Have you noticed most men are afraid to speak out against how absurd “feminism” has gotten? - General Discussion Discussion

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Maybe stop thinking in terms of “we” vs. “they” and it will all make some sense.

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[–] Kowalski (79077) 5 years ago

NAILED IT.

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[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

Screwed it more like...

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[–] AndyKing1967 (39846) 5 years ago

I see what you did there,

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[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

Just trying to poke a spoke into the Wheel of Woke...

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Nice bit of poetry there, Quasi ;)

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[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

Thank you verrah much...

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[–] samoanjoes (58580) 5 years ago

The weird thing is that when you look at studies of women who identify as feminists, the percentage is low. It's pretty much no higher than 30% in every country.

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[–] somesunnyday (2078) 5 years ago

Who collects this data and how?

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[–] samoanjoes (58580) 5 years ago

Depends where you look. Personally I don't care if a woman is a feminist or not but here are a few articles:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47006912

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/04/16/feminism-poll_n_3094917.html?ri18n=true

http://womenagainstfeminism.com/what-is-feminism/#more-1687

https://today.yougov.com/topics/lifestyle/articles-reports/2016/02/23/less-than-third-women-feminists

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[–] Thaisticks (3292) 5 years ago

First the blacks, then the gays, then the women--when will it ever be the time for us straight white guys!

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[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

Come on Thaisticks we straight white guys have had a pretty good run of it for the past few hundred years. But what I want to know is what makes the feminists, LGBTIHQA's, blacks, other minorities and the ' We-are-all-one Woke Brigade ' so certain that they could do a better job ? What qualifications do they have ? What training ? What work experience ? What aptitude ? A big fat zero's worth that's what. And yet they expect everything to be handed over to them simply because they think they are the Princes and Princesses who will magically make everything wonderful...

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[–] Thaisticks (3292) 5 years ago

Exactly! How many countries have they ever run! How many religions have they ever founded! What have they accomplished outside of the kitchen or music hall!

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Wow that's sure to get some attention!

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

The only time I ever hear feminism spoke of is on this site. I don’t know any feminists. The guys I know don’t seem to have the same problems with women that some of the men on here do. I have been accused of being a feminist a few times on MC simply because I’m a female. Do you actually feel the need to speak out against feminism with the girls you know, or are you just assuming all chicks are men-hating, power hungry feminazis? Just curious where you are getting your ideas of how women think. It makes me wonder if you know any females at all.

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[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

This is a link to a recent Australian public radio program. If you can stand the stupidity it's worth a listen to understand the level of insanity that is at work.

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/theminefield/what-moral-obligations-does-feminism-impose-on-men/11653446

The feminist speaker seriously wants men to shut up, clear their minds of everything that they currently believe in and let radical feminist theory tell them what to think about everything. One of the co-hosts of the program slavishly goes along with all of it while the other puts up resistance.

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

Ok, I listened to this. I honestly didn’t understand the point any of them were trying to make. The whole debate seemed irrelevant. I can’t imagine this woman having much sway on anyone. She had nothing to say. I know nothing about feminism or what the radical feminist movement stands for. To me the answer is simple. Treat everyone with respect. I don’t know why people feel they need to belong to a group to have a valid opinion. Or maybe they just can’t think for themselves so they need to be told what to think. I find it all to be horseshit.

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[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

Wow, the whole thing ? That was going above and beyond the call of duty and I apologize for the trauma. These people are representative of the university educated and supposedly highly intelligent elite movers and shakers and more and more they are having an influence on the way things are presented and done. They are a danger to Western Civilisation in that they want to tear it down and replace it with their own ivory tower fantasy.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Feminazis - I got a good chuckle from that ;)
I think moviebuff got stood up or a girl gave him a hard rejection or something. He's got another recent post where he rants about how tough single guys have it. That's not really been my experience but I dunno what happened to him.
People are the same everywhere - they have issues. Some worse than others. Ces't la vie.

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[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

I haven’t been stood up or rejected recently, I’ve just been in the game long enough to know how it works. Girls have extremely inflated opinions of themselves from growing up being told how special and beautiful they are and then having this reinforced by the hundreds of guys trying to fuck them. Your experience has been different because A. You are famous, extremely good looking, or loaded. B Your standards are as low as most other guys. 99.99% chance B.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I just follow my own advice, man. You should try it. Women pick up on a bad attitude as well as anyone else.

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

I have no idea why this guy has trouble with women. He’s a real charmer!

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

No doubt. If he talks to them the way he does in his posts I can't understand why the females aren't climbing over each other to be the first to bask in his obviously sweet personality.

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[–] Mrmojo4700 (21711) 5 years ago

Froggy, I was thinking something similar as well. The only place I hear of feminism is on the internet. In the world I live in and in my circles I revolve in on a daily basis there is no feminist ideas being propagated that I am aware of. Maybe people should get their ideas from their real life experiences instead off of tv and the net.

By the way, thanks for Having my back with that jerk on the other thread. He’s such a troll. :)

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

Of course, anytime my dude! That wanker must live a sad existence.
It’s an odd world we live in now with so many people making life choices based on the opinions of a bunch of random strangers on the internet. People won’t even watch movies without first finding out what everybody has to say about it. They choose vacations based on how good their selfie pics will look on that facebook. It’s insane to me how people will say, “Look, I’m right because these 5 other bozos share my opinion.” That’s no way to live as far as I’m concerned. I’m glad to know you also enjoy living in the real world. There’s some pretty amazing shit happening out there and I don’t want to miss any of it!

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I agree. My wife, sister-in-law and sister never talk about this stuff. They are too busy working and raising families.

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

👍

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[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

The guys I know don’t seem to have the same problems with women that some of the men on here do

Ahem, one detail:
problems with feminism != problems with women;

Your welcome :-)

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

What are you talking about crackpot?

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[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

The thread is about feminism, not about women. Modern feminism is a political/religious ideology. Feminists are to women what commies are to poor.

Of course, you're free to agree or disagree with feminist ideology, but labeling any critique towards feminism as a critique towards women is dishonest debate, to say it politely.

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

I meant exactly what I said and I don’t need you to correct me.

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[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

I wasn't correcting what you said. I was fully dismissing what you said for being a fallacy.

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

You responded to my post to let me know you were dismissing everything I said? Got it. Thanks bub, always a pleasure.

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[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

I responded to your post and explained that you were using a very usual SJW fallacy: if you don't agree with modern feminism, then you must hate women, or have problems with women or something like that.

That's like saying that if you don't agree with communism, then you hate poor people. Or saying that if you don't like Hitler, then you hate Germans. Those are similar fallacies.

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

You responded to my post by explaining to me how I think? The reason I used the word women instead of feminism is because based on many of the op’s previous posts, he does seem to have a problem with women, not just feminists. Like I told you, I meant exactly what I said.

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[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

I didn't explained to you how you think. Indeed, I'm not sure you do such a thing.

I explained how your argument is a fallacy. Now you try to justify your argument because of the op. Well, this is another fallacy called 'ad hominem'.

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

Well that’s just silly. I have no reason to justify anything. I don’t care about feminism either way so I never had an argument, just a question for the op.

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[–] Ladronmc (176) 5 years ago

Yet you're melting down and resorting to fallacies because you cant answer anything that he has said.

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

“He” didn’t ask me any questions. Not one. You’re getting sloppy kuku.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Well, f&t, in this case the name speaks volumes.

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[–] froggyandtoadie (835) 5 years ago

Ha! f&t I like that. No one has called me that before😊

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Actually I was just being lazy!lol

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[–] BillHicksFan (10712) 5 years ago

self-respect is more important than pussy

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[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

In theory...

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[–] BillHicksFan (10712) 5 years ago

in practice, too... an orgasm lasts for 2 seconds, while you have to live with your conscience forever.

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[–] Quasimodo (16388) 5 years ago

In theory...

PS: My conscience is just fine. How's yours...?

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

most of the fun is getting there.

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[–] actionkamen (23176) 5 years ago

Orgasm is the most important thing in life. It's ingrained in the DNA.

However, orgasm doesn't always need a pussy.

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[–] BillHicksFan (10712) 5 years ago

There's a good Stanhope bit about "it" being like a zit that needs to be popped. And then back to whatever you were doing 2 mins later.

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[–] actionkamen (23176) 5 years ago

What's a Stanhope?

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[–] BillHicksFan (10712) 5 years ago

Doug Stanhope is a comedian.

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[–] actionkamen (23176) 5 years ago

I see.

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[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

Not sure I follow. Women don’t want sex badly enough to outweigh the social costs of being thought of as a whore? Seems a bit antiquated and seriously conflicts with women’s sexual liberation that is a cornerstone of feminism.

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[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

It's not antiquated. It's biological. Being promiscuous is gonna have always a social cost for women, since it increases the probability that the child is not from his partner.

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[–] Joogle83 (4546) 5 years ago

How come so-called Feminists still take Nude roles and pose in scant clothing

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[–] JunoBeach (17) 5 years ago

Because they choose to? Their body, their choice.

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[–] Joogle83 (4546) 5 years ago

makes them hypocrites

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[–] JunoBeach (17) 5 years ago

I'd ask you to explain but I don't care that much

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[–] MovieBuff224 (5053) 5 years ago

I think it’s obvious, they’re bitching about being treated like sex objects then they act like sex objects. It’s retarded.

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[–] JunoBeach (17) 5 years ago

Your answer is too general. Who are 'they'? It's like you think feminists have a hive mind and all think exactly the same way. Who specifically do you mean? Can you give me an example?

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[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

Check any article about 'objectifying women'. This is the first one I got
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/how-not-to-objectify-women-a-handy-guide_n_55cb705ee4b0923c12bed884

The article is titled 'How Not To Objectify Women, A Handy Guide'. The's a picture of the writer. You can notice how she wears strongly red lipstick. Red lipstick makes women more attractive because it simulates sexual arousal, and men are more attracted to sexually aroused women. In a nutshell: it's a socially widely accepted way to increase female sexual value by faking sexual arousal. But hey, don't objectify her!

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[–] JunoBeach (17) 5 years ago

So you think it's ok to objectify her because of the shade of lipstick she wears?

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[–] kuku (3510) 5 years ago

Nope. I think that it's Ok to objectify her, me, you or anybody else in any case. What I meant is that wearing lipstick to simulate sexual arousal while complaining about being objectified in a sexual way is hypocritical.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

And why is being naked such a popular form of protest for feminists?

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[–] Ladronmc (176) 5 years ago

They're fine being objectified. Hypocrisy is an amazing thing.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

No, I haven't noticed.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Many more women in the workforce today which is great if you are a single guy.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Gotta love it!

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[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2250) 5 years ago

It all started when we gave them the right to vote

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

barefoot and pregnant was the best. 👍 👍

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

C'mon you don't mean that. It's hard to pick up on sarcasm in a text so feel free to expound on that. Having had the good fortune of associating with many strong women, I'm a big supporter of women's rights.

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[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2250) 5 years ago

I was joking and i know hownos was too

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Okay cool. I figured it was a joke but it's hard to tell sometimes... especially in this place.
Plus I can be a little dense according to a couple of my exes 😕

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I'm always joking when I say that. No need for them to be barefoot.

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

Most of the people in here have great senses(?) of humor. When they're not insulting each other lol. I just have to remember to not spend much time in the politics section. 90% of those are just looking for a fight. Yes I'm guilty but I'm learning 😛

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[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I was being sarcastic 😊

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