This guy's nailed it!
This guy's a genius. Exactly how I see it, is how he explains it. I can't believe so many more matured women (particularly 40 onward), can't figure this out.
https://youtu.be/MPYCPiJ_n7Y
This guy's a genius. Exactly how I see it, is how he explains it. I can't believe so many more matured women (particularly 40 onward), can't figure this out.
https://youtu.be/MPYCPiJ_n7Y
I didn't watch the video, but if there are any attractive 43-year-old women out there, I'd happily date them. Although I do want kids, assuming they are still capable of giving birth, I'm not going to judge them for being in their forties.
shareYou should watch at least half of it. But why not be judgmental of them? They're very much that way with us. I can't believe that some people are still so confounded by are social network today, and what it's become. It's been made into a literal game of one-upmanship. With all of these expectations many have the nerve to foist onto others. I'm talking about attitudes of "he asked me on the date, he should pay". Besides, he's the man. Or, what can he offer me for how good I see myself for a so called worthy man. We've made relationships and courtship so complicated and problematic it's no wonder many now, just say "fu*k it"! not worth it! Or some people just become so bitter and disillusioned they may start wondering if it would just be easier being gay.
shareChanging your sexual preference because of bad relationships and poor prospects for future relations is valid now? God save us all (and I say that as a non-theist).
shareI've known many women who left abusive relationships with men and became lesbians. It's quite common actually.
shareI don't know if I'd consider changes done under terrible stressors as "valid." And if it were valid does it kind of offset the entire "born this way" argument for any sexual preference?
shareI've never believed we are born with any set sexual orientation. I think it develops slowly through childhood and usually becomes set after puberty and perhaps some experimentation.
We've all heard of men who are married to a woman and have children and then decide they're gay when they're in their 40's.
I don't think women change quickly under stress. I think some lesbians associate men with violence, women are soft and more appealing, and it just comes naturally.
I have a massive amount of respect for lesbians, but the irony is that some of the least soft and non-violent women, in my experience, are often lesbians...
I like women who stand up for themselves, and aren't dainty and weak, BUT I've seen so many stories of lesbian couples who've abused/killed their own children, especially when they were boys...
Yes there are the classic bulldykes with a ducktail haircut who rides a motorcycle. But there are the softer femme types as well. Or ... there's just your average woman. We're not all stereotypes!
shareI hate lesbians.
shareYOU SUCK...BUT GOOD POINTS...I AGREE.
shareI believe we that sexual orientation is inborn.
Because a shit-ton of heterosexual dislike the opposite sex, but even those that want to can't change.
Tell me the gods honest truth of what you felt when you first seen a skin magazine of the opposite sex. I'm going with a skin magazine, because I suspect that's usually how most young people first get a good look at the opposite sex naked. I know when I seen one as a kid and looked at a hot Centre fold wide spread, I just wanted it! lol. So I know I was straight from a young age.
shareThat doesn't conflict with anything I said. When I was in kindergarten I had crushes on both boys and girls. I was bisexual even then. I believe as Freud did that sexuality begins with idolization of different male and female roles before you're 5.
When I was an adolescent I "experimented" with boys my own age who went on to marry women and have children.
It's more fluid than most will admit.
THANKS for shoe horning in homosexuality (or whatever fifty terms it is now days). Can't go one thread, even about hetero relationships, with out going off track and gay.
Gotta love current world trends.
It's a lot less natural than most will admit. Thus, the variety of issues surrounding it. CONSTANTLY.
Meanwhile, back to this thread about STRAIGHT PEOPLE.....
Hahaha. The straight male can't control the dialog and he's angry!!!🤣
Why am I not surprised the straight guy thinks it has to be about him all the time? And then you wonder why women are considering other options.
This thread is about a middle aged woman wondering why she can't find a partner. She needs to expand her dating pool when straight males are chasing after younger fertile options. It's not all about breeding.
Give us are fucking 20%, you raging homophobe.
Just remember, the government secretly despises gays and bisexuals. They've just come to sort of accept that it's a necessary evil to accept you people. Eventually, you'll all be shuffled back into your closets where you belong. Our societies can't be sustained with useless people who can't procreate.
shareHahaha. In an overpopulated world unchecked breeding is what we do not want.
Oh please, they're all fawning over Pete Buttigieg. (Whom I detest by the way).
The world's going back to the way it was 2000 years ago in terms of bisexuals and homo's. In ancient Greece and Rome it was a sexual free-for-all.
The Bible and Christianity no longer rules the world. Nobody cares who you fuck anymore, cretin.
So you agree with some dude's broad generalized opinions and open speculation? Okay, you're entitled to whatever helps you feel validated.
Have you ever thought about going outside and experiencing real social situations for yourself, though?
I never watch people ranting on youtube, life is too short.
So could someone be a doll and summarize this rant in one or two sentences?
Thanks in advance!
1 yadda yadda yadda
2 blah blah blah
Ditto.
shareA 43 year old woman claims she's still hot. And complains about being single and having troubles finding the right men (so typical). The male host says she's an unrealistic woman with a sense of entitlement. But what's really ironic, is another woman tells the woman complaining, she has sky high ridiculous expectations for a 43 year old and can't compete with younger women...lol. Very well put!
shareIs there a photo of the 43-year-old woman? Maybe she *is* still hot.
shareEither way, she's too fuc*ing old! Too old to try starting a family with, as you said you would like. And if you watch the video, you'll realize just how demanding and convoluted our society has become. Because as it's explained, since many women now can make just as much $ as many men or even more, they could meet decent men time and time again, but if he's not making just as much as her or more, she will likely cast him aside.
shareAh, the usual Incel bullshit. I thought so. So! If the woman in question is old to start a family, which BTW is not necessarily true*, then a woman past child-bearing age has no reason to pair up except love! So why should a 43-year-old woman settle for some asshole who'll treat her like dirt and expect her to clean up after him for the rest of her life? If she wants to share finances or just have company in the house, she can move in with a friend, who one who is far more likely pull their weight around the house and be decent company. Because for a straight woman who presumably isn't out to start a family, the pressure to procreate while she can is off, and dating is a question of just finding someone who's a step up from being single, which FYI many straight men are most definitely not.
You really seem to be fixated on the idea that all women should be as desperate to pair up as you are, and you keep noticing that that's not the case, and refusing to accept it. Dude, objecting to reality doesn't work! And whining about women not wanting you isn't going to make women want you. If you're as desperate as you sound, put your effort into becoming someone that someone else might want, not whining that the world of heterosexuality isn't what you wish it is.
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* I've known of women having surprise pregnancies in their mid-forties. BIG surprise pregnancies!
"which BTW is not necessarily true*...
...I've known of women having surprise pregnancies in their mid-forties."
We are in agreement on this one, Otter! 👍🏼
Where I do take disagree with you slightly, is the part about 'whining'.
Many men *and* women, including, arguably, this 43-year-old woman, are inclined to 'whine' about their singledom. Instead of taking a sexist view on this matter, I prefer to see both lonely men and lonely women as more alike than either misogynists or female supremacists would care to admit. They're 'incels', but not in the way the word has been appropriated and perverted by misogynists. They're simply lonely people who are bitter and angry at the world, because of their loneliness, but not necessarily bitter and angry with people of the opposite sex; just bitter and angry with the world in general, and not necessarily in a *violent* or *aggressive* way. In fact, depressed and frustrated may be a better way of putting it.
Like this 43-year-old woman, there may be many men, and indeed many other women, who are fundamentally decent people, but no-one is looking beyond their tendency to whine/feel sorry for themselves, and so they are sadly caught in a spiral. Maybe this 43-year-old woman is a secret beauty, but no-one is willing to give her chance. And, like I say, that may also apply to some of the men you're arguably deriding here.
Maybe some of these women and men *are* trying, but they can't help but 'whine', as you put it, because things still haven't fallen into place for them.
Going from what I've heard, it gets more difficult for women as far as pregnancy and childbirth is concerned with age. My mom had me at 35, and it took lots out of her, she almost died.
shareAnd sure enough, your momma's late baby had a low IQ! HAHAHAHAAAAA!!!
Seriously, though, like all people with no clue about themselves, you're doing exactly what you accuse others of doing - being too picky! You think you can get a young and attractive woman, even though you'd have to beat out 90% of the other men in your area to do so, and all the young and attractive women are holding out for a man who's either 1) rich or 2) just not a jerk. So while you are willing to quote statistics about women's chances you're not willing to look at your own, which are so low you need to be forget about young and attractive single women, and look for someone who'd be willing to put up with a jerk like you. Which means, yeah, single mothers who desperately need someone who can help pay the rent, and as a bonus she'd already have proven her fertility!
J-lo looks fantastic and she's 50
shareMen want younger women with their whole lives in front of them. It's natures design. Men look for attractive youthful women. It's just ingrained in our natures to seek youthful healthy women who are fertile, for procreation sake. Any man who says otherwise is lying.
shareSo, if most men want youthful attractive women of adult breeding age, say age 20-40, that brings p the problem that most women are NOT aged 20-40, a large majority of human females are older or younger than that! And that's not even bringing in the question of "all men" wanting the most attractive minority of women within that age group.
So in your head, you've set up a cosmos where all adult men are competing to attract a tiny minority of adult women, and you wonder why you aren't having more success??? If you want one of the same 5% of women that all the other men want, are you out there being among the 5% handsomest, the fittest men on the meat market, prepared to both support a family and be the best dad in the world, and pick up after yourself like a responsible adult???
No, of course you're not, you're a jerk and a whiner! And you're the one being ridiculously entitled, not the 43-year-old woman.
A desperate answer of denial. That makes little to no sense. Rather typical of women as far as talking about whatever with men. They'll argue black is white, just for the sake of being able to argue and somehow make themselves feel like they're right. Your gas lighting! If older women like this dumb ass 43 year old knew what's good for them, they would be easy fucking peezy and spread like peanut butter. Not necessarily for just any man, but a decent enough one their attracted to and intrigued with enough to show interest in. And eventually they would find men who would want to be with them. Rather than this playing hard to get, one date two date three date bs. If any women indicates that to me, that's what their like, I'll dump her on the spot, especially an older one.
shareYou like to talk about women's chances like you've analyzed them mathematically, but you completely refuse to accept how low your odds of getting what you want are! You want a woman who's young and physically attractive, like most straight men, and you sure as hell aren't looking at your statistical chances there! No, young and attractive women know they're scarce and they can have just about any man they want, and none of them want a twerp like you. Even the "hot 43 year-old" you keep whinging about would rather stay home with the cat.
And not only are you a picky bastard who complains about others being picky, you're desperate and accuse ME of desperation! You really don't have a clue about yourself.
Fyi, I have a high IQ. The highest I've scored is 144. I think 150 is considered a genius. So there! Your wrong about my IQ lol. And, there's lots of young women who like me. A restaurant I go to often, has lots of young women working there, and believe me, many have liked me and flirted with me, and well it's even gone a bit further than that with some lol. Me a picky bastard... I've banged chunky women as well. I've actually been told by some friends I'm to accepting, and need to be more selective. You think you know me, but clearly don't. Your just another self righteous women who is almost certainly has an overbearing sense of entitlement.
shareHigh IQ? AHAHAHAAAAAAA!!! Says the guy who thinks it's the women who are being too picky!!!
And you think waitresses are interested in you, and not interested in getting tips large enough to cover their rent. If you hadn't already revealed yourself to be an gormless idiot in so many other ways, that alone would be proof.
🤣WHAT A MAROON.
shareSo, if most men want youthful attractive women of adult breeding age, say age 20-40, that brings up the problem that most women are NOT aged 20-40, a large majority of human females are older or younger than that! And that's not even bringing in the question of "all men" wanting the most attractive minority of women within that age group, and if you do, that means according to you all the adult straight men are competing for about 5% of the adult women.
So in your head, you've set up a cosmos where all adult men are competing to attract a tiny minority of adult women, and you wonder why you aren't having more success??? If you want one of the same 5% of women that all the other men want, are you out there being among the 5% handsomest and the fittest men on the meat market, are you preparing to both support a family and be the best dad in the world, and making a habit of picking up after yourself like a responsible adult, so you won't be more trouble than you're worth to a woman who can easily replace you???
No, of course you're not, you're sitting here whining instead of hitting the gym, working overtime, or picking up after yourself! Which means you're the one being ridiculously entitled, not the 43-year-old woman.
Halle Berry is 57 and still a stunner!
shareShe might be smoking hot, but is not used to missing the kind of attention she got even 10 years ago. If she put her "hot girl pix" up on Tinder at age 33 and maybe cheats a little and sets her age at 27, she was getting matched with an overwhelming number of guys. That is going to create a choosy mindset, which doesn't work as well when choices are more limited.
shareWhy are you so obsessed with women over 40?
shareWell, because I'm over 40, surprise! And I'm sad to say, that the women where I live over 40 are all miserable, unrealistic bitches like the one who is the subject of this video. I would rather be with women in their 20's, because not only are they much prettier, but they tend to have much better attitudes. They're fun! But the society we live in now villainizes men for seeking younger women if their more middle aged.
shareI don’t even have to watch it. A woman’s value on the dating market place decreases as she gets older. But women typically raise their own standards, while their value is decreasing. It’s a recipe to end up alone. There are good men out, you just think you deserve better
shareGetting pickier is a normal part of the aging process, as people grow and mature they become more aware of what they like and what they want out of life, and care less about what other people think or expect. And a bit of life experience does tend do teach us the difference between what other people tell us they can offer, and what they can really* offer. It's part of what people used to call "getting set in his/her ways".
So when it comes to dating, a few people get desperate when they get older, but more get picky. They realize there's no reason to waste time on a relationship with someone who's fundamentally incompatible, or at least there's no point in wasting more than a couple of nights.
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* https://www.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/relatable-funny-memes-jokes-127-649006c0c874c__700.jpg
That’s fine until they reach the point where they can no longer attract the men that they want, and they complain about it, like the woman in the open posters example.
You talk a lot about what they want, but nothing about what they have to offer. Chances are if Mr perfect does exist, there are a lot of woman after him, and if a man has options, he may not be looking for a 43 year old divorced mother of 3 that thinks she deserves the world. He’s going to opt for someone with less baggage.
That’s not to say it’s over for woman after a certain point, but when you are older, and have baggage your value has been lowered. So you have to adjust.
It's a bit rich for a bunch of Incels to say that it's wrong for women to be picky, to have high expectations, and complain when they don't get what they want... when you guys have devoted your lives to being picky, having ridiculously high expectations, and complaining!
Really, everyone with their eyes open knows that part of the Incel Creed is: "It is wrong for women to want a man who is handsome, prosperous, well-groomed, and well-behaved. And it is right for men to demand a woman who is beautiful, perfectly groomed, financially stable, and forgiving!". Seriously, the "hot 43-year-old" has presumably done what you guys do all the time, but she seems to have done rather less of it.
The “hot 43 year old” is the one complaining that she can’t find a man. So yes it’s wrong to be picky when it’s not working.
If you are going to make ad hominem against me, then prove your point. Where have I complained about not being able to find a woman? If I’ve dedicated my entire life to this, and I do it all the time, then it shouldn’t be hard to come up with a single post.
^^^ This guy also nails it.
It's very obvious. But, seems like it is not obvious at all to the women themselves? I mean, how can it NOT be? By not being realistic?
As a guy, I am keenly aware of EXACTLY where and how I fit in the order of mate selection now. I can thus downplay my low points and tout my high points. But, I'm not going to ever walk around saying, "Well, I'm a 10 (I'm maybe a 4 at this point, maybe a 7 to some) and even at my AGE, I deserve to bang any hot 18-28 year olds I want to."
If I said that, I would be living in fantasy land... well, quite LITERALLY there. I'm not going to lie to myself and those around me. I'm going to face my faults, and BETTER myself as needed.
[for my idiot lurker fans, I'm already in a great relationship, but the study of social interaction is of high interest to me like a hobby, so I am speaking GENERALLY, not about >>>MY<<< specific situation. IF I was still out there, I would note my faults, and improve them]
It's very obvious. But, seems like it is not obvious at all to the women themselves? I mean, how can it NOT be? By not being realistic?
soooo true. I never once pondered my GF's INCOME, like ever. it's not what I was looking for. And I'm aware my incoming, standing, ability to protect and provide played into her choice. NOTHING is equal, and it doesn't have to be. Men and women are simply different. Yet combine so very well! :)
Shame people won't listen to good advice about reality, and instead call out misogy and "incel"
THIS GUY HAS NAILED IT!
THAT TITLE IS DRIVING ME NUTS.
I've seen these types of videos. They are spot on.
But here, if you agree with the truthful REALITY it talks about women's current delusional perspective on things, people who are not even interested in this topic, and won't even observe the video to see if it rings true will immediately start calling you names like misogynist, incel, woman hate etc..... with out even bothering to examine the free information presented in the video.
How insane is that?
YOU have experienced the things in the video, I have too, and know many friends who have also..... yet you are an incel. How fucking stupid have people become online?
Any way, great video, so true that people don't want to hear it and can't face reality, and hide behind empty insults about something they are not even interested in, and have zero experience with.
Maybe it’s time the mods added an Incel board for you and the four other guys here who are having these issues.
sharebut we are not "Incels" at all. Why do you jump to baseless conclusions, instead of holding an adult conversation about the topic?
Maybe because I was right and called you out?
- you are NOT really interested in the topic of current dating delusions
- you didn't bother watching the video
- your kneejerk judgmental reaction is immature name calling, because that is your best defense? sad.
do you even know what an INCEL is? Maybe learn the definition, AND about the people you label before using the term. :)
Maybe WATCH part of the video that this ENTIRE THREAD is about before talking. Otherwise... why are you here?
Honey, the only delusion happening here is loser guys thinking that they can stop women from being picky.
sharei dont know what you guys don't get here: the video explains it easy. 40 YO women cant compete with 20 YO. it's simple physics of reality.
they can remain picky ALL THEY WANT... and remain alone with cats or whatever.
I have a female aquaintence RIGHT NOW who tells me over and over and OVER how "happy she is being single, making her life", while from the other side of her mouth, she tried to date me (I was not interested at all and was completely direct) and she has dated 3+ guys since then. if she so happy, why she looking???? oh that's right, because she is not REALLY happy.
And believe me, she is NOT YOUNG, and NOT great looking. Her ship has long sailed. Fucking delusional.
THEY don't even see their self defeating delusions.
YES, guys WILL fuck her, and she'll let them - her choice - but not helping her to be happy being single because she can't find a guy.... it is EXACTLY like this video you guys are not interested in, and not watching.
.... yet WE are wrong somehow. Fucking laughable at this point, your perspectives are.
You really do think that atteactive women should be as desperate as you are, don't you.
Honey, if you want both young and desperate, start dating young single mothers! Low-income young sinle mothers. Sure you think you're out of their league, but well. You seem to have a very inflated idea of who is and isn't in your league, since none of the women you think are on your level are interested.
AGAIN.... Again, Otter.... I don't understand YOUR issue about ME. I'm not "desperate", I'm taken, I'm happy. Why do you keep putting things on me that are not even closely related to the topic? None of this is about ME, its about delusion. Stay on the topic. I guess you really can't.
You hate me because I have a distaste for butt fucking? Okay, far enough. Since you seem unable to separate your HATE for straight people, I guess we shouldn't talk. Even though I have tried and tried with you.
I see how TOLERANCE from gays really doesn't work, now does it. Bye. I'm just going to ignore you, you can keep blathering on about ME when I'm nothing like you think. What a wasted conversation.
If you're taken, WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH OTHER WOMEN AND THE DATING SCENE??? And why didn't you remember you "had a girlfriend" in your last ten posts?
Seriously, I'm about done taunting you. Just give my sympathies to your girlfriend (snicker), and the password to your phone and computer too. She deserves to know.
Yeah, we live in a women's society now for sure. Men and children are of minimal concern, especially men. This generation is majorly fucked up! And I can assure people that the government may say this and that and come across as pro gay and so on, but the government doesn't like gays. Infact, I'm sure there's a contingency of the government that hates gays just as much as many still do. Why do I say that you might ask; well because gays are useless to society since they can't contribute in the most vidal way by not reproducing. And many countries now have very low birth rates already, even among people who are straight.
sharethat makes far too much logical, realistic, fact provable, reasonable, actual life sense for people to comprehend and deal with, on the internet, and this forum.
At least we know some people out there, like you, can comprehend these true realities. While the crazies hide in name calling, and fantasy land of passing laws that will help some people and not others. they're so fucking dumb, I'm really tired.... wait, WE (vast majority of thinking, reasoning people) are really tired of placating their whims. backlash of reality is coming. kick a sleeping giant.... guess what? he wakes up mad. :)
Here's the original article this video is based on:
https://archive.ph/r4TyP
This woman will have to expect she will be a step mom at her age if she finds a decent guy, who will probably not want to have more kids. A pregnancy for her will be of higher risk for the child to have defects. She should have started to look for a serious mate at least in her late 20s, not "five years ago", at the age of 38.