Keep one politics board for polite (it's in the word for God's sake) discussion, and another one titled "dirty politics" where anything goes.
Just stop posts from "dirty politics" going in the Latest Posts feed.
I think that's a good idea.
I come here to get away from the world and talk about movies, not to be reminded how many four-letter words there are in the world.
Agreed.
shareDefine polite.
Moviechat is a human moderated forum. Thus, it comes with all the features and drawbacks of having human beings moderating a forum.
They can be biased. They can be drunk or simply not in a tip top condition. They can be simply unfair or just had enough. They can have had some beef with certain users previously, etc. Moderators can have different and/or inconsistent threshold for whatever should be called "polite" or "impolite."
Having some select guys act like judges, juries and executioners may not be a recipe for ultimate fairness and transparency that's needed for a good politics discussions.
But, they also can be human with human-like qualities. Which is good for a forum for discussing... movies. At least that was what Jim might think.
MOVIE chat. You come here to talk about movies. Politics is secondary here, if that.
Nice post.
shareOf course you have to define polite for such a policy to work. I do not see why it would fall upon me to define polite, that should be a group process, I would imagine.
We've already got moderators making tricky decisions. Writing a good policy and implementing would, to my mind, be a bit of work at the front end, but make banning decisions much easier in the long run.
And I am certain there are some users who are not here to discuss movies but just to incite bad feelings. (Please don't ask me to define bad feelings. If you don't know what that means, you are not taking this conversation seriously, in my opinion.) If those users want to continue using the board, you could avoid banning them by allowing them to play in the sandbox of 'dirty politics'. And if they learn the rules of politeness, they could even join the 'politics' board.
There are of course, other solutions.
Allow users uninterested in politics to check a box saying they don't want to see the politics board on the latest posts feed.
That would not be ideal for someone like me, who is interested in actual politics, which is a very interesting subject that is not limited to false reports, mud-slinging, and name-calling, i.e. "dirty politics". Oh, you know what, I guess I can define "polite". But that doesn't mean I have the final word on it.
I know what polite is. Everyone knows. The mods know. What I wanted to say was that they might have different and/or inconsistent threshold for what should be considered polite or otherwise. It's not black and white. The "define polite" line was just rhetorical. I apologize for that.
It would be immensely difficult to make a comprehensive set of rules covering all the subtleties and nuances of heated politics discussions. Even heated movie discussions are already hard enough to moderate fairly.
In a heated movie discussion even if the mods couldn't moderate in a totally fairly fashion, people would just maybe throw some mild dissatisfaction and that's it. It's just a movie.
Politics is a different animal altogether. There's no such thing as it's just politics. You know what I'm saying? With movies we can just call it it's just a movie. Calm down. End. Not in politics.
You can imagine what would happen if a mod decided to call a thread "impolite" and deleted it. One can never be deemed "fair" in a heated politics discussion that needs moderation. Never.
Also, you mentioned false reports. So when a random guy throws a false report (according to you) in a thread, then what exactly the mods are gonna do? Fact check the report and decide whether it's false or not? How can they possibly do this? They are moderators in a movie forum, not some super knowledgeable persons in all things political.
I think discussing politics in a specialized politics forum is the best solution you can possibly have. If there's any such forum.
The polite side would be empty.
share"I come here to get away from the world and talk about movies,"
If you want to talk about only movies, then avoid altogether the politics discussion which will drag you back to reality.
Politics will always be "dirty." Both sides are compassionate (to say the least) about their opinions.
I didn't start seeing you there till recent days. You really need thick skin to go there. It's not for everyone. Maybe it's not for you and that's fine.
But it's quite hypocritical of you to call out one particular poster on that board. Had you picked one from each side to use as an example, your point may have had more value. Of course you picked someone on the right. 🙄 Someone who explains things very eloquently (much of the time with proof) than anyone on that board. He's a strong, solid poster with legitimate responses, (which is why he's most hated by the left posters).
So it was hard for me to take you seriously. Have you looked at some of the disgusting comments coming from the left on there? Not to mention they regularly name call/attack the right. Not that the other side doesn't do it but there's a stark contrast between the two sides who engage in it.
https://moviechat.org/bd0000082/Politics/5ed3fd0e0928ee467d17b4fa/BLM-is-a-fine-movement
There already is a Dirty Politics board here. The flame wars burned it to the ground.
Anything good in it was looted and posted elsewhere.
Perhaps there could be a forum about Trump and US politics, and another one about anything political which is NOT Trump or Biden or Republicans vs American Left.
Right now the politics forum is Trump, and then Trump, and Trump, and a bit of Trump, and some Trump, a then more Trump, and wait for it... yeap, Trump.
We used to post on the Trump board but too many were crying about it because they had to see his face in trending. 🙄
shareThe Trump board is for Trump related to his roles in movies or TV, not his role as POTUS.
shareBINGO
shareSure but people had been posting there throughout his presidency. If that was a problem they should have nipped it in the bud right away. Not wait 2 or 3 years!
Many were claiming they were sick of seeing his face so they went crying to mommy about it and got their way.
THE RIGHT WAY...SOME PEOPLE GO TO FAR...THAT SHIT WAS BECOMING A REAL ISSUE...NOT EVERYONE WANTS THE POLITICS HERE ON MOVIECHAT...THE EFFORTS TO KEEP IT SEPERATE ARE FAIR.
shareHe is the President, why would you be surprised to see him mentioned so much?
shareMOVIECHAT...UNLESS HE IS ACCEPTING ROLES...HE SHOULDNT BE
shareWhen will you shut up? How many times do I have to tell you I have no respect for your opinion and don't want to hear anything you have to say. You've shown the type of person you are, and I think you're pathetic and annoying. I never respond to the topic of your replies, I just tell you to piss off in one way or another. Yeah, I get it, it's a public forum and you can post what you want, yada,yada,yada... but why engage with someone who thinks you're a complete tool and won't even acknowledge what you said? I know I wouldn't waste my time with it, but maybe my time is worth something to me. It's sad really.
shareWHY SO ANGRY?🙄
shareFYI, there is an ignore button at the bottom of each post.
shareI don't ignore people, that's for pussies. I'm honest and fair from my point of view, and I really don't care about his. He's heard it before, so he's little more than a troll to continue reply to someone who thinks his opinion is worthless, or else why bother?
shareWhy is an ignore button for pussies?
shareBecause you can't do that in real life. Being an adult includes the unfortunate reality that we will interact with people we don't like. It's a fact people are forgetting because they create the sanitized safe places online, where they only interact with like minded people. Those people don't tend to do well in real life society.
shareOkay. Fair enough.
share"Because you can't do that in real life."
Oh you certainly can. You can also walk away, avoid people altogether, refuse to engage, etc.
People used to do it all the time before the internet, I remember. They also tended to interact with like-minded people. This was real life society!
I think the real issue here is SOME people think they deserve to be heard constantly, because everyone on Earth will obviously benefit from this one person's ideas, whether they want to or not LOL
^^^This!^^^
shareThere are people you work with, people in your family, neighbors, etc...that it isn't realistic or easy to just completely avoid despite not liking them. You are over simplifying a more complex issue. I guarantee you have to engage with someone in the real world you don't care for all that much.
shareIt is possible to achieve, but can be quite a challenge. It does lead to a more serene life though.
share"I guarantee you have to engage with someone in the real world you don't care for all that much."
Cant think of any
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shareKowalski is very fun and chill
He's also a top notch movie watcher and a caring dad
In these VERY strange times we should be making amusement and silliness, not feuds
NO disrespect intended, we're all a bit stir crazy but let's just have some laughs friend
He's been incredibly rude to me. Told me he'd beat my as in real life, talks a bunch of shit then runs to the mods when I push back. I've seen plenty of posts with other users that he was an asshole to. You're experience with him might be great, but not mine. People don't get points from me for being good parents, because you should be anyway. I'm a great dad, but I don't flaunt it in these boards like I'm special just for loving my kid. You like him, great, I don't based on the interactions I've had with him. Ive only asked he not reply to me, multiple times, and he won't respect that, so how great is he?
shareI'm surprised and sorry to hear this
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Funny you should mention it, I’ve been spending some time over in Thunderdome and just today decided I’m done.
I don’t like how people act there, especially myself. I find it hard to restrain myself when I encounter certain attitudes and end up acting just as feral. My honest apologies to those who I’ve had harsh words with. Not sorry for the opinions but I know when I’ve been a dick 🤷♂️
I won’t be heading back there.