking about why I shouldn't judge you.

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Hah! I'm the one that volunteered the information that I've been in prison, something you would never have the guts to do on this board.

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You said I was an admitted misanthrope many times. How is that me not revealing information?

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If I were to mention what a good dad I've been, that would be bragging, not evidence. And besides, you've already demonstrated repeatedly that anything personal I reveal here is going to be used against me by your snake-in-the-grass punk ass. Obfuscation, one of your immediate tactics in an argument, and you have the gall to try and lecture about logic. You're a fuckin' weasel, a punk.

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You've bragged about how physically great your body is at your age. Why are you drawing the line at saying you're a good father?

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I am your Father.

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Cool. Loan me $100?

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No, you cannot borrow the car.

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Another false allegation as usual. I never claimed to have a great body. I said I've aged well and still have good muscle tone. I was setting the record straight, refuting your constant attempts at trying to make me appear as a decrepit, broken down old man. I'm guessing you're probably morbidly obese. That's why there's never been a woman in your life.

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I said I've aged well and still have good muscle tone.

That's what "physically great" means. And you only said that after the time I injured my fall and said that I wasn't in shape.

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There you go again, playing semantics, trying to rewrite the dictionary, while simultaneously pulling out the "woe is me" victim card, and you wonder why I call you a pussy.

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I was setting the record straight, refuting your constant attempts at trying to make me appear as a decrepit, broken down old man.

"Woe is me" victim card.

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More semantics. That's self defense, something you've often claimed in response to my alleged "attacks" on you. Keep twisting and distorting, pussy!

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Yeah, I'm into semantics and you're into some antics but try to claim you're well liked here and are error free.

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More highly exaggerated false claims. You're the sanctimonious one. I provided you with the perfect fodder to get all holier than thou with me.

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And I've provided you with links of your assholeness after claiming you get along with almost everyone and you conveniently made excuses for all of them. I find it funny that you have so much of a problem with me being, in your words, an "attention whore", but you make excuses about your stint in prison and your behaviour about how you have treated many people on this site.

You: "Boooo! I hate attention whores and I will constantly remind everyone!"

Also you: "Me being in prison is what it is and I shouldn't be judged for that. Stop bringing it up."

Your standards are laughable and aren't really convincing us that you didn't deserve to be in the slammer.

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More lies and distortion. I never once claimed I didn't deserve it. You and one other poster are the only ones to use that against me. No one else here seems to have a problem with it. I think that says something about my status here.

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You and SemiAnimus are the only two users who have called me an attention whore. By your logic, since you're the only two, you're in the wrong. You two are also conveniently the only two who have mentioned my physicality and are both grammar/spelling Nazis.

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I'm glad someone else noticed that about you. I guess you really are morbidly obese then, and it's why there's never been a woman in your life. Is that also what makes you a hater of people?

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There have been women, just not many recently. As for my weight, I'm Canadian. We don't do morbidly obese here.

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I don’t think any of our long time posters here are terrible people.

I’m requesting that we try to all get along. I know that I’ve been a frequent combatant in these brush wars in the past but let’s all try to get along from now on, it will strengthen our favorite chat site.

Let’s put aside our animosities and build MC.

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We should all attempt to get along for the sake of MC👍

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I can get along just fine, it's the guy above who always seems to be the common factor of negativity.

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I’m 100% a Pal of yours and some people can be difficult but we should let it roll off.

I get you Amigo.

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I think he's more upset now because someone is pretending to be him on Filmboards. He said he keeps checking back. It must bother him a lot.

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What you think is wrong as usual, jerk off. I'm very dismissive of that impersonation, other than being curious about what's being posted. Attention whores are easily prone to jealousy. Maybe that's your problem, because no one over there has ever put in the time and effort to impersonate you. 🤔

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Maybe that's your problem, because no one over there has ever put in the time and effort to impersonate you.

You were the one complaining about the impersonation, and now you're using it as a badge of honour to try to win an argument.

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Oh, so once again you're suggesting I'm the "difficult" one here when we've recently had some civil exchanges after years of intense feuding. Never mind, have at it. Back to square one.

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"But your honour I can't be guilty, I haven't harassed anyone lately".

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"Harass, attack"...yadda, yadda. You just can't handle valid, accurate criticism.

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"Accurate" doesn't mean what you think it means.

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Yes, you are difficult. I have very pleasant PMs from you from years ago that are very positive and friendly. We used to get along just fine

But you have changed. It does not need to be this way.

We can all get along, none of us are kooks.


You seem to seek negativity.

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"You seem to seek negativity."

Says the guy who hates God, indulges in road rage during his daily commute, armed with a screwdriver and framing hammer of all things, intent on doing vicious bodily harm. The guy whose own family wants to see him gone, to the point of being buried.🙄

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I have admitted that I am armed at all times, you are correct.
I plan on putting up a violent fight when confronted. Truth is I have and so have most people when cornered.

Why can’t you just get along with others?

It’s a really odd behavior.
We can all get along, but you just seem constantly angry.

Just cool it✌️

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" ...you just seem constantly angry."

Says the guy who recently admitted to being constantly angry and didn't try to deny that he had been projecting onto me. 🙄

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I’m not denying that I’m often upset by the world and three steps from a weapon.

I AM heavily armed and will not be killed easily.

But why can’t you simply get along with others?


*eta: I don’t know what you mean by ‘projecting on to me’ means.

I am ALWAYS up for a fight any fucking time but I feel like I’m
being real polite to you the last week or so.

You choose.

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I get along with others just fine. I don't get along with phonies like you.

Fuck off! You just saw my last attempt at trying to get along with you.

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What a shame, I had hopes that we could have made beautiful music together.

But you wimped out✌️

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You're the wimp because you're a samoanjoes ass kisser. And fuck you with your phony, peace sign emoji. The fact that we can't get along rests with you.

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I have been attempting to be polite.

We both love MC, let’s keep it free of anger db.

We can change.

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I thought it was funny 🤷‍♂️

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That's because you got a sense of humour and don't salivate waiting for an attempt to spread negativity.

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Life is too short.

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Hey, "Life's Too Short" is a decent short-lived comedy series with Warwick Davis.

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Her voice is indeed beautiful, and so serene. I can play Killing Me Softly on the piano and when no one else is around I'll sing along. 😊

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I want a ticket to that show😄

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😊

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