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Country music: a dead genre?

posted 2 years ago by Leodicaprio (6426)
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Obviously not all country music is the exact same but the genre as a whole seems to be suffering from some key issues

-the country sound: I don't know of another genre where all the singers adopt a southern twang "accent" when singing. even people from the north and Canadians. this leads to a stagnation. compare this to the range of sounds in rock. of course country singers don't all sound the exact same, but this unspoken rule of the forced accent leads to more uniformity in sound

-the dead symbolism and iconography of country. while other genres certainly reuse some , they seem far more innovative and come up with fresh ones. rap clearly has its go to's, but at least the creativity ( besides modern mumble rappers) that some good rappers have is impressive using metaphor, braggadocio, repetition, formulaic expressions, double entendre, mimicry, rhyme, and allusions. Rock doesnt seem to use such stringent ones and can be a ll over the place. certain sub genres like pop punk do all seem to be about a bad relationship gone wrong but still having your friends around. but this is a subgenera of a subgenere. so it suffering from what all of country does is not good

Meanwhile in country rye, whiskey, tailgate, church, truck. id be hard pressed to find a song without these. with almost every song being about love or going to the big city to party. its almost as if the country music has completely stagnated.

-not even trying to rhyme.... I mean when you just reuse the same iconography. you adopt a fake accent and sound the same. and now you make music that doesnt rhyme, what are you even doing? pop, rock and rap all sound significantly different from themselves only 10 years ago. good or bad at least its changing. is modern country music that noticeably distinguishable from itself 10 years ago?

[–] R_Kane (15828) 2 years ago

Think again.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-asks-what-is-americas-favorite-music-genre/

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

I should said artistically dead. but that was pretty clear from my criticisms. some of the most garbage music/bands are the worst

[–] R_Kane (15828) 2 years ago

You should HAVE said, but you did not, because you are clumsy. The only things clear in your OP
are what you had in your mind when you wrote it.

Your audience is not psychic. And you do not proofread.

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

my entire argument makes this point clear. no mind reading nessecary. which you clearly didnt read

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 2 years ago

Women prefer Country and Pop? Do you know any male pop artists trying to crossover in that genre by doing crossover duets with Female country singers and taking home the CMT video of the year award there do you Leo?

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

yes a non country song duet in his typical soul style with a piano now makes him "a country artist"

fuck you are dumb. you've lost

[–] ShogunofYonkers (77378) 2 years ago

The ‘New Country’ sound has millions of fans, it’s not going anywhere but up. A lot of my close friends and family love New Country.

Personally I think it sounds like shit and lacks heart and soul. It’s fake.

Old Country is damn good though…
Dolly, Willie, Kenny, Patsy etc.

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

agreed

[–] MaximRecoil (4598) 2 years ago

I don't know, but modern country music sucks. This video of six modern country songs combined together demonstrates how similar many of them sound to each other:

https://youtu.be/FY8SwIvxj8o

I love old country though. It started to get bad in the '80s and has only continued to get worse since then. There are a few country singers who came along in the '80s that I like, but I don't put them on the same level as the ones from the '40s (starting with Hank Williams' era) through the '70s.

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

yes I didnt even get into the almost identical instrumentals....

agreed old country was good

[–] actionkamen (23176) 2 years ago

Taylor Swift is basically country and she's totally not dead.

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

Taylor swift doesnt sing country anymore...

[–] Kowalski (75523) 2 years ago

LMAO...STOP SAYING THAT.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 2 years ago

Stop saying what? Cold hard fact?

Prove me wrong!

[–] Kowalski (75523) 2 years ago

SO...YOU'RE THAT GUY NOW?...NO...I DO NOT WANT TO NOR WILL I ATTEMPT TO PROVE YOU WRONG...AS IT IS NOT REQUIRED...EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO READS YOUR COMMENT WILL SAY TO THEMSELVES..."HEY,SWIFT ISN'T COUNTRY...THAT GUY IS WRONG"

[–] Boromir (10005) 2 years ago

She was country in her early days.

[–] Kowalski (75523) 2 years ago

MICHAEL BOLTON WAS HARD ROCK IN HIS EARLY DAYS.

[–] Boromir (10005) 2 years ago

Kurt Cobain was a janitor in his early days.

[–] Kowalski (75523) 2 years ago

JOHN LENNON WAS A THIRD GRADER IN HIS EARLY DAYS.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 2 years ago

Concentration! Stay on topic or risk being ignored.

[–] chilone (17864) 2 years ago

Keith Richards was a pharaoh in his early days.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

Well I don’t profess to be a barometer for what is currently cool in any way, but I do listen to a lot of new music and two of my favourite albums released this year are Humble Quest by Maren Morris and Bronco by Orville Peck. Both are brilliant records with absolutely no filler, and to me are examples of everything that is good about modern country.

Personally I think there will always be an audience for country music.

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

do they meet exactly what I said? as maximum recoil added above

"This video of six modern country songs combined together demonstrates how similar many of them sound to each other:

https://youtu.be/FY8SwIvxj8o";

are the instrumentals basically identical? from "circles around this town". it seems Maren Moris is just as generic and does everything say. at least she was actually born in Texas and not faking her accent

in her first some she only hits 4 of the country buzzwords, talking about a truck, town, driving and mentions a church. she does everything say is wrong with country to a T.

-same vocals
-same indistinguishable instrumentals from every other singer
-same overused imagery.

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I just said I liked the record. Jesus.

It’s not as generic as you are insisting, which you may appreciate if you weren’t so arrogantly insistent on trashing it based on one song:

https://youtu.be/ZRM4oq0auaU

https://youtu.be/4lAoq5NMkKc

https://youtu.be/Jk5kiAURAeU

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

I dont have time to listen to 130 minutes of two albums. I took he first song. it met everything I said in my OP

despite your victimhood, I dont have an insistence not washing your album. the world isnt out to get you

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I don’t think the world is out to get me nor did I suggest it was. I still think you’re arrogant though but honestly yours is just an opinion, nor more valid or worthy than anyone else 🙂

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

my opinion on country is pretty wide held. the fans may be happy to hear the same sounding, regurgitated iconography over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. but doesn't make it good

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

To you. There are plenty of people who would disagree with your opinion.

In any case if you take a moment to read my original reply you would see I didn’t even counter your criticisms of new country, I simply offered an opinion that two of my favourite albums this year are from country artists. You seem intent on challenging my taste but unfortunately your antagonistic attitude won’t change what I like. You seem the type who always has to be right, fair enough if that’s your flex but I maintain that Bronco and Humble Quest are fantastic albums and that not all new country should be written off without giving it a chance.

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

GREAT HENCE why I offered arguments. while you have fuck all of "I knew women who sued to listen o rap now they listen to country"

great so fucking leave now. you embarrassed yourself enough man.

and you are the type who has ADHD and cant focus for one minute. even now you are going on an unrelated rant. get meds for your ADHD

AGAIN I listened to the first song. it was exactly what I criticized. I gave it a chance. it failed. you can leave now. you keep confusing actually evidence, for "I feel, I believe, I met these girls who used to listen to rap"

anecdotal feeling based nonsense

[–] [deleted] 2 years ago

I didn’t say anything about rap music. You have me confused with another person.

[–] chilone (17864) 2 years ago

The above is why no one likes you here.

[–] TandyMan (11096) 2 years ago

Mainstream country has become pop music, but there's still a huge thriving "underground scene" of real country music. It's not really underground at all. It just doesn't get played on the radio. If you live in the South, country music is everywhere.

[–] Gubbio (3893) 2 years ago

Never cared for country music. To me, much of it sounds the same, and most of the vocalists sound constipated.

It just seems very low class and unsophisticated. Just my opinion.

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

I can see the appeal to a blue collar person living in the country. but id get sick of hearing "driving in my truck" for the 5th time in a row on 5/6 songs

[–] gtsstl (4) 2 years ago

Very interesting read. Glad to find this discussion. OP, what are your thoughts on the rock genre?

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

Rocks so old (not a bad thing) that it is so developed its full of subgenres now. even sub-genres have sub-genres. but over all it seems far far far far more dynamic, creative and varied. I mean just look at any of the literal thousands and thousands with totally different sounds and styles. some jaded old guy may say rocks dead cause "no ones as good as zeppelin and now they are all just fake rock and are pop stars"

thats blatantly untrue there re clearly still try talented legit rock musicians.

overall for good or bad, rock, pop, hip hop and rap is thriving and changing. county is stagnant

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 2 years ago

What are you even talking about? Slayer God Hates us All was the only good album that came out in a year that starts with 20. What are you stupid?

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

if you are born in the 70s and are jaded and "only like old music" im sure id agree

[–] gtsstl (4) 2 years ago

I usually listen to 60s, 70s rock. The 80s, 90s and so on have not been as rich for rock. What are you listening to now? Yes, I do hear Greta Van Fleet. I also like Black Pumas and some Gary Clarke. Most of my music is in the past.

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

I have a personal bias against GVF (yes I know even zeppelin praised them) because they said they basically never listened to zeppelin and it wasn't a big influence. and finally after getting called out they admitted they were and basically told everyone to shut talking about it.. the whole event played out slimey on their part in what shoulda been a non issue. I can respect their skill however.

for me alittle of the killers, billy talent, weezer and producer of having matured in the 2000s clearly.. im more a song guy than a band guy.

may not be your cup of tea and most isnt for me but if you branch into punk, pop punk, screemo ect the 90s-2010s have been plenty rich for rock

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 2 years ago

I mean Led Zeppelin sucks so who cares if some other band that sucks think they suck?

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 2 years ago

Why is it you youngsters latch on to old boomer bands like Zeppelin then come at gen x and early millienials as boomers?

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

LOL the bitch is begging for attention. after running away when I publicly destroyed him hahahah. ive never seen such a pathetic bitch on MC.

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 2 years ago

It's called going to bed. You should try it sometime

[–] Leodicaprio (6426) 2 years ago

you live on here... take your own advice. now beg more you fucking bitch

[–] Bossdog677 (1553) 2 years ago

See it's like i work the graveyard shift and when I get home I go to sleep. You don't sleep because you are a bot