I'm not going to waste any more time on this than I have to.
> I never [said that discussing Hitler violates the quoted rule.]
Technically you're correct. You did not say that discussing Hitler, in itself, incites hatred, promotes discrimination, et cetera.
What you did do was quote a news article about MovieChat which summarized the rule as a prohibition against "hate speech." That abbreviated description, appropriate enough for journalistic purposes, distorted the meaning of the actual rule by making it appear broader than it is. You then asserted, in the form of a rhetorical question, that discussions of Hitler are frequent and that this constitues hate speech, and in doing so you indirectly asserted that those discussions are a violation of the terms of service.
From your original post in this thread:
Users are banned from trolling, flaming, spamming, unsolicited advertising, hacking and impersonation, and are prohibited from sharing porn, threats, hate speech, malware and excessive profanity. [quoted from https://www.wired.co.uk/article/moderators-movie-chat-imdb]
What is this constant discussion about Hitler and Eva Braun but Spamming and Hate Speech???
By the way, since you're indulging in Clintonesque parsing of words then sententiously flinging around accusations of rank dishonesty, I'll point out something. At the time you posted that, there were at most only three posts that had ever been made on the Eva Braun page. (In truth only one, but that cannot be demonstrated with 100% certainty from the time stamps.)
Eva Braun was not constantly discussed and was not constantly appearing on the Trending panel. A little dishonesty there on your part?
> Would you like someone to paste a Hitler sticker on your car
My car is my property, I'm the only person who uses it, and it is known in my community to belong to me. MovieChat does not belong to you, you are only one of many users, and nobody knows your true identity. Your analogy is beyond merely asinine, it is nonsensical.
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BullSchmidt (3189)
5 years ago
> I wonder why the defenders of Hitler are so scared and defensive?
I'm not going to review this entire thread in detail or the posts on Hitler's page. People are defending the right to discuss Hitler, but I'm pretty sure that nobody is defending Hitler himself. You say that they are. I challenge you to give specific examples to support that assertion.
> If you consider MovieChat removed all the political discussions from the front page - that is more censorship that I ever called for and certainly never demanded.
That was not censorship. Nothing MovieChat does or could do would be censorship. There is no force of law empowering their regulations, no criminal penalties they can impose on those who break them. MovieChat is a private entity, not a public utility, and the management is entitled to set rules as they see fit, including prohibiting the expression of certain ideas.
But they did not do that. They made a section for politics, which anyone is free to read and contribute to, and a rule that political discussion is confined there. And with good reason. The difference is only one of degree between two troops of chimpanzees screeching at each other and the typical political "discussion" on the Internet, in which groups of shaved apes screech "you're an idiot" at each other without any substantive expressions of rational thought.
Now I'll wrap up by quoting from the same community standards page I quoted earlier.
"No trolling, flaming, spamming or unsolicited advertising"
"Our team of moderators have several tools at their disposal to enforce the Standards, including [...] Temporarily or permanently suspending your ability to post"
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BullSchmidt (3189)
5 years ago
Mischaracterizing the statements of others is a time honored tactic of trolls, as is distorting facts. You have done these things.
You have repeatedly made character attacks against those with whom you disagree. That is flaming.
It is clear that the moderators have heard your complaints, considered them, and rejected them. You continue to make your complaints, ad nauseum. That is spamming.
Please do not protest to what I am about to say by complaining that I don't know you and have no way of knowing what goes on inside your head. People draw inferences about others' mental states from their actions every day, not only in courtrooms ("mens rea") but in all other aspects of life.
It seems manifestly obvious to me that your intent is not to discuss an issue which is of grave importance to you, but to harass and annoy. Furthermore, I believe that most reasonably minded people would agree with me.
You have violated the terms of service of this site. You have done so on multiple occasions. You did so knowingly -- you cannot claim ignorance of those rules, since you yourself quoted them in your original post.
I ask the moderators of MovieChat to enforce this site's rules by suspending your ability to post for thirty days. And I call upon any other user who agrees with me to join with me in that request.
In any case, I am done with you, sir.
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