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See my thread about HarveyManFredSin


https://moviechat.org/nm0001674/Chris-Rock/6405125870dcfb13f565df0b/HarveyManFredSin-is-a-Foreign-National-Troll-Pot-Stirring-About-US-Culture-Again

I don't know what this guy's story is, but he's either disinfo or maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe he's just some sociopath using the forums to practice learning how to confuse and manipulate people, so he can do it offline. I've caught him many times trying to confuse posters into thinking he's "one of them," as well as talk out of both sides of his mouth. He is the type of poster who says stuff like, "I'm a male feminist who also understands that some women definitely don't mind being cheated on, slapped around a little or getting forced into a life of subservience. After all, feminism is about choice, isn't it? So, what's wrong if some women want that?" (Or something like that.)

So, just be careful interacting with this poster. He plays mind games.

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I see a butthurt little bitch.

Signed, million man.

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I see my ignore button. Have a nice day. *PLONK*

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https://youtu.be/z_5J1csi1AU


Thanks for proving my point about being a butthurt bitch. And if I cared about you ignoring me I wouldn't have said it in the first place.


Signed, million man.

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HE IGNORED ME TOO...HE IS A MAGNUM SIZED DILDO.🙂

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High five.

Signed, million man.

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His profile here is just some sort of social experiment. I know we all come here to waste time, but this guy is just WAY too ridiculous, and has WAY too much time on his hands. He posts absolute nonsense that's not worth trying to understand.

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I think he's either a sociopath using the internet to learn how to hone his skills in the real world or maybe an "agent" working on behalf of something larger. I know that sounds conspiratorial, but that guy who murdered those four students from Ohio recently was more or less doing the same thing on Reddit. He actually went on there to interact with Redditors and earn their trust to learn how to kill his victims.

This is why I will continue posting PSAs about this guy. Trolls you can usually mess around with for shits and giggles, but if "Harvey" is a bona-fide sociopath using MC to practice his skills in the real world or attached to disinfo in some way, he can't be enabled.

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How long has he been on this site?

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Going by his posting history, I'd say he's been here fairly recently, about a month. His earliest archived post is from a month ago: https://moviechat.org/tt1655389/Blonde/6352e7f7edcfd32646f128b0/She-was-mistreated-by-white-men-hetro-white-men?reply=63d8cb699019b372021bdec2

But I have a suspicion that he might have spent months prior lurking the forum to carefully study everyone here and learn how to pick their brains in order to manipulate the regulars.

There's something more sinister about this guy other than "basement dwelling troll." Now he's posted threads about "psychological abuse" and "gaslighting", which outs him as someone who's well-schooled in psychological concepts and is very eager to maybe put them to the test at MC for Lord knows why.

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Well, I make it a habit never to trust ANY message board posters.

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RCNYC24 HAS ALSO BEEN HERE A MONTH...COINCIDENCE?🤔

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Sounds like it could be an elaborate scheme.

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I don't know what he is trying to accomplish here, when he can just ignore him like he does to everyone else. What a tool.

Signed, million man.

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Damn detective Kowalski aced it! HarveyManFredSin and rcnyc24 are one and the same. Alts of TheMan18.

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I find him difficult to figure out.

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Same here.

What I do know for certain is that he's using this forum as a type of training, like he just picked up a Dark Web version of How to Win Friends and Influence People and is trying to figure out all these techniques he learned at Movie Chat. What I can't tell is if he's just trying to practice so he can use these techniques for personal reasons (like the Ohio murderer who went on Reddit before killing those kids) or whether he's just a troll farmer who was assigned to MC and has someone over his shoulder going, "Okay, see this poster? When they say this, say that. If they respond like X, say Y."

He's practicing, no doubt. He's particularly practicing this Orwellian tactic of saying two opposing things at once, as in, "As a progressive, I'm appalled at how racist progressives are against white people or refuse to criticize blacks," or something to that effect.

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Even though some people are giving you shit here, I agree he specializes in gaslighting like you say. He’s not discourteous though. I also agree with your take that every one of his posts is designed purely to stir the pot on provocative cultural issues.

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It's actually pretty simple. His usual post goes something like "As a staunch progressive who bends over backwards to be more woke than thou, I would like to support a right-wing talking point while pretending I am not.".

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Hilariously accurate. Like when samoanjoes does TheMan18 impression

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What is an impression? Is it to some degree, but not entirely, an imitation of some sort? And do humans, and possibly animals in certain contexts, have the capacity to understand the concept, or it possibly not a concept?

Cheers

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An impression can be an imitation or a satire, or both!

And yeah, some animals do impressions, mockingbirds will imitate other species of birds... and apparently they get no gain from loudly imitating other birds, but to annoy other species. They're the trolls of the animal world!

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I figured him out. It's TheMan18 in disguise (who also happens to be the opening poster in this thread rcnyc24) Why they have so many accounts and post so much is beyond me. Bots? A weirdo seeking attention?

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Usually a mod can tell if they're the same accounts.

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Not if using a VPN. You should know better than that.

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I've had mods confirm that two people were not the same after I accused them of being the same.

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Do you not realize by now that they don't know what they're doing?? Just because they don't look that way to them doesn't mean that they're not the same because that's how it is when you use a VPN.

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Like they give a flying fuck. Haha.

They could I'm sure but they have previous with protecting TheMan18. They don't care how many accounts he has going, it's not against the rules I believe to have several accounts so he's technically not doing anything wrong.

Still his mentality intrigues me. He's off his rocker and I'm not sure what he gets out of all this. Given how prolific he is I would give some thought towards them being bots but ultimately he's too responsive and his peculiar posting style is too faulty, it's human error, a bot could speak proper english at least.

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Looking quickly over the terms of service, it looks like you're right that multiple accounts don't violate the rules.

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it's not against the rules I believe to have several accounts so he's technically not doing anything wrong.

Do not attempt to evade these Standards or the enforcement thereof by creating multiple accounts, using different IP addresses or proxies, or any other means of evasion

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One of Keelai's socks in my opinion.

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I don't see that his posts have much of anything in common with Keelai's.

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I haven't had that much to do with Harvey but from what I have seen it's basically the same modus operandi as Keelai. Woke opinions backed up by lots of elaborate bullshit and relentless and endless doubling down. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

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Keelai is not a fake progressive, but Harvey is.

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But they are both fakes.

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TheMan18.

Unless Keelai is TheMan18?

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Didn't he appear just as the Dr.AnitaBeEatin troll vanished? And appear close to the time the other obvious fake ItsGoodToBeRight appeared?

Someone has no life, and doesn't even have the excuse of lockdown.

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"Dr.AnitaBeEatin"

Been awhile...


Signed, million man.

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TheMan18 is definitely HarveyManFredSin who is definitely rcnyc24.

The tells are there. They have a distinct writing pattern that stands out like a sore thumb. I forget if ItsGoodToBeRight posted in the same manner.

I wonder how many accounts the dude has. It's wild how much they post.

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I disagree that they're all the same person, but don't wish to go into detail there. That would be the most pointless argument ever!

I'm always the same person myself. You can find loads of my old posts from the IMDB days here, and you can see I've always been the same bitch.

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They are the same. No need to go into detail, but I say this with great certainty. I'd bet on it. They all have the same peculiar posting style not to mention HarveyManFredSin posts the same long rambling musings about philosophical bullshit that TheMan18 is best known for.

rcnyc24 is obsessed with HarveyManFredSin, he keeps posting about him being a bot, whilst he himself showcases the same peculiar habits with regards to punctuation. He's arguing with himself and trying to stir up drama for attention purposes. rcnyc24 and HarveyManFredSin joined around the same time too.

He's a very strange character.

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We're all very strange characters here, hon.

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No way they are the same people. They all act completely different. The better question is, who's sock are you?

Signed, million man.

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All I'll say is, I don't know how people find the time and energy to have multiple sock accounts, like the energy you must have to maintain them all could be way better spent.

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It's due to having an extremely sad, miserable existence.

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I wish misery gave me that kinda energy.

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It's not about having "energy." A lot of these people are paid or incentivized. It's become more obvious when some of them start talking about topics I either know about or have some familiarity or expertise in.

Also, from what I remember reading at the IMDB, sometimes they're "teams" of people managing a handful of socks.

For example, I remember when white supremacists were more active on YouTube trying to recruit people. They used to switch in and out of sock accounts pretending to have discussions with each other. Sometimes they would accidentally give away that they were sock accounts by not remembering which account they were logging in and out of.

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We gotta pick our battles and concerns and if this guy is one of yours, you just go on right ahead with that.
I guess I would have to have negative or wonky interactions with him before I can agree with you.
So far from checking out a couple of his posts, he seems OK to me.

As long as he isn't hurting anyone I don't see the problem here.

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We are all free to interact with posters as we wish, but my question is, why do you think he's not "hurting" anyone?

The whole point of the internet is for people of like mind--and culture and nationality--to connect with each other on topics. Why isn't it harmful if, say, French people want to express admiration for Maurice Chevalier or Jacques Cousteau, and I--as an American who can speak fluent French--start making up shit about how he was really a racist or something, while trying to pass for French. And, on top of being French, I call myself a proud leftist.

It's harmful because I'm trying to be disruptive in French people trying to touch base with each other about a national figure they admire. On top of that, I'm trying to confuse them into thinking that members of their own are now turning on popular French icons out of "Leftism," when I'm just a shit disturber from the United States.

There are tens of THOUSANDS of these types all over social media doing this very thing. The OP is one of them.

I'm basing this on a real world example. The French on

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They remind me of the guy who was active when I joined up who would post lots of controversial type threads but hardly ever share their own opinion on it.

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That sounds like what they used to call a "drive by troll:"

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=drive-by%20troll

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Yeah it's a common theme here in particular but I have come across it elsewhere too.

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