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The 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s, all feel like discrete periods


The 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s, all feel like discrete periods with their own personalities, but the last 17 years just feels like one blob of time to me.

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I found the 80s very memorable and the 90s and 2000s more forgettable. I hardly remember any pop culture past the 80s.

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The internet has created one globalized, monolithic hive mind... very little room for variation or individuality. Don't see it changing without a catastrophic nuclear war to shake things up

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Whoa, what extreme thinking that is. A nuclear war wouldn't shake up anything. It would be the end of all. Maybe you don't have any kids, but those that do, don't really want to deal with the aftermath of a nuclear war. Can you imagine trying to take care of a six month old baby, smack dab in the middle of a nuclear holocaust? Not fun.

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What I remember about the 50's and 60's is a parent could let a kid play outside all day and not worry about them being taken by someone. It was a different time.

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I think kids probably got taken at a similar rate but there was no media to sensationalize or report on it

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Yup. They got taken, and then the media started to report them and that's when parents woke up and realized how many kids get taken and began enforcing stricter playing rules.

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Hi Daphne/danish Dane!!

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Lol. Get your socks straight.

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Dane posted the same topic on another board

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So what? I do that all the time too. More exposure since users aren't on both boards. Now, why don't you stop cowardly hide behind a sock, Naps.

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You're white knighting and getting butthurt(it was directed at OP,why get involved?)

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Um....if you want to reply to the OP, reply to the OP. You replied to me, FYI.....

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I pressed reply right under his name,if you took it as a comment towards you it's not my fault

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Buddy, you replied directly to my post. That's why I got the email notice, and that's why the link brought me to your post. Please, look again and see who you replied to. It wasn't the op.

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Well then buddy, a mistake is a mistake.You apparently never made one I guess

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I've made plenty. And when corrected, I thank the person for pointing it out. Not act uppity and throw it back in their face. By the way, you're welcome.

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lol, you're welcome as well

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Are you guys Maui?

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My point is that people felt safer then than they do today.

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Yeah, that's great. Problem with feeling safe, and things being safe aren't exactly the same thing.

Let's say, would I be safe crossing a highway wearing blindfolds even though I felt safe doing it?

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Well that's true, but people got beaten and raped all the time back then... only difference was that you were expected to just "suck it up". We all romanticize the past though.

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You also didn't have to worry about some busybody neighbor reporting you to CPS for letting your kids play outside. It's infuriating how CPS seems to turn a blind eye to real cases involving abuse yet go out of their way to harass innocent parents for trivial things.

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I grew up in the 90's, just when organized crime and all that was beginning to take hold where I live. Not to mention in a pretty bad neighbourhood (by local standards), and we played outside all day long. But people relyed on each other more I guess. Most our parents worked, but there were neighbours and grandparents keeping an eye out for us kids. Reprimanding us if we were misbehaving. And we listened (as much as kids do). And also, parents were cool with that. Now, people don't do that anymore.

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The actual statistics of child abduction by strangers has not changed, or if anything, has gone down.
It's only the PERCEPTION of safety which has changed.

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Maybe it gone down because now children are not allowed to play outside?

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LOL good try.
but no.

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The markers that most people use to identify those earlier decades (things like music and fashion, hairstyles) into discrete periods has definitely become more nebulous in the post 2000's. Fashion works very differently now so there is not like one single predominant style that lasts for years. There are still trends but they kind of pop up and die out within months instead of lasting for years. for example this 'cold shoulder' trend seems so old to me but it's only been around like 2 years and already I am so tired of seeing it.

The music industry has probably changed the most in the post internet world. Music used to MEAN something, you would get into music that you felt spoke to you and expressed what you felt. Music genres and bands were true subcultures. The styles that went with each musical genre were like your tribal colors. It was part if an identity. Now, people just wear vintage band T-shirts for bands they don't even know or like, just as a fashion accessory. Why would you advertise some band you don't like? Don't you have any bands you do like, and why not wear their shirt? It is SO WEIRD to me. It's like white people getting Kanji tattoos when they can't read it and don't even know what it means.

tl;dr
These kids today!
*shakes cane*
get off my lawn!

But also, I feel like maybe 30 years from now, the early 2000's decades might feel more discrete. It's easier to see the patterns from a distance. The transition from the 60's to the 70's (style-wise) didn't happen on new years eve 1969, it was sort of a gradual change that happened more like 1972-73-ish.
And the 80's iconic styles also started earlier in the 70's. There is always some overlap when the old style is kind of concurrent with and battling the new style. The late 70's which I lived through, definitely had that disco vs punk battle of styles.

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I think the post 2000 era will be defined more by iphone iterations than decades

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rock stars were once such mythical creatures
up there with presidents playmates and preachers

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I agree on the music. Music has evolved much like technology, where there were very distinct eras as instruments, mediums and studios advanced. At some point, they reached a plateau or equilibrium.

The advancements in computers saw each generation of processors and peripherals render the previous obsolete. Now, you can still use a decade old computer to surf the web, send emails, watch movies, listen to music, etc... I can look back at the early advancements and be like "Hey you remember having Soundblaster sound cards? You remember when you needed a separate MPEG2 decoder card for DVDs?"

Music is the same way. It used to be you needed a big band. Then the Beatles came along with their "guitar music."

Then you had electric guitars. Then the synthesizer sound of the early 80s. That sound was only because the technology of the synthesizer was not advanced enough to mimic real world instruments, so it generated that artificial tone sound.

At some point in the late 90s much of the music all started to sound the same. There was no distinct line between genres after a certain time. The subcultures that went along with the genres also seemed to disappear.

Finally, there was a limit on consumption from live music only, to live and real-time radio only. Then to vinyl and 8 track and cassette and CD.

So things of the past stayed in the past. Even when you could play music "on demand" with albums, you still had to dig out the record/tape/CD and put it in, limiting access to the past.

This generated an additional sense of nostalgia and distinct eras that could fit nicely in compartmentalized memories.

I've tried to explain this to my kids, who have had the entire catalog of their lives' music available at their fingertips all the time. For them, there is no finding that mixtape in a box while cleaning out the back of their closet and putting it on and instantly transporting to the era of denim jackets and t-top trans-ams.

They hear a song from when they were 5 and it's the same song that's been on their playlist from the time of their first iPod.

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I feel the same way. The early 2000s have a somewhat late 90s vibe, but the rest is, like you say, "one blob of time".

By the way, I think you meant to say "distinct" instead of "discrete".

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I think one big reason for the distinctiveness of the decades in the second half of the twentieth century was the post-WWII baby boom, by far the largest generation in US history, combined with the US's huge influence on popular culture worldwide in the same time period, and also perhaps including the near-eradication of the middle class.

A whole lotta people were children in the 50s and we had The Mickey Mouse Club and The Howdy Doody Show on TV. The same people hit puberty in the 60s and we had boys wearing long hair, the British (rock) Invasion, crowded college campuses, protests against being drafted into the military and getting sent off to die, and a breakdown in respect for authority. In the 70s the boomers were young singles looking for jobs, sex and gas for their cars. In the 80s they were boogeying in discos, part of Corporate America, raising a family, or some combination thereof. Oh, and they were jogging. In the 90s, the boomers were settling into middle age, but exploring the wonders of technology. Things quieted down, and social isolation started spreading.

Why did I mention the vanishing middle class? Social developments are largely determined by economic forces. I think the reason we are discussing these particular decades is because they have so many different and distinctive cultural attributes. They were a time when a lot of people were earning good money and having an influence in the cultural marketplace. That time is passed and our culture has paled, I feel.

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You really nailed it with your description of how the boomers evolved through those decades.

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Thank you 😁

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By the way, discrete and distinct do mean the same thing. πŸ˜‰ To be fair, I had to look it up.πŸ€”

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My bad, I was mixing it up with "discreet".

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I actually enjoyed the use of 'discrete', it's a word rarely used and when it is used it's usually misspelled as discreet. (which is also a real word but a completely different word)

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I looked it up because I know there are two forms of the word and I get them confused. It was nice to see it used properly. ☺

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the best periods for movies easily were the 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s... Movies (and music) took the biggest nosedive in the 80s, and they didn't get any better. After giving so many newer movies a chance, I just avoid them and watch something from TCM, or something made by a director I already like.

And I'm 34, so please don't call me a geezer :)

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All good music and movies are already been made. Art is not infinite. Sculptures and statues were peaked long long time ago. All the good ideas all already been done. Today, if you're making a statue you can only make a worse or, at best, as good as the old statues. But you can always make it bigger, stronger, higher, etc.

Movies today are the same old stories told with bigger budget, cleaner sound, stronger effects, clearer picture, crazier marketing, etc. It's virtually impossible to create new kind of movie anymore.

Yet it didn't stop us enjoying new sculptures and new statues, right? I for one don't stop enjoying new movies either.

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I don't think that analogy holds. I also think talented people don't have to write the same old story.. "Buffalo '66" is one of a few examples of a movie being good, original, even though it's 20 yrs old, but to me, that's pretty new, and I give a point handicap. 99% of movies made in the last 30-35 years aren't great.. They don't re-make em like they used to.. Rather, they don't STEAL em like they used to.

Take an older movie, and chances are is that it's great, or at least good.

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I can agree with that

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