At least here in the US, I think its hypocritical and unfair that men can go to the beach without a shirt and women can't in most instances. We all have nipples, so what the hell is the big deal?
Last time I was in Mexico, there was a large number of Europeans at the resort and many of them were topless. No one cared, no one stared, no one gawked.
The problem is that female nipples are considered sexual playthings. But then again, male nipples aren't safe around me either!
shareHow is females nipples being sexual playthings a ''problem''?
sharePadeen asks what the "big deal" is with women not being able to go to the beach without a shirt. Well, that's what the "big deal" is.
shareYes, did you see my reply to Padeen? (but you said it was a "problem", so it's about you're phasing)
But if you read my reply , can you honestly tell that it's not true?
An obstacle isn't a "problem"? Female nipples being sexual playthings is the reason women aren't able to go to the beach without a shirt.
shareBuy what can we do then? Since they ARE sexual playthings, we can't have it both ways. Also, other women are not fond of semi-nudity either, but not because of being uptight. Isn't sexuality part of human nature? if we homogenize everything about human nature, whats left?
shareAmerica is too uptight thanks to the morality police (i.e., the religious whack-jobs who think they should decide what is always "right" for the rest of us) to ever allow our society to normalize something as salacious as a woman's bared breasts.
Hell, American television is still getting over the scandal of a SINGLE bare breast of Janet Jackson during the Super Bowl halftime show; just imagine if she'd shown both of them! The country would have morally imploded into a quivering mass of fundamentalist protoplasm.
sure, that's why you masturbate to them, because they are ''salacious'' .
But, let's scapegoat America.
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Because female breasts are an object of SEXUAL DESIRE, an erogenous zone. So, it is a big deal or we would not have topless bars, topless mags for horny men, topless actresses in soft porn, and etc. And all women would desire to go topless if it felt so non-sexual.
Men's chests are attractive only because all parts of the body could be deemed attractive, but it's not the same as female breasts.
We can't assume that nobody in Europe supposedly didn't care, or just had to go along with the flow due to the law, like having to accept (annoying) dogs in supermarkets because it's now the law.
Yeah, it's ''hypocritical'', but not in the way that mean in our new age self-entitled society (read: "I want what I want, and I want it right now");. if any concept is more than 20 years old, it must be obsolete and so oppressive.
..and the breasts stay in the blouse so others are not oppressed by being forced to watch breastfeeding.
There is a duality at play I agree. I would also say in Europe that there would be many non Europeans (ie Muslims) who would have a huge problem with it.
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Fully nude beaches. We also have nudist colonies , but that's irrelevant also unless everybody who enters the beach is informed that everybody will be naked. Otherwise, what is so special about full /partial nudity on the beach vs. in general public? (also, is there some unwritten notion that Europeans are more top-notch then Americans?)
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They are well known to be nude or clothing optional beaches. Top notch?
shareI don't have an issue with it and in Australia we even have fully nude beaches.
sharewhat about women not wanting to be gawked at and cat-called, etc.?
So, men on the beach are supposed to numb their human instincts and "pretend" they are not looking at the very same body parts that turn them on (masturbate to) otherwise? Really?
I guess it is about being mature? It is a double edged sword really isn't it? If you want to keep looking at the naked women don't make them feel uncomfortable?!
shareNo, it's not about being mature, since it has no correlation to men being exposed to sexual nude female- breasts and then expecting them to not look. In that case, then you would need to not make women feel uncomfortable by not looking at them topless 24/7, anywhere and everywhere they decided to expose themselves.
And why would a woman want all of these men looking at their breasts if they had any self-respect, because she's immature and feels too good to have to wear a swim-suit top?
There is looking and then there is gawking/staring?
You seem very uptight about this. Are you American?
Americans are not known for being uptight, unless you wish to believe they are. Is that it?
shareOh I have met many Americans and many of them are uptight. You are being very uptight about this topic.
shareAmerica is a very very large country, as you know. I'd say it depends on where the Americans whom you have met are from, their socioeconomic status---and all of that other bothersome demographic stuff. We Americans can be wild!
But, I assure you, whether an American agrees/ disagrees with topless females on the beach isn't exactly a measurement of uptight-ness in the grand scheme of things.
yes, I confess: I am ''uptight'' about women (or men) parading their sexual body parts in public.We have (and distribute) porno, streetwalkin whores, and strip bars for that..and full nudity galore !
I rest my case, you are uptight as you have confessed. Yes, nudity only in a sexual context. How dare people just be naked without reason!
share We wear clothes over our sexual body parts here, at least in public. Why, does that make you uptight? You fool.
How come you never answered my specific questions? Feel uptight, bud?
shareThis is legal in Ontario and I couldn't care less. I have seen boobs before.
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