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Why Are So Many Vegans Jerks?

posted 6 years ago by [deleted]
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Casey Affleck (the sex-offending actor), Alec Baldwin (the homophobic and abusive actor), Chris Williamson (the anti-Semitic MP), Tobey Maguire (another misogynist actor), Jenny McCarthy (an anti-vaccination idiot), Morrissey (an Islamophobic bigot), Russell Simmons (a serial sex offender), various assorted wooly-minded hippies like idiot Julian Assange defender Pamela Anderson, and so on.

If they can't respect other human-beings than why do they care so much about animals? Or is it just a vanity thing for them, to supposedly keep them looking younger? I'm sceptical as to whether it works - admittedly I have got great skin for my age, but I suspect that has more to do with the fact that I don't smoke, and only drink very little.

Either way, they're diluting veganism for the rest of us who are committed to being good people.

If you're not willing to abide by certain minimum behavioural and ethical standards you should not be allowed to call yourself a vegan. Instead, you can **** off and enjoy a McDonald's.

[–] strntz (12773) 6 years ago

If you're not willing to abide by certain minimum behavioural and ethical standards you should not be allowed to call yourself a vegan.

I honestly don't see any connection.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

What connection?

[–] strntz (12773) 6 years ago

Connection between behavior or ethics and veganism.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

If you believe in ethics, and treating animals right, shouldn't it stand to reason that you treat people right too?

[–] strntz (12773) 6 years ago

That's the whole point. I've never seen a correlation between vegans and particularly ethical thoughts or actions. I don't see the connection.

Lot's of animal activists (mostly vegan I'd venture) would prefer to see the humans suffer before animals.

Perhaps most vegans aren't "ethical" vegans but just believe humans are supposed to live on a plant based diet for health reasons.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

All this is true.

But I find it absurd that some people put animals before humans. It's counterintuitive and frankly bizarre.

I'm an ethical vegan, but if I was driving a car and had a binary choice of swerving out of the way for a dog or cat, or swerving out of the way for a human-being, I'd, sadly, drive into the dog or cat and thus spare the human.

Maybe that makes me a 'speciesist', but is that such a bad thing? Human beings are more complex animals than other species (although, just to be clear, I am not making a judgement in terms of human IQ here - as far as I'm concerned, all human-beings, albeit not all creatures, are equal).

Also, these people who are merely vegans for health reasons annoy me.

Firstly, a flexitarian diet is arguably the healthiest. Meat and fish possess some vital nutrients that are difficult for vegans and vegetarians to derive. As an ethical vegan I have chosen to put animal welfare before my health (although I do believe that my diet is still far superior to that of someone who eats a diet predominantly composed of meat and dairy, if not one that consists of the occasional meat and dairy), but if I were seeking the best diet from a purely health-conscious basis, a flexitarian one would be the most preferable,

Secondly, these people are touting their 'virtue' even though their decision to go vegan has absolutely nothing to do with animal welfare or environmentalism, and everything to do with extending their own life (which is their prerogative, but is hardly 'virtuous').