Would you still find them cute and especially be in awe of the gorgeous chick as a male, like the Faye Dunaway character, even if they robbed banks and killed people, like that, or would you think negatively of, well, both of them?
And yet all said and done, I still LOVE that movie.
Oh wait, wasn't it based on a true story?
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Nope, not joking.
shareSo were they likeable then?
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Films also tend to put a lot of emphasis on beautiful female characters appearing incredibly beautiful but in that film, even the man was cute, I might not be gay or bi sexual, although I have nothing against them at all, but even I admit to Clyde's charm and charisma.
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But don't you think there's a reason why it is often "instilled in many societies" like that, or do you think that, true as it is, it is often more an opinion than fact, right? Is it OK to accept it and move on or...? And who is RIGHT here?
And did Medusa by the way do anything wrong?
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To anyone who saw the film, what did you think of the scene where that man spits into Bonnie's face, even if she was naughty and a criminal, don't you think that wasn't exactly a nice thing to do?
Come to think of it, I liked LESS Juliette Lewis' character in "Natural Born Killers" (1994) but even I DIDN'T like one phrase that the cop who arrested her, played by Tom Sizemore, says, then again...
I kinda got the point that his character wasn't meant to be totally "likeable" either. Same with that journalist, who seemed to only care about fame and money in his profession, really.
"Films also tend to put a lot of emphasis on beautiful female characters appearing incredibly beautiful but in that film, even the man was cute, I might not be gay or bi sexual, although I have nothing against them at all, but even I admit to Clyde's charm and charisma."
If you look them up, you will find that the real Bonnie Parker truly was quite pretty.
Clyde? To me, he looked like a little pip squeak! Nothing like Warren Beatty.
They were thieves and murderers so no, they were not likeable at all
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shareTheir 'legend' certainly benifited from excellent casting
shareFaye Dunaway looked gorgeous as hell in the movie.
And as far them not being likeable?
Legend Serge Gainsbourg wrote and performed a song about them along with no less legendary female pop figure of French music Brigitte Bardot, and not only is it an amazing song, it shows that both figures had apparent admiration for them. Despite their deeds but admiration still.
Bardot was born the same year Bonnie & Clyde died, so there was time for them to be romanticised.
Db means the real B&C weren't all that attractive, and they weren't. Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty were both very attractive people.
I shared this anecdote here once before and I'll do so once again for your benefit:
My local newspaper used to have a feature where it would delve into its archives and resurrect stories from up to 100 years ago. One such article was about how Bonnie & Clyde had stopped here to refuel while on the run from the law. By the time the authorities had been notified of the gas station attendant's suspicions, the infamous couple had long since disappeared. His description of her as " a hard looking woman " stands out in my memory.
a good book on the couple that I read a few years ago
https://www.amazon.com/Go-Down-Together-Untold-Bonnie/dp/1416557075/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520468877&sr=8-1&keywords=go+down+together+the+true+untold+story+of+bonnie+and+clyde
"Oh wait, wasn't it based on a true story?"
Thank you for jumping in there before you made me want to smack you in the head!
I just KNOW that you couldn't be a total idiot!
I found the movie entertaining. The film certainly made them seem far more exciting and important than what they really were.
The real life couple? They were a product of their time. That is how I see them. They were both down on their luck country kids. Both came from poor backgrounds. They both had limited education. Like many criminals of the 30's depression era, they made a name for themselves. They lived hard and died too young.
Unlike the many people who worked and struggled through that period, and made an honest living where ever they could, I think it's a shame that they lived hard and died young
So basically MissMargoChanning, in your opinion, they were the real life equivalent of "sympathetic villains", as in, they had a rough background and whatnot and only did what they did to survive, despite committing robberies and murders and whatnot, but not for some kind of sadistic pleasure but because they needed it to survive?
But would you think the same if say one of them shot and/or killed in process someone close to you? I don't think I WOULD, heck, come to think of it, if in some war time someone killed my grandfather and whonot who was serving in WW2 or something BUT did it in self defense in a "kill or be killed" type of situation, I WOULD STILL be upset AND hold a grudge over that person for killing him and would even think he was in the wrong and whatnot, EVEN IF, let's say, the person responsible for the killing was OTHERWISE a "decent human being" who in time NOT related to war wouldn't even hurt a fly MUCH LESS KILL someone who IS close to me, to boot. (And by the way, my late, he died in 2009, granddad, my father's father, actually DID serve in WW2 and even more than that, he got shot and wounded at least 3 times on the battle front and at one point while eating soup, has survived a massive explosion which killed 70% of his comrades that were around him.)
You misunderstand. I certainly do not see them as "sympathetic villains". Many folks I have known, and relatives, my parents included, lived through the depression and not one of them survived by robbing and killing people. My folks were poor too. They managed and made do with what they had.
Your grandad sounds like he was a great guy. You are obviously proud of him, and rightly so.
I would be upset if anyone I loved was killed by another person. It has already happened to me and my family in our lives. My 9 year old step brother was hit by a car while we were out riding our bikes. That has affected me ever since. Over the years, even though I knew it was an accident, I was angry at the woman who hit him. Gradually, I started the healing process and began to realize how badly this must have changed her. I can't begin to imagine living with that. I forgave her.
Another brother died in Vietnam. Of Course, that was upsetting. It changed our family even more. do I hate the person who did that? Why bother? Who do you begin to hate in a situation like that? The person who actually shot him? The officer who gave the orders to his men that they must shoot or be shot? The politicians? Where does the hate end?
However, if some sniveling little petty crooks were out to rob someone I loved, and killed that person just for money or material goods or some sick thrill, I'd personally be happy to dish out the punishment.
I'm sorry for your loss, Margo. But how admirable you were able to forgive. Yeah, it's better for your own state of mind to get rid of the hate, but that's easier said than done!
shareThank you. You are sweet. I do think it's best to try to forgive if you can. If you don't, you end up being one miserable person.
It is hard to shed bitterness after such losses, My mother and my stepmother both dealt with it in their own ways, and while neither one of them were quite the same, they both manage to not let hate or bitterness consume them. I haven't had to go through what they went though in their lifetimes. I hope I never do. We are all suppose to outlive our parents... not the other way around. My heart goes out to all parents who have to endure that sort of pain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRYp6Xos79k
You may watch the real story by clicking on this link.
I would still think of them as criminal scum.
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> What if Bonnie and Clyde
Best post subject I've seen this week (anywhere on the web)
LOL - butter my ass and call me a biscuit
but, if pigs could fly would they shit bacon?