Women used to show them off. Cleavage was a thing. Guys used to comment on them.
Now they're a non entity. Pop culture and society talks about "booty".
What do you attribute the decline in worth to?
I wonder if Pamela Anderson's being so good that it made all others pale in comparison. She killed it.
As a classic movie buff and a natural large boobs fan I regretted Hollywood chose waif A cup actresses for most of the 30's films. The 50's are my favorite decade with Marilyn, Janet Leigh, Sophia, Jane Russell and the under appreciated Karen Steele bursting out all over.
shareThey are still a big deal today if you ask me as men are attracted to a shapely female form.
shareThey are still a huge deal today, but men aren’t allowed to talk about them like they used to because they will be considered sexist pigs in the current climate of society. But trust me, all of us still notice them and think about them, and if we have the right audience, we still talk about them. Haha.
We’re basically at the point where opening a door for a woman is sexist, so talking too much about their breasts will get you the electric chair.
This ^^
We're in a neo-puritan period.
“opening a door for a woman is sexist”
In the south it’s still quite customary.
I'm waiting for the cancel culture revolt from women and feel like we are very close to it happening. Fringe radical feminists don't speak for the average woman.
sharei don't think there's anything like casual nudity these days the way there was in the 70s & 80s. & i feel like we don't see cameras obviously humping women's bodies the way we did in that era.
it's a weird divergence, really, in the way that porn is basically available at all time to everyone who'd want it, but at the same time, popular film has become kinda chaste. perhaps those things are related, that everyone has all the boobs they could ever want streamed into their phones & laptops, so it might feel quaint or unnecessary to load your movie with sex & nudity.
i think there's a bit more to it than that, probably. i do think a sort of anti-sex sensibility has worked its way into some areas of pop culture, perhaps. i dunno...i'm certainly no authority on such matters. but it does feel to me more and more like there's a vaguely pearl-clutching distaste in the culture for nudity & sex in film now. i don't know that, but it feels that way to me.
American mainstream movies were always more anti-sex and pro-violence, always has been like that. Compared to French movies, for example, where violence is minimal and nudity is almost always in every movie.
sharei expect that's true, but my point was a comparison of american films from 30-40 years ago to now.
i watched dirty harry, for eg, this past friday. that was a mid-budget film with a star (lots of other big stars were considered for that part). it has several moments of nudity, and you wouldn't see that in a mid-budget thriller or action film today.
One area where culture isn't chaste is pop/rap which is quite crude these days.
absolutely. that's why i used that slightly weaselly phrasing & said 'some areas of pop culture.'
it's interesting to speculate why some areas would be more restrained, others would go deeply in another direction. it probably gets into some political territory, i guess. i suspect that at least some of it is because film, even cheap film, is very pricey to produce, and even indie film makers tend to come out of the upper class, & are going to be influenced by feminist sensibilities. as opposed to lots of music, which can still be produced cheaply, more cheaply than ever, and is widely available as an outlet to lower class, poor kids.
& i'm not reflexively against feminist thought influencing culture. i'm not kukuxo or whatever that guy's name is. i'm all in on people questioning pre-existing norms and asking if we should really be doing things like that.