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Strategies to help stop objectifying girls and women?


I admit that I objectify women both consciously and subconsciously. For example in my mind I always judge a woman by her attractiveness. I tend to give more attractive women a second glance as they pass by. Based on how attractive I perceive her, I make assumptions about things like her personality and interests. Sometimes I may act different based on the type of woman I interact with (either more outgoing or silent, accommodating or distant.) There's probably other things I do but can't think of that probably fall the umbrella of objectification.

I'm wondering what I can do to stop me from objectifying girls and women. I'm asking sincerely and do not mean to be ironic in the topic. I want to be a better person. Thanks for your input.

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I'm not sure what you're describing is all that much of a problem really. If you switch the word 'objectify' for a word such as 'dehumanise' you get a better sense of what's meant by it and where the issue would lie.

You aren't going to stop yourself from noticing that a sexually attractive person is a sexually attractive person. That's perfectly normal and natural and fine. And you don't need to, as long as you bear in mind the 'person' part. You aren't wolf-whistling anyone or shouting out horrible sexualised things at women in the street or describing any kind of misbehaviour really -- you're just... noticing. That doesn't strike me as objectifying behaviour. Just ordinarily human.

*Shrug*

Based on how attractive I perceive her, I make assumptions about things like her personality and interests.


As for this part, I suspect that most people do something like this subconsciously. I think there's a long-standing association in society between attractiveness and goodness, for example. And with unattractiveness and wickedness. That goes right back in literature.

And you're consciously aware of the tendency in yourself, and consciously aware that it's a bit silly. Being consciously aware of it is the first step towards correcting it.

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Thank you for the input, I appreciate it! You make good points and I also agree that being aware of "pre-judgement" is a good step towards improving myself in this matter.

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Eh. I wouldn't be too hard on yourself really. We're bombarded with this stuff. It's like wearing eye-glasses being movie shorthand for 'smart' or, for women, sometimes 'dowdy'.

Or the common association between being pretty and stupid (for both men and women). 'Brains and beauty', like it's an oxymoron.

I think most people go through life without examining this stuff and their own biases to see if it makes any sense, so I think you're one up on most folk just through being thoughtful enough to question it all.

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Accept that part of being human is men ogling beautiful women, and women getting drenched over men who exhibit all the traits of being a solid provider

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Noticing someone's attractiveness is just having working eyes. But "always" judging a woman by her attractiveness, what does that mean? How far beyond just noticing does that extend? How deep does that go? Would you, for example, treat a plain looking female manager like she was less capable just because you aren't attracted to her? Would you likewise think a smoking hot female manager was too pretty to be good at a leadership role?

If this affects how you treat people long-term in a negative way, especially people with whom you interact regularly, or if you're unable to see past just appearance to who a woman is as a person, then it's probably worth examining why. Or if you can, start pretending they're men.

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Thanks for the response! I guess my answers for your questions is that I try not to treat women differently based on attractiveness if I'm working with them professionally. I might fail sometimes but I'm able to treat everyone equally for the most part.

But I guess if all else fails, I'll use your advice and start thinking of people in a more gender-neutral manner. I've already thought about doing this.

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Good luck. There's nothing wrong with being attracted to someone, it's just about how you treat people that matters.

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I don't really interact with women in my daily life outside of family and those I worked with before I lost my job. If you act differently based around those you find attractive hate to break it to you but that's pretty normal. I think it's really about knowing how to read a room. If you find a woman at work attractive and you're both single don't ever act on it. That's a good way to get called into HR. Don't ever cold approach women in public as it's dangerous to do so. You are giving her the power of that interaction and she'll destroy you in seconds. Who cares what you do consciously or subconsciously. These are the effects of the so called MeToo movement and Radical Feminism. Women are by large very cold blooded creatures and will ruin your life instantly if you do something they don't like.

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For a moment I thought you were looking for Strategos, but I see my help is not needed here.

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None of the things in the OP are a problem. Do you think women don't do the exact same thing with men? Or even other women in the case of lesbians? Sexuality is not a pathology. People are such prudes now days.

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My advice, don't worry about it. Men and women are different. You're confusing normal sexual attraction with objectification. You probably judge men differently based on their appearance as well even where there is no sexual attraction. You make assumptions about fat bald guys and tall well-dressed guys, right? Is that objectification?

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Thanks for the input. Yeah, I'm aware that I judge men, too. But yeah, I shouldn't worry about it too much.

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