Losing hope for this site - General Discussion Discussion

[–] [email protected] (5871) 7 years ago

Oh don't quit yet! We've had a few good exchanges between us. I admit that I get discouraged and back off when I try to engage in a political discussion only to encounter swearing, insults and juvenile name calling. ( you DO know who I am referring to,ha!)

I had some bad experiences with nasty posters on IMDB and I wanted to turn over a new leaf here and not engage in so much negativity. I can lose my cool too!!

I've confined a lot of my posting to old tried and true favorite sitcoms like Lucy, Andy Griffith, etc. I seem to get in less trouble posting on boards like that.

I'd hate to see you give up entirely.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

This is encouraging. That is a good idea too, to maybe stay away from certain politically hot topics. The worst of the worst are attracted there it seems.

The few good exchanges I do have on the not so controversial topics though do not stay active very long. I am obviously here because I am bored and would like to see the good stuff a little more active.

Next semester when I start classes again I will be too busy to be here, so for the next month or so I would like to try to get some entertainment out of this and not just frustration.

But thanks for the word of encouragement. hopefully more like you stay active here. Not that we have to agree on everything but when we do disagree we keep it pleasant and informative. That is all I ask for.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Always remember to have a side chick through every semester in college (unless you are female, substitute with male OR female, if you are attracted to your own). You should not be a bored undergrad when in college.

Three things to focus on in college:

1.) Your classes
2.) The opposite sex
3.) Any dream hobby you would like to carry out

For me, it was a hard azz biology major. I really wish I could have spent more time on #2. Even when approached, I hardly wanted anything to do with a relationship because I thought I was too good for anyone. I had a dream hobby of acting and was able to secure background work and stand in work after I graduated.

Oh life...

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

"Always remember to have a side chick through every semester in college (unless you are female, substitute with male OR female, if you are attracted to your own). You should not be a bored undergrad when in college. "

Lol good advice but I am married now and have a child. I still work full time but I am used to either working more than one job or being in school full time. The only reason I took the summer off from college was because we are traveling out of country in about a week and I did not want to try to figure out how to make up for missing 3 weeks of classes. So I took the summer off.

Now the reason why i had a family before I finished school, which appears irresponsible; is because I was active duty infantry marine for 5 years (reserve for 2 and inactive for 1) and had plans at first to get into medicine than tried to get a career in law enforcement. Both things did not work out and now I am finishing my bachelors in computer science. Along the way I got married and had one kid. I am almost 30 now and I had my party days. They are behind me now.

God it would have been awesome to screw around at 20 in college but alas I came from a very poor family and did not have direction until I had military experience.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Nothing wrong with that. So you are basically taking post grad stuff. I knew a guy who married after graduating undergrad and he worked at Harbor Freight tools and was the manager. He went back to the university I was at to take pre reqs for medical school. Actually, now that I come to think of it, there were two other guys in their late 20s, early 30s, who wanted to go to Pharmacy and Medical school, respectively. One was in the Marines and the other was in the Navy. The guy in the Marines had a kid and a wife, the guy in the Navy had a gf.

Pretty awesome I had them as lab partners. I basically aced every lab report because I had some think tanks on my end.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

Yeah i agree, though I missed out on fun when I was younger (and I still had some but between all the work ups and deployments it was not much). But if I would have went to school right after high school it would have been a relative waste of time, because I was so directionless.

Also having world experience allowed me to see how utterly full of crap most professors and curriculum are. Even in science fields there seems to be a lot of biases and incorrect assumptions that are taught as fact.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Well, I do not think it is necessarily "fun". I mean you fool around too much and you can get caught in bear traps. You end up impregnating someone, contracting some sort of life attaching disease, or just suffer death from ODing.

I guess moderation is always key. I tried everything once and that what all I really expected. Bars, relationships, etc.

I think everyone should try everything once.

Kind of like eating at a buffet. Why fill up on salad when you have to try bits of everything else?

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

"I think everyone should try everything once. "

I don't know if I agree with that. I don't need to try having sex with a man once just to make sure I am straight. I don't need to try heroin once just to see if I like it. I would not recommend killing or rapping someone just to try it. I know I am taking this to an extreme but the point is, if you know it is bad or bad for you, you should not try it just to see is my point.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

"I think everyone should try what THEY would want to try once."

Everything is a choice.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

Why did you go and change your own quote? if you do that don't put it quotes, it can cause confusion. Say something like 'I should have said'. or put a "*" somewhere.

Still I think we should encourage people to make smart responsible choices. And I am not sure how much of what we do is actually choice. It seems we are predetermined based on our pyschology to make predictable choices. If we always would have made the same choice given those specific circumstances, is it really a choice? hard to say. But if it is a choice I would prefer smart responsible choices. There is no good reason to try heroin, there is no good reason to try killing someone, if you are heterosexual and not confused there is no good reason to have sex with the same sex.

"Everything is a choice."

"No, wrong. Choice is an illusion created between those with power and those without." Merovingian

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Well, there is no good reason to; however, what if someone wanted to?

I would hope that people would have common sense. Then again, that is probably why we created government because we need a larger body to approve of what we do is either right or wrong.

Back in the caveman days, anything went, total anarchy. Was killing okay? Probably. Was stealing one's food supply okay? Yes (because you had to survive). Was raping the other sex fine (what was rape to a caveman)?

I would have liked to think that looking to a higher body of power is what made humans civilized; however, people still have their own choices to do what they want.

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[–] phantom8 (418) 7 years ago

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

I am a very tasty part of that slosh Phantom8....very tasty part of that slosh...

*pounds fingers on table*

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[–] napsdufroid (2077) 7 years ago

What is a slosh?

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

I am watching Dr. Jordan Peterson's biblical series on youtube right now. if you are interested in the psychology of belief and consciousness I would recommend it. Very interesting even if I do agree with all of it.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

I find it funny how many of these Dr.s have so much time on their hands. It's like "why not live a little instead of worrying so much?"

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

Marines are the meanest of all military people.

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

Marines are the meanest of all military people.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

We are also the best. But yes, we are not known for are niceness.

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

Yeah you're the best at being hateful jerks that love to abuse others. Must be all that brainwashing you go through during training. I cannot stand marines.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

I bet you like that fact you live in a free world. Marines are a big part of why. it is easy to say we are so mean and hateful jerks and that you can't stand us. We have to be this way to not only be great warriors but to effectively kill our enemy because we are so mean we are taught to actually want to kill the enemy just hoping someone gives us a reason and then we jump all over it because it is what we love to do. GIVE HIM ONE! kILL!

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

Ah thanks for the warning.

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[–] napsdufroid (2077) 7 years ago

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

I'm not a troll and I don't appreciate you starting rumors. This has got to stop. I'm going to report you to the mods.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

The mods will see that you like to start arguments by making statements like "Your posts are stupid" and "Marines are mean" etc.

There is all the proof they need right here. I will copy and paste each and every one for them to see.

Good luck with your reporting!

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

Nothing I've done remotely resembles trolling behavior. You have no freaking idea what you're talking about concerning my posts. I've only been warned once by mod and that was because I told another user to "go fuck himself and die". He also was warned for disrespecting me as well. We were both warned. Don't you think that if I were trolling, mod would have warned me more than once? You and 2 other people (those two on on my ignore list) accuse me of being a mega troll. Lol, as if! I've never done anything close to being described as "mega". As much as I'd like to take the credit of being a "super or mega troll", I'll have to respectfully decline because trolling just not my style. Sorry to disappoint.

Regardless, I'm gonna suggest that you re-educate yourself about the correct definition of what that word, troll means

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

[–] Barclays (311) 13 hours ago

"I've only been warned once by mod and that was because I told another user to 'go fuck himself and die'."

I have never been warned and that is pretty bad. If you have been warned once all ready, it means you have less of a chance to not be warned again. You are all ready on their radar. Thanks for incriminating yourself. LOL

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

Whatever.
The Moderator actually apologised to me for giving me a warning but he had to be fair.
So try again. Or maybe you ought to just stfu since you have no idea what you're even talking about. You wanna be right so bad even though you're dead wrong no matter how we look at the situation.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

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[–] db20db (17237) 7 years ago

FYI,there's a very good possibility that Barclays and saviodium are socks of the same troll.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

You would have me in a pretzel. I could not see that, but do private message me on why you think so.

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[–] db20db (17237) 7 years ago

I don't understand the pretzel comment.

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[–] napsdufroid (2077) 7 years ago

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

That's understandable but is it really necessary to be mean to American civilians as well? There's a time and place for all types of behaviors. Right?

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

It is not that we actively or consciously try to be mean. It is that we are mean and challenging to each other, kind of like a competive sibling rivalry; but we are suspicious and very no nonsense to non-Americans when deployed; because we are not sure which are the good guys and which are the bad, and because the many of the non-Americans we deal with are all rather horrible by our standards.

Because it becomes so common we do not realize that are demeanor and 'meanness' are not 'normal' by societies standards.

Understand that most Marines have dealt with an unbelievable amount of bullshit and seen alot of terrible shit that has made us very jaded. Because the shit has been so bad we have difficulty tolerating minor trivial 'problems' most people have; and react very impatiently to it.

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[–] Slim (108) 7 years ago

I meet some Royal Marines while on a posting with the army, I was bricking it a bit at first ( forces rivalry) but they were a great bunch and made us feel welcome.

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[–] Slim (108) 7 years ago

Oh British royal marine commando's may be different to American marines.

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

Most of the marines I've encountered were jerks and for some reason most of disabled vets are marines.

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[–] Slim (108) 7 years ago

Talking of jerks every paratrooper I ever met was a total jerk. Every time I met one ten minutes latter they were picking a fight usually with a lot smaller target.

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[–] wanton87 (934) 7 years ago

I had some bad experiences with nasty posters on IMDB and I wanted to turn over a new leaf here and not engage in so much negativity.

What was nice about IMDB pjpurple, was that you had a functional ignore feature. It doesn’t appear that the one here will be fixed any time soon. In fact, it seems like it’s been quite some time since I’ve noticed any updates at all.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

It is functional. All you have to do is turn off the email notification feature in your profile and it works like a charm. Oh and you also have to come to terms that it pretty much nukes entire discussions; rather than, just the posts of the person you want ignored.

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[–] wanton87 (934) 7 years ago

Oh and you also have to come to terms that it pretty much nukes entire discussions; rather than, just the posts of the person you want ignored.

That’s what I meant Arvin. I already have the email notifications turned off. But I prefer to stay signed in, rather than have to sign in and out in order to catch the whole thread. But knowing what I know now, I would have never used it until it was fully functional.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Your account name is really making me want to get Chinese takeout; however, I am way past my budget for this next week.

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[–] wanton87 (934) 7 years ago

Haha! I get that a lot. It’s basically a combination of different parts of my full name, and it comes off sounding in such a way 😀

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[–] [email protected] (5871) 7 years ago

wanton-- I know a lot of people liked the ignore button. But I never used it.

Several years ago one poster and I had a disagreement. I just didn't like her name calling and she told me to put her on ignore. I told her that I didn't mind a mature discussion and difference of opinion. I could just do without the playground name calling. lol

A few posters made a huge deal out of announcing that they had "certain people" on ignore. There was a poster on The View site who was such a drama queen. She would routinely announce her list of ignored posters. But somehow she always knew what was being discussed by those she "had on ignore".

I think some people only pretended to put people on ignore. They reminded me of little kids who stick their fingers in their ears and then say, "Nyah, nyah! I can't hear youuuu!"

I prefer to read the posts, even those who disagree with me, and if I can't think of a civil reply, then I ignore it! I know some people just troll. I'll read their posts sometimes, but I definitely don't respond to people who just want to start an argument.

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[–] wanton87 (934) 7 years ago

I rarely ever used it over at IMDB pjpurple, but found it to be helpful in a few instances. Most of the boards that I frequented didn’t attract the members that I wished to avoid.

Here it’s a little different since most of the activity is in the General Section. I probably wouldn’t use it very often here either, but would still like to have the option.

I will probably only monitor the individual boards that I like from now on, even if it means that the activity is only occasional. There's not much for me here in the General Section.

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[–] Information-Police (4889) 7 years ago

Just needs more people posting

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

MovieChat can best be described as leftover slosh in a glass of say....hot chocolate.

You know when you have a nice hot chocolate, ready to drink, with the foam and the marshmallow and the brown chocolate colored milk? You keep drinking and drinking and drinking it until you are left with bits of chocolate powder at the bottom and it's like "why should I even bother scooping/drinking that? Should I even bother to heat more milk up or put hot water in it, just so I can drink up everything?"

That is what this site is like.

Most people who are actually on here WERE movie goers and people who were fans of actors/actresses etc. They left because they did not see topics that were to their liking and/or they just did not believe that they needed to start discussions on topics they liked, like on IMDb. See the database of people was built up there because there was an incentive to be there (no idea what that was).

What you have now is that slosh at the bottom to where it is filled with trolls and people, who love to write about tangential topics that have NOTHING to do with movies and shows.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

Yeah this is what it seems like, good analogy.

Still depressed about IMDb's obvious anti-free speech move by closing down its boards and i hope that site goes down in flames for it.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Well, it still has an awesome "trivia" feature that this side lacks.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

I don't even go there anymore specifically because I want to be part of the traffic lowering. In all honesty the board there was not that bad compared to any other discussion site, so the reason they gave was B.S.

They just did not like people speaking freely about movies and shows because it potential hurt ticket sales and such. In a film industry plagued by bad movies this was actual a real threat to hollywood's revenue.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Oh yeah, actresses and actors complained!

They need to keep those people because they make $ off actors/actress, crew, directors, and producers.

I would think most of the message board goers had no contribution to IMDb Pro to where they made the majority of their $ to keep the site up.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

yeah probably right. That is why I really want to see the site traffic tank in response. Which I heard it is somewhat down but not nearly enough to have an impact.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

See, I never joined IMDbPro..okay..maybe just once; however, I never ended up paying anything out of pocket. I just wanted to make sure I could get my credits up there. Of course, being hell that it is to secure a lead role, I ended up having all these background roles, crew roles, and stand in roles. Now days it is just to keep inspiring me to go after that dream. I love the trivia section, as I mentioned in a previous post.

It also helps that it has a history of actors's/actresses's movie/show histories. I can watch them in order.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

Yeah I liked IMDb's layout but for movie history and trivia I go to wikipedia now. Not as good but still I guess I am 'boycotting' IMDb.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Hey, I am all for boycotting.

I have already boycotted Walmart, Hardees, McDonalds, Amazon etc.

I had boycotted a ton more; however, I keep forgetting who I had boycotted.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

Lol, yeah the list gets so long it becomes non-functional.

Out of curiosity why boycott Amazon? They most have done something I am not aware of.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

They expect people to work mandatory overtime and they do not pay a livable wage (it gets political here, so I will not go into it any further).

Also, their warehouse jobs are very high turnover and I do not support business that thinks my fellow humans are disposable.

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[–] Apis (1624) 7 years ago

Also, Amazon is the owner of IMDb, remember? They are the ones that closed the boards.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

I did not know that. I actually try not to look into it too much because if I did I would end up boycotting everything and not be able to shop anymore. lol I just knew IMDb closed its boards over questionably political reasons so I choose not to visit that site anymore.

Crap now I have to boycott amazon. lol

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[–] Apis (1624) 7 years ago

Hehe, sorry I ruined Amazon for you. But for the more positive note, before Amazon bought IMDb, there were no boards on IMDb. Amazon started them in first place. This is the case of "lord giveth, lord taketh away".

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

lol interesting. I am learning so much.

now I don't know whether or not I can justify boycotting either if they put into place into the first place. fuck I am so conflicted. lol

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[–] napsdufroid (2077) 7 years ago

You'd be surprised how easy it is to not use Amazon.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

And that too! Then again, I still cannot afford to boycott them because I have credits on that site and I still like their "trivia" section.

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[–] Apis (1624) 7 years ago

I see your point. They are practically unboycottable because they are omnipresent. The only way to boycott them is if one goes to live in a cave.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

We must be vigilant. We must track their shares and their presence among mergers.

So far I have stopped buying anything from their online site and I have done pretty well actually. I have not bought a single thing from them this year.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

that is impressive.

since I said I was boycotting them 1 hour ago i have ordered 5 things. I have such little will power. hahaha

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Start tomorrow or allow yourself a two week notice.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

but but but I have like 15 books on my wish list. shit. And I have a wife that has my credit card. I am totally fucked. And not always in the good way. hahahha

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

You could tell your credit card company to block any charges on Amazon's website.

Just buy your books from Barnes & Noble, 1/2 Price Books, Half and Half Books (some weird chain in Tennessee)

But then again, I would look those guys up on wikipedia to make sure they did not do anything unethical.

I always seem to have a problem with that, boycotting something and then looking them up only to see that they did something totally unethical.

See, I cannot boycott too many supermarkets because they are pretty much all unethical. LOL

Meijers - hates unions
Kroger- has fish farmed fish that was on an endangered species list
Whole Foods- prices up their items
Costco- pretty much ethical; however, I am not always going to buy stuff in bulk
Sam's Club- belongs to Walmart
Walmart- low wages, no health benefits for workers, etc.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

"You could tell your credit card company to block any charges on Amazon's website. "

well than I will probably never get fucked in the good way again. lol

I have heard Barnes and Noble has done some shady shit, like putting emphasis on carrying books from one political party but not the other forcing customers to order them at full price.

the other 2 I have not heard off.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Well, I am kind of biased. What political party was it? If it was Democrat, I am totally with them. LOL!

Yes, I can be a hypocrite.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

well at least you admit you are a hypocrite (Democrat)

We all are to some degree.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Yeah or Hobby Lobby. I mean I would never need to go there; however, I do not care that they were against birth control or planned parenthood because I am not a female.

I should be against it, but it really does not affect me in the sense.

It is actually fun boycotting. It kind of narrows down where you would want to shop at and because of this, you are able to save way more money.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

I should shop at hobby lobby more. I am for birth control but abortion is not a healthy form of birth control, so i am totally against planned parenthood.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Well then there you go. Tell your wife that your credit card company started hating Amazon, BUT you guys can shop at Hobby Lobby more.

If she is anti-abortion, she will be right there with you on that.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

she might go for that. She likes hobby lobby.

she shares most of my values, that's why I married her. She does not even understand how woman can consider abortion.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Me neither, but it is a choice right?

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

It is a choice so far as killing anyone or not killing anyone is a choice. I can choose to kill my 2 year old right now. It would be murder and evil and I would be a monster for doing so (I would kill myself before hurting my child btw).

Is it a choice that women should be allowed to make in a legal sense? I don't think so.

The only exception I and most conservatives believe is if the life of the mother is at risk, in which case we do our best to save her life even if that means removing the child. But that is a significantly different circumstance.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

IDK..I am still fighting myself on that.

Because anything vulnerable should be looked at first. I would think the only times it would be right is in case of rape or there is a potential death that could result from it to the mother.

I mean most females would like to think they are the weaker sex right (even though, I beg to differ.) If they can hold down pain of birth and have high pain tolerance, they have to be somewhat stronger than they would think right?

Child > Female > Male

The child, fetus, and baby's life always comes first.

I think that is the only thing, politically, that I disagree with in my own party.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

When it comes to a mothers life being in danger we have to save at least one. In this case we are not killing the fetus, it becomes incidental to saving the mother. If we are pro-life we have to be pro-life. It does not make sense to risk 2 deaths when we know we can save one. in this case it becomes a simple numbers game. I think it is tragic and sad and wished this did not happen but it happens.

But it is such a small fraction of abortion cases it in no way justifies the other 99.9% of the time it is used (which is a very very unhealthy form of birth control.)

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Not one life should be killed and I still think our military is unethical for doing it; however, it is inevitable.

I think if the military draft came back, it would be unethical! I would have to boycott the U.S. LOL!

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

There is a difference between innocent life that has not even had a chance to open it's eyes yet and a fully functional human that is choosing to engage in evil. The later forfeits its right to life when it engages in behavior that would kill other innocents (those not trying to hurt anyone).

I do not feel bad about any of the piece of shit terrorists I killed. I hate the fact they used families and children as human shields that got caught up in it. That fucks with my head every day.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

In a draft though, one would have no choice right?

But yeah, then there is that other part where you have to be somewhat fierce in the eyes of fighting for all those innocents that get caught up in the middle. What terrorists do is totally unfair!

I mean it is fine to be evil, but be willing to fight a fair right. Do not bring women and children into it (unless of course the women and children WANT to be a part of causing harm.)

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

Well in some cases a draft would be necessary to preserve your culture and your countries values. It is usually better to have a choice but in some cases the right (or 'better) choice needs to be made for you. Because people are weak and scared sometimes a higher authority needs to move them to action. This applies only in a few necessary exceptions.

There is not 'fairness' in war, no honor in battle. It is fucking ugly and in that moment the right and wrong slip away and all that remains is keeping the guy to the right and left alive and the asshole trying to kill you dead.

They are desperate and do not care about women and children. That is not just the terrorist, the 'normal' Muslims in those regions do not care about women and children and treat them like slave or worse. So imagine how little the terrorist care.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

It really makes me wonder how it became so bad over there. I mean the government has got to be really and I mean REALLY corrupt.

That is basically modern day anarchy.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

I will answer this in a few days. I am out of time. sorry. have a nice evening.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

I am back so I will answer why the fundamental Islamic countries are so bad. It is not 'financial' corruption that is leading to it.

It is a corruption at a religious and cultural level. The holy text they follow, which I have read all of it, basically encourages the men to embrace all of their darkest instincts. It is a totalitarian conquerors doctrine. In addition to that horrid view point, they deem any outside influence to be an attack on their culture and an abomination to Allah. So there is no accepting any criticism of their beliefs.

In addition to that the teaching are very clear, with little room for interpretation and the punishments are just a clear and very severe. Where as Christianity is much more vague in principles but more lenient on the consequences and very forgiving.

In addition to that, around 13th century; can't remember exactly when, there was a mass decision on the main stream Islam at the time that decided any and all Western infuences was to be rejected. So basicly the beliefs and society stopped evolving with the times. Meaning they have not gone through the age of enlightment yet; but it is difficult to have that today because too many western 'liberals' tolerate their horrid practice and attack any critic for being 'Islamiphobic' meaning for the time being the world of Islam is impervious to criticism that might lead to an intellectual awakening on a large scale.

Watch Sam Harris, an Atheist that I respect greatly, on this topic. He lays out the facts very clearly and explains why islam is fundamentally more evil than Judaism, Christianity or basically any other religious out there. And keep in mind Harris is an avid critic of all religion so when he singles out Islam you know it is for a reason.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

In short terms, the religion reigns supreme on government and it does not help that the religion is also one where punishments are to an extreme and the views are actually offended by any other viewpoint?

That makes sense.

It's like in the U.S., the federal government sets the boundaries between church and state. If the U.S. were to be Christian, it probably would not be as lenient (more Conservative) than it is now right?

I guess we should be thankful for our federal government to an extent.

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[–] Apis (1624) 7 years ago

Good for you. I have respect for people who take their boycotting seriously and not just for a couple of days until they discover it's too inconvenient to live as they preach. 👍

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

Me too. I commend their commitment. I have successfully boycotted Target and been avoiding IMDb but outside that I have not really committed fully to any other boycotts. which I should start putting more effort forward to place my money where I want it to go.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

I am guilty. When Hardees comes up with some good azz burger, I have to try it.

I still remember the CEO being so against raising the minimum wage from $7.25/hr.

https://thinkprogress.org/puzder-labor-abuses-f235d772bc8c

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

I don't even go there anymore specifically because I want to be part of the traffic lowering.

That was so spiteful.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

It was pathetic of them to close their boards down. What other manner can I protest a website except to avoid it and bad mouth it?

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[–] napsdufroid (2077) 7 years ago

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[–] phantom8 (418) 7 years ago

Arvin.......
"What you have now is that slosh at the bottom to where it is filled with trolls and people, who love to write about tangential topics that have NOTHING to do with movies and shows."
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Sorta like what you've been doing on this entire thread?

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

*Refer back to your previous post that was written in this same exact manner.

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[–] phantom8 (418) 7 years ago

*Refer back to your previous post that was written in this same exact manner.

Sorta like what you've been doing on this entire thread?

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[–] phantom8 (418) 7 years ago

I put it in the wrong place and deleted it, Sherlock

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

No I meant MY response to this same post. That is, if you cared to want a response to it.

Then again, it actually would have worked in both places because both discussions were tangential. Of course, you would have to look out because once I throw something movie/t.v. related, your post would be null.

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[–] napsdufroid (2077) 7 years ago

Just FFR, "Refer" alone is fine. "Refer back" is tautological. One cannot refer forward.

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[–] lasteven (309) 7 years ago

The word has come to have some odd usages, at least in the American medical system. You go to your usual doctor to get a referral to be sent on to a doctor you've never seen before, so it's the opposite of being sent back. It's evolved to carry the sense "go here".

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[–] napsdufroid (2077) 7 years ago

But only in that specific context, where it has a different meaning kinda like beat (as it physically inflict harm), beat (as in win), and beat (as in a musical beat). "Refer back" used as a reference remains tautological.

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

Lol. You took the words right from me!

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[–] phantom8 (418) 7 years ago

me?

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

Whoever you got your info about me being a troll is mistaken. Here's another suggestion for you, stop being a follower. You're the type of person who would believe any absurdity like if 3 people told you that the they were telepathic.😐

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

If 3 people wrote to me, that is a pretty good odds and in fact, you should be worried at that point! Usually if it's just one person, he/she is just bluffing. Three people means that there is HUGE support in knowing that the person being blamed, is definitely someone to be wary of. Should I wait until 99.9% of entire movie chat here is writing to me about you being a troll?

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[–] MisandryFamous (5) 7 years ago

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[–] Catbookss (13664) 7 years ago

That's not my experience. I've had quite a number of good discussions with people on this site, and on IMDb there were whole boards I'd avoid because they were so troll-heavy, or filled with angry people fighting.

It is true that the conversations usually don't last as long, or not on the boards I frequent, because there are fewer posters here. Also, I believe Jim changed the default from getting email notifications to not, so there will be a number of posters who only come here infrequently, who don't realise their posts have gotten responses.

It was also easier to check for activity on your favourite boards on IMDb than it is here, because IMDb allowed us to favourite boards.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

"That's not my experience. I've had quite a number of good discussions with people on this site, and on IMDb there were whole boards I'd avoid because they were so troll-heavy, or filled with angry people fighting."

I think pjpurple was right and the reason I am having such bad luck is because of the topics I am posting on, usually the 'hot' topics because those are always fresh. Well they are fresh because the trolls are there posting all the time.

I think I just need to avoid a few specific places and maybe I will do better.

I mean this one so far has been nice and I even maybe learned something.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

You can manually change that in your profile. If we are seriously not getting email notifications, that is horrible! I would hope this notification feature on the site is impeccable. If I miss a notification due to not being notified, I am going to flip!

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[–] Catbookss (13664) 7 years ago

Yes, we can turn on the email notifications, but most new people aren't going to know that option is there.

Eh, it happened any number of times on IMDb, never for more than a day before they fixed whatever had gone wrong. It's happened a couple of times here too, although not for a while. Not a big deal, I just roll with it.

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[–] TexasJack (12516) 7 years ago

Personally I try to just enjoy the good stuff (and I've had lots of enjoyable discussions here) and laugh at the bad. For that reason, I find the political discussions quite amusing. I can guess with a 99% probability what the inside of a thread is going to look like just based on the title. There are two posters in particular who engage in the same Itchy & Scratchy routine so often that I'm starting to wonder if they are bots that trigger on any thread with "Trump" in the title.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

Bots that write about politics.

Is that the automation speaking against the humans? LOL

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[–] Catbookss (13664) 7 years ago

For that reason, I find the political discussions quite amusing. I can guess with a 99% probability what the inside of a thread is going to look like just based on the title.

Likewise. I rarely click into them because it's so predictable.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

That is probably a good idea because there is nothing but ignorance and misinformation in those areas. When you point out the misinformation you get insulted. So yeah better to stay away, like avoiding the bad neighborhoods in a city.

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[–] Barclays (960) 7 years ago

There are two posters in particular who engage in the same Itchy & Scratchy routine so often that I'm starting to wonder if they are bots that trigger on any thread with "Trump" in the title.

Itchy and Scatchy is a good analogy.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

About half a day ago, you were losing hope and yet your thread is going viral (well viral for MovieChat's definition). It is all ready up to 85 replies!

So far I have had three thread hit 100!

That's great!

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

That is probably only because I have the time right now to reply to almost every comment. in 10 minutes I am stepping away and imagine this will die down.

But these last few discussions have been 10x better than the others. I think it was you that suggested staying away from certain topics right? that was good advice.

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[–] arvin g borkar (2854) 7 years ago

No, it was Catbookss.

I tend to stimulate conversation on threads because of my hypocritical oath. I say that I am totally AGAINST tangential topics because I want the general discussion to be about everything movie/t.v. show related. It is basically the first page that any new member comes on and so, it is the brand face of this entire site. If all the new member sees is tangential topics and they are a movie/t.v. show fan, they would leave this site in a blink of an eye.

Even on this thread I have people attack me on being tangential on topics; however, my discussions usually lead to lots of responses. Some mistake me for a troll because of that as well. It's tough to be on this site, but whatever.

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[–] saviodium (500) 7 years ago

love to keep going but I am out of time.

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[–] db20db (17237) 7 years ago

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[–] napsdufroid (2077) 7 years ago

"Now I am not saying I am a perfect poster, I have a bad temper and get annoyed with people probably a little too fast."

In your case, that's like saying Hitler was a little bit of a Nazi, or that an H-bomb is equal to a firecracker.

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[–] Birchwood (8) 7 years ago

I've only just discovered this website as alternative to IMDb, but I like it. It's nice to have other people's perspectives on films and series I watched and I missed it, since February.

I'm not too annoyed with people online in general, let alone on IMDb or this website. I don't understand why people get so angry over a forum to the extend of swearing and raging. It's just a film, don't worry. I do like the occasional drama though. The patterns are funny. "Sensitive" topic? CTRL + F, search for SJW. Big disagreement? CTRL + F, search for troll. It'll pop up, guaranteed. :)

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