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In fact, religious persons are not much different from atheists…


There are 4,000 religions in the world.

A religious person believes that 3,999 religions are wrong.

An atheist believes that 4,000 religions are wrong.

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Blasphemy! Burn the witch!

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A religious person believes that 3,999 religions are wrong.


You can be religious and still respect other people's religions.
So that is not necessarily true.

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Good point. Universalism is similar.

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You can be religious and still respect other people's religions.
So that is not necessarily true.

Respecting someone's beliefs and believing them to be true are two very different things. Indeed, I would say mutually exclusive. When you say "I respect your beliefs", it is tacitly understood that "but they are not my beliefs". In other words, "I believe you are wrong, but I respect your beliefs regardless." After all, if you don't think that belief X is wrong, then you would believe in X yourself. Stands to reason.

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Sure, that might be true in some cases.
But you can also believe that no religion is better than the other, even if you do belong to one faith.

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Universalists don´t believe that though and they still consider themselves religious. Although logically it does not make any sense.

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Early Universalists were Christian, it's true. They believed that all people are universally saved by God. I consider myself to be a universalist (little u) of an even purer form. I believe all life (not just humans) emerge from the same source and return to the same source. I make no claims as to what that source actually is. I don't think it's very plausible that this grand universe amounts to nothing more than a giant game of "Did you kiss my ass enough?"

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"Early Universalists were Christian". Christians in name only. There are professing Christians who are also universalists today like the Pope. It does not make it true, only scripture does.

Genuine Christians do not believe we are saved by "kissing God´s a** enough". We are saved by grace. Ephesians 2:8-9. You can´t earn your salvation by performing certain tasks or works or by "being good" because none of us are good in God´s sight (Romans 3:10, Romans 3:23) and our deeds are tainted by our sins (Isaiah 64:6).

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I guess we'll just have to wait for your explanation of why merely being scripture makes it true. Or, are you just trying to slip a baseless assumption past lesser minds? Hmmm...

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I am merely saying that logically you can´t be a Universalist and also be a Christian. A Christian believes that Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. "No one comes to the Father but by me". John 14:6. Jesus also said narrow is the path and few find it. That means only Jesus´followers will get eternal life and there will be relatively few.

Universalists believe that everyone goes to heaven. You cannot believe one while simultaneously believing the other when they are contradictory. That´s why Christians who believe all religions will end up in heaven are false converts. How can you genuinely believe in Christ and his teachings that only believers will get eternal life while telling others that people of all faiths will end up in heaven?

I am not trying to prove scripture to be true. It would be like a Muslim saying he supports gay marriage despite the Quran saying its haram. I don´t need to prove the Quran to be true or even believe in it to know that genuine Muslims believe in the Quran and its teachings.

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Way oversimplified and boring.

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I don't know the numbers but many MANY "atheists" are actually religious.
What is their religion?
Hate for religion,
mainly Christianity
sometimes Islam
RARELY Judaism.

The ones who aren't actually in this cult are ACTUAL atheists.

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