My cats caught a bird, they always do this, the wings are not injured but all the feathers in the back and tail have been taken out and there is a wound on its side, the skin has been pulled off but he is not bleeding. I've saved bird with the same injuries before and they always die. The last time I did what I read online, which was to put the fledgling in a makeshift nest and put it on a tree, I died and of course it was there dead the next day. This is an adult bird, right now I have it on a box in a towel to keep warm, I want to save it but don't know how I'm not finding much online and it's night here, there's no animal control in this shithole country so not an option.
You are nothing less than complete class:/
And if youre such a renowned animal lover that hates hunting and such why not keep your mean cats indoors!?!
You seem a fool, a troll and a complete bore.
Trifecta weirdo...
Well done
most smaller birds in Canada store food to survive the winter - so if they can't get back to the cache of food they will starve or be eaten by predators such as raccoons/feral cats/skunks/foxes
you can't find anything on line so you turn to this site for help in saving a bird? ... brilliant
give it up, every bird you touch dies anyway, and if you're so worried about birds just shoot those stupid cats.
Yeah, it's such an obvious attention getting gimmick. 🙄 Wouldn't a vet have been the most immediate natural solution to come to mind for someone who really cares ?
I'm not sure you can save this bird, but it's commendable to try.
Keep the bird warm. A pigeon care forum suggests a hot water bottled covered with a towel can work well for this.
The wound on its side isn't bleeding? Is it a puncture wound? The bird may need antibiotics to survive. If you have one near you, a wild bird rehabilitation center would be your best bet. If nothing like that is available near you, you still might be able to call for advice from the folks at Wild Bird Rehab. Try the phone number found on this page: http://wildbirdrehab.org/help-ifoundabird/
In the meantime, my sister (who is rather obsessed with bird care) tells me you should put the bird in a safe place with water and food. If you can figure out the type of bird it is, you can research its typical diet on Wikipedia. Her reply to me was: "i would say that it needs help for a couple days. get a box poke a bunch of breathing holes. put a bunch of paper towels in bottom to soak up any poop. small dish of water that won't easily tip over. some berries. you can also dissolve a little sugar in warm water for an energy boost. feel free to copy/paste my answer for him"
Best of luck to you with this.
(I realize above replies assume you're trolling, but I'm going to assume you're *not* because it's no harm not to try to help you, and it would be cruel to refuse help if there is an injured bird at stake.)
thank you, it's right now on a towel in a box in my closet, I was hoping to release it in the day tomorrow, yes it's a half inch wound, it's all blood red like bare skin, I assume the skin got ripped off but it is not like bleeding if that makes sense. The bird is a pale vented thrush, I'm searching for info right now.
You're welcome. I passed your reply to my sister and this is how she responded: "if the skin is broken, i would gently clean with hydrogen peroxide. if it is not bleeding then it is superficial and just needs time to heal. low stress and safe. food, water, shelter"
So if the skin is intact--as it sounds like it is--then keep the bird safe and calm by keeping your interactions with it minimal. Your bird like fruit and insects, but my sister's suggestion of warm water with a bit of sugar will still work if you don't have fruit available. I think keeping it in the closet with a towel is fine. If it can fly when you release it tomorrow, I would call that good.
well it is broken, the outer layer of skin is missing, so it's like open wound but not spewing blood. He has left the box and is now perched on the side of the box, I think that's a good sign, I put a cherry in the box, the only fruit I have available. Hopefully he can fly tomorrow although the back feathers are missing.
The concern with the skin is whether the wound includes entry points for bacteria. If the topmost layer was pulled away, it may look angry red but still not leave the bird vulnerable to infection. Would you describe the wound as dry? Or is it damp/wet? If it's damp/wet, I'd be concerned about bacteria being able to make their way in. If that's the case, the bird might develop an infection that would require antibiotics. You'd have to talk to the bird rehab folks about dosing for a pale vented thrush.
I don't think, however, that you should have to go as far as seeking antibiotics. I asked the nurse in our ER for advice about the bird before I left work. He said the bird could probably recover from the injuries you describe if it doesn't have internal injuries from the fight. The feathers should grow back. He also said it's hard, maybe impossible, to treat birds if they do have significant injuries. What you're doing really is about all you can do.
Cherries are great. And yes, I do think it's a good sign the bird was feeling well enough to perch on the box side. Birds can get quite lethargic when they're stunned/shocked. I think this bird has a reasonable chance.
I hope it survives, it is damp/wet but I don't see any puncture wound. I thought of using peroxide but didn't want to cause it pain =( I guess I should have, I'd rather not touch it so that it doesn't get scared.
I would not use H2O2 on the bird's wound at this point. And I don't know that I would have even if it had been directly after the fight. This would be my guideline: Only if there were puncture wounds or a wet/damp wound was visibly soiled with something infectious (like cat saliva or fecal matter) would I think it would be worth stressing the bird over to try to clean the wound.
Hopefully if any bacteria did sneak in, the bird's immune system will fight them off. When considering care of a wild bird, you really do have to factor in whether your intervention will stress the bird and cause more harm than good. As my sister likes to remind me: a bird can actually have a heart attack and die from stress alone.
You're doing a good thing. You're doing as much as you reasonably can. And this bird is showing good signs of recovery. I hope the bird flies off into sunshine-bright skies for you tomorrow.
Good news! In the morning the bird was already fluttering in my room and trying to escape me grabbing him, I grabbed him and went to my backyard to try and drop it on a neighbor's yard my cats can't get into and it actually flew out of my hand past their house and into the other street lol. My only successful rescue.
I’m happy to read about your “only successful rescue.” Good for you...but definitely good for the bird. When you let your cats outside, why not contain them by standing guard. I know, difficult to do with four so let only two at a time. Domesticated cats adapt very well to being indoors as long as they have a good clean litter box or boxes.
By watching your pets you are safeguarding them as well. Neighbors don’t appreciate their autos being damaged, their flowerbeds being used as a potty space. As a result cats disappear or suffer a painful death by poisoning. I became aware of someone whose autos were being deeply scratched. He hung aluminum pie pans near his autos hoping the breeze/wind would deter the cats, to no avail. Animal control wasn’t able to solve the problem...too many, also not knowing who the owners were. This dilemma led to the cats being shot and dropped into the trash. He was legally in the right. Too bad it came to this, but the neighbors would not contain their pets.
It might behoove you to read the following and adhere to the information. People who have cats should not permit them to roam free outdoors. Cats are vicious toward small wildlife. Also, your cat is at risk if meeting up with a feral cat. Please, you people who have cats be responsible pet owners.
I am an extremely responsible owner, I live in a large house with a backyard, it's hard for me to keep all 4 of my cats inside all the time. People should be worrying about animal torture, experiments on animals and the destruction of habitats instead of demonizing house cats as the reason birds are going extinct.
I agree with your statement about animal torture, etc. It’s abhorrent and those of us who care attempt to remedy the situations. But, those problems don’t negate the fact your cats along with other domesticated cats are destructive to wildlife. You must accept the facts and attempt to do your part in saving the defenseless small critters. Domesticated cats don’t need to be outside unsupervised if at all. A responsible pet owner not only cares for their beloved pets, they should also care for living things not in their care. You know of one bird...how many have been killed prior?
Why shouldn't cats be outside for their enjoyment? Both dogs and cats need to feel the air, the grass on their paws, be able to run. Yes I'm sure my cats have killed lots of animals like all cats do, it's their nature, I do my best to rescue any animal that they hunt and they almost always survive. Domesticated cats are NOT destructive to wildlife and I'm not even going to hear about it, I am sorry. Pollution, destruction of their habitat by construction and other human activities are what is killing the birds and all the other animals as well as climate change which affects crops and insects that they feed on, cats are not to blame for dwindling populations, I'm sorry, agree to disagree.
“Domesticated cats are NOT destructive to wildlife and I'm not even going to hear about it, I am sorry.”
So, you are disagreeing with the studies and resulting facts that domesticated cats are destructive to wildlife?
As per you: “My cats caught a bird, they always do this,” and “Yes I'm sure my cats have killed lots of animals like all cats do,”
Honestly, I’m not being argumentative. (I don’t want you swearing at me!) Don’t you see you are being defensive of your pets doing the same thing you blame humans for. Yes, it’s their nature as they are still predators, but we don’t have to exacerbate the problem by permitting them to roam free. They shouldn’t be hunting as they are domesticated. They aren’t in the wild hunting for survival.
Forgive me, but I keep looking at your screen name and equate your response to your cats killing wildlife....to Marie-Antoinette’s response to the death of beings she was responsible for. Just sayin’. Please read the articles I’ve posted links to and try to see we all are responsible for this earth and the living creatures who are a part of it.
As a final note I once lived in a county in the South, where pet owners let their cats roam free resulting in an abundance of feral cats. The county was putting down over 3,000 cats a month! So sad because not only did the cats suffer along with the wildlife, the domesticated cats were being killed or diseased.
Well Marie Antoinette never actually said that, it was a rumor. I'm sorry, I've read the arguments and studies and they always come from people who love birds or work for bird related organizations and I don't like it because a) there's just no way cats are the biggest threat to wildlife and b) it just perpetuates this notion that cats are a pest that needs to be eradicated. Just look at what you said, a county putting 3 thousand cats down? That is a scandal. First of all no healthy animal should EVER be put to death. Ever. Not even feral animals. How can we say "oh cats are killing wildlife" when such unbelievable abuse is happening to cats? by people? The way I see it it's the cats that are being exterminated and that suffer greatly everyday.
As a side note I have to say that any person that works in a place and puts a healthy animal to death is an absolute psychopath. I'm sorry, there's no way a sane person can do that for a living. And that's another thing that bothers me, us animal loving people somehow put those workers on pedestals and then point the finger at owners that are irresponsible or overpopulation as somehow causing it, no, these people are murderers.
Problem with domesticated cats is they kill for instinct, not food, so then they kill again and again. But backyard cats are a minimal impact, the real impact is from the ones allowed to roam free.
Once a cat goes feral, they are almost impossible to domesticate. They have to be put down. I worked for a small company out in the country. The owners were able to trap four to bring inside the shop to feed and water, but they never were domesticated. Another stray wondered by so food was being put outside closer and closer to the trap. We finally got it inside. It went wild clawing and screaming. I took one look and told the owners the cat was dying so we took it to the one vet who treated wild animals for free. Sure enough, feline leukemia the death sentence. I always look at their gums if it lets me. If the gums are white it’s a sign of the leukemia.
The cats captured by the county weren’t healthy so they didn’t put them down willynilly. They were feral, starving, diseased with feline leukemia a horrible, painful disease which is fatal.
People move and leave their animals behind to fend for themselves by living on lizards, birds, rats....anything to survive.
This actually happened to me before. Not from cats but a black bird had landed on one of my many outdoor plants I keep on my patio. The branch wasn't very strong and snapped, and the bird's wing was broken and it was left lying on my deck squirming around trying to survive.
I googled for an animal hospital/shelter in my area that took injured animals to nurse back to health and drove it there. I don't know whether it survived or not, but my conscience is clear of having done the most I could have done given the circumstances.