I've seen reports from credible sources that Elon Musk spent billions to hack voting machines, particularly in Pennsylvania. Trump openly bragged on camera about how well Elon Musk understood these computers. That is why Trump is letting Musk (and his kid) walk all over him. I've also seen reports from credible sources that enough of the ballots were paper and therefore not hacked by computers to verify Trump won. I absolutely don't know what and who to believe.
What's more, if Kamala Harris is proven to have won, what can be done to remove Trump and place Harris in office?
It's pointless to even talk about it, because whatever legal proceeding could be initiated won't finish before Trumps 2nd term expires anyway.
It has happened in the past a few times, not only in the US but in other countries as well, that an election result has been published, a government has been formed and then it turned out that the correct result would have been the other party winning, never made a difference, once the result is officially declared that's it, wrong declaration is tough luck, better luck next time.
If anyone wants to prevent that, they should make sure that nobody can mess with the voting procedure and the counting of votes in advance of an election.
It's a long known fact that Republicans have setup voting districts in extremely weird shapes in some states, known as "gerrymandering", just to make sure that all the Democratic voters would be concentrated in just a few districts where they have huge majorities, while Rebublicans win with just a small majority most of the districts and thereby win the state. https://www.ranker.com/list/most-gerrymandered-districts-in-america/eric-vega
Apparently Democrats have never even attempted doing anything against that, some federal judges have declared some of these districts unconstitutional, but they remain in place because Republican governors keep vetoing any new map, therefore Democrats now cannot complain about any suspected manipulation, because the most obvious manipulation happens in broad daylight.
Both parties gerrymander. Someone has to draw the maps.
I'm ashamed to admit it, but I don't know how California draws its maps. I have a faint recollection that Arnold Schwarzenegger got a law passed where maps would be drawn by some sort of "Citizens Committee." I don't know if it's made a material difference. California GOP every year tacks to the Mississippi platform. They've won like 2 statewide races in 28 years...
Yes, both parties do that, but since only the ones in government can redraw the map and the governor can veto a map he doesn't like, all you have to do to see who does most of it, is check how many of the 50 states currently have a Republican governor.
You see I have really mixed feelings. If it is true and Harris could be installed as president that would be great. If it is true that would also be terrible as it would mean we can't believe or trust election results.
The issue Democrats had in 2024 was that their 4am vote spike couldn't exceed We the People's turnout. Of course, ALL Americans should not have to worry about 4am shenanigans in any fashion, so I am all for top to bottom election reform. I just don't think democrats are ready for that.
Most democrat politicians work for war profiteers and corporations so it does not matter if a democrat wins. Democrats no longer even talk about universal healthcare so there is no reason to vote democrat.
People have to start a new political party that keeps politicians who secretly work for corporations and war profiteers out of that political party.
"Most democrat politicians work for war profiteers and corporations so it does not matter if a democrat wins. Democrats no longer even talk about universal healthcare so there is no reason to vote democrat."
That's what I've been saying for quite a while.
It's not that Republicans would be so great, it's that Democratic voters now find "the lesser evil" still too bad to vote for.
Notice how fast the swamp is being exposed with only 3 weeks into Trump’s 2nd term without his cabinet being complete?
Don’t be surprised if sometime in the near future they conduct an official investigation into the 2020 election only for the sake of optics and formality since they already had the receipts.
It wasn’t enough that people were told; they needed to see it and experience it for themselves. This is why things turned out better the way they did. Timing is everything.
Yup, she did worse than Biden in every single blue county.
Kamala ended up with an extra 9 million illegal/fake mail ballots days/weeks after the election was over while Biden received 15 million fake harvested ballots due to the scamdemic they implemented.
If Kamala lost it was because she was put into the campaign too late, Trump cashed in on the assassination attempt, and at least half the country are desperate frantic brainwashed idiots who will suffer the consequences of Trump's tyranny as much as everyone else his regime chooses to oppress.
Yeah, those nearly 4 months of campaigning just weren't enough! Also, if only she could have had 100% of mainstream media outlets in the tank for her, instead of 95%, that might have dragged her over the finish line.
The media acted as if Trump was a normal candidate and counted as a rational human being. Maybe they felt they had no choice but they could have done better.
Another is that she's a fucking idiot that nobody likes and there wasn't enough people who voted for her only because they were tricked into hating Trump.
Another is that people are tired of left wing lunacy that caters only to the lunatic fringe.
Or maybe, just maybe, Trump actually connects with voters, every day working people, more than any other candidate in recent memory.
Harris is just a partisan hack who'll say anything to get elected and then let the beast run itself.
Who Believes Kamala Harris Won and What Can Be Done If She Did?
posted 13 hours ago by CoriSCapnSkip (2709)
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I've seen reports from credible sources that Elon Musk spent billions to hack voting machines, particularly in Pennsylvania. Trump openly bragged on camera about how well Elon Musk understood these computers. That is why Trump is letting Musk (and his kid) walk all over him. I've also seen reports from credible sources that enough of the ballots were paper and therefore not hacked by computers to verify Trump won. I absolutely don't know what and who to believe.
What's more, if Kamala Harris is proven to have won, what can be done to remove Trump and place Harris in office?"