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Things You Hate in Modern Cinema

posted 6 years ago by [deleted]
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When US animated films are redubbed in other English-speaking territories, like the UK and US (with local 'celebrities'). For instance, new animated release Wonder Park redubs a pair of characters played by Kenan Thompson and Ken Jeong in the UK, with Joe Sugg and Caspar Lee respectively.

Now, I know who Thompson and Jeong are because I'm familiar with SNL and The Hangover films, but I have no frickin idea who Sugg and Lee are. I also find it bizarre that even as we keep toting diversity, we have a black man and a Korean man's voices being replaced by a pair of dorky-looking young white dudes. Why?!? Can't British audiences understand American and South Korean voices?

[–] ShogunofYonkers (77426) 6 years ago

I'm not a fan of fast cut, choppy editing during fight scenes and I can't see what is going on during night shots sometimes...so annoying

[–] twinA (4921) 6 years ago

Fights scenes...

Let's see close-ups of the belligerent's faces instead of the actual hand-to-hand combat going on! That's why people watch these kinds of movies.

(Asian action films are an exception to this trope)

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[–] ShogunofYonkers (77426) 6 years ago

Keen and correct as usual Amigo👍

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Ergh!! Fast cuts drive me mad. Watching "Taken 3" made me feel queasy.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Captions ⤵️
"London, England
Paris, France
New York City, USA
Berlin, Germany
Sydney, Australia.........."

[–] twinA (4921) 6 years ago

Too many locations in the story's narrative can interfere with the film's pacing.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

It's more the thing that the film makers take the audience as too stupid to know where a certain city is. It's fair enough with M Night Shyalaman to have "30 Miles outside of Philadelphia" etc but to have "Mexico City, Mexico" is too much.

[–] twinA (4921) 6 years ago

Next thing that will happen is a narrator will delver a sound bite that goes "Meanwhile, back at the ranch" as shown in early westerns. The more things change, the more things stay the same.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

😆 Yep I remember those, We'll see, I wouldn't be surprised 👍

[–] AndyKing1967 (38141) 6 years ago

Whoa, I’m still processing the fact that Mexico City is in Mexico.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

I thought it was in Paraguay beforehand 😉

[–] AndyKing1967 (38141) 6 years ago

Para what now?

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

The next best Guay after Uru 👌

[–] AndyKing1967 (38141) 6 years ago

There’s a Uruguay too? Next you’ll be trying to convince me that there’s a place called Chile, which is obviously just a spice, right?

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Indeed there is, It's no Guay though 😉

[–] samoanjoes (56750) 6 years ago

I think the reason for that is to stay consistent. Let's say a scene in a movie takes place in Lake Chattanooga, no one would know that it's in Tennessee unless they labelled it that way. But if later on they go to London and it only says London people would notice that in one scene it said "Lake Chattanooga, Tennessee" and a scene later on only said "London".

Funny enough, in the YouTube series "Cinema Sins", they gave credit to "Mission: Impossible - Fallout" for only putting "Belfast" on screen and not the country it was in. The narrator said he was happy "not needing to be told Belfast was in Ireland." But the funny thing is while he's giving credit to the movie for "not needing to be told that Belfast was in Ireland", he is actually wrong. Belfast is in Northern Ireland.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

I'll check out the cinema sins channel, Indeed Belfast is in "Norn Iron" 😉

[–] samoanjoes (56750) 6 years ago

It's less than a minute in when he says it.

[–] twinA (4921) 6 years ago

Films not taking their time to tell a story, not letting the actors and actresses show off their skills and talents, and the viewing audience is unable to connect to the film's characters. Less is more. "Taken" (2008) is a great example of saying so much in so little.

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[–] actionkamen (23176) 6 years ago

Ken Jeong is not a North Korean. He was born in Detroit.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

I originally meant 'South Korean', and so I've edited my post accordingly (not sure why I typed 'North' Korean), but I do see that you're right, and that he was born and bred in the US. So, both men are US citizens.

In any case, despite my error, for which I apologise, my overall argument still stands.

[–] Wint3rFir3 (7171) 6 years ago

Sick of this in both film and tv - when a person is speaking, but for some reason the camera isn't on them and is instead fixed on someone or something irrelevant to the scene or the speech.
Also hate gratuitous sexy shots. If a character is supposed to be a badass, we don't need rear shots of them climbing a staircase slowly so we know how good their butt looks.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Speaking of matching dialogue to the images on the screen, my biggest pet peeve in cinema and TV (although it's not just s recent issue), is when a character is filmed speaking from behind, and it's clear their head movements don't match the words being said. That always strikes me as a sign of poor filmmaking, particularly poor editing.

[–] Wint3rFir3 (7171) 6 years ago

Right? It's so silly. Why do we need to see the back of their head anyway? Who in editing didn't speak up?

[–] TexasJack (12516) 6 years ago

I suspect that happens most often in cases where lines were added/changed during the dialogue dubbing sessions after filming has ended.

[–] Wint3rFir3 (7171) 6 years ago

That makes sense.

[–] bohemianroxie (2478) 6 years ago

The tendency toward either nihilism or preachiness.
Sometimes I just want to be hopeful and be entertained.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 6 years ago

"Are you not entertained?"
--Maximus Decimus Meridius

[–] bohemianroxie (2478) 6 years ago

On occasion. But not as much as I'd like.

[–] BeenSavage (631) 6 years ago

Over usage of BAD CGI

[–] Destinata (3332) 6 years ago

Are they still doing that stupid teal tinge to everything? If they ever get over it completely, film critics will refer to all those movies as “cinema’s ‘teal period.’”

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

no, where in yellow and earth tones now.

[–] Destinata (3332) 6 years ago

Wouldn't it be great if they just filmed it in the natural colors without some stupid filter over the camera?

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

or filmed in b/w, I like b/w in contemporary movies.

[–] Destinata (3332) 6 years ago

I like black and white in the old movies, as well. In fact, I often prefer the old movies to movies of today. And the craze for colorizing old photographs is for the birds.