Power's detractors have not provided any evidence whatsoever of a sudden increase in her wealth or that she benefited from her role at USAID beyond her salary. The claim appears to come from a website called Inside Biden's Basement, which estimated that Samantha Power was worth between $10m and $30m. There is no breakdown of the figure or methodology but it does include three of Power's government ethics disclosure forms from 2021-22.
These forms show Power's income from various sources, including her teaching salary, investments, payments for speaking engagements and book royalties. Most of those figures are published in a range, such as shares in a particular company being worth between $15,000 and $50,000 or a bank account containing between $1m and $5m. As such, the range of results returned when estimating Power's wealth are wide. If one adds up the income and investments from the form that Power submitted before she was sworn in, external as administrator in 2021, in which her wealth and income come out at between about $9m and $22m. The most recent disclosure form available on the government website gives her accounts for 2023 and is problematic because it gives one account containing "over $1m" without stating an upper limit. If you take that as being between $1m and $5m in line with her other entries, you get an overall range of $9m to $25m. In line with the filing rules, the 2021 figure does include her $461,167 salary from her previous job at Harvard, while the latest figures do not include her $183,100 salary from USAID.
So from her published accounts, it seems that she was pretty wealthy before she started working at USAID (rather like Trump was before his election) and that has not changed a great deal, although that is working within very broad ranges. Glad to help.
No, when she started working for USAID, her net was between $6.7-million and $16.5-million, it's not possible to suddenly be at $30-million on a $180K salary.
Those are financial disclosures filed by her in January 2021. She got kickbacks just like a number of other corrupt politicians.
Please read my reply more carefully eg "Power's income from various sources, including her teaching salary, investments, payments for speaking engagements and book royalties. Most of those figures are published in a range"
She got kickbacks just like a number of other corrupt politicians.
Please link to your fact checked source for this. Oh sorry, I forgot.
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That was her reported net just before starting her Admin role at USAID;
Yes that is why I say, just above before she was sworn in, external as administrator in 2021,her wealth and income come out at between about $9m and $22m while the most recent disclosure form available on the government website gives her accounts for 2023 and is problematic because it gives one account containing "over $1m" without stating an upper limit. If you take that as being between $1m and $5m in line with her other entries, you get an overall range of $9m to $25m. There is no indication of 'kickbacks'. People get wealthier from perfectly legal things outside their day job. See how it works?
Meanwhile no proof of supposed 'kickbacks' so just more fake news then.
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She reported a net between $6.7m and $16.5m when she started at USAID.
As far as I can tell, after some research, this range appears a product of the right wing echo chamber. The professional journalist at the BBC give $9m - $22m. The overall range today is, the BBC calculates, up to $25m not so much more, And as already noted, someone who makes money and with a day job, who already has substantial assets, could simply be doing well without there being any suspicion necessary. I mean, Trump is very wealthy, with a day job... and he is a felon.
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Let me decide. Where is the original source for her supposedly reporting a net only between $6.7m and $16.5m when she started at USAID (i.e. not just right wing echoes)? Oh yes, sorry forgot, that would represent 'spoon feeding'. Very convenient.
Those are financial disclosures filed by her in January 2021, but according to BBC, their numbers are different than hers, so either she lied or the BBC lied. Which is it? ...
It's not a complicated question and the answer should be simple.
Nevertheless; you are too disingenuous to provide a straight and honest answer.
Therefore; Evasion, Deflection and Gaslighting noted.
Those are financial disclosures filed by her in January 2021,
So you keep repeating with no real idea of from where these figures came from.
but according to BBC, their numbers are different than hers, so either she lied or the BBC lied.
I'd say neither. I'd say that 'Inside Biden's Basement' - in effect your source, even though you don't admit it - is not a reliable but likely a partisan one. It estimated Samantha Power's worth was between $10m and $30m - without a breakdown of the figures or methodology. Most of those figures relating to her are published in a range, as already noted, so it cannot be an exact tally. Please what I said back at the start. It is not a question of 'lying' it is a question of not being able to be precise.
In any case the point still remains that one can be very successful away from one's day job. Don't make me state the obvious again.
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Once again all you offer is the argument and take on matters all, ultimately, supplied from the partisan 'Inside Biden's Basement' which can be met or explained quite reasonably - as I have shown.
You gaslighted, deflected and evaded my simple question.
The simple answer to your simple question is the same: that the figures supposedly quoted by just one partisan website, and then echoed around, were not rigorous in presentation, being with no methodology. They ultimately only provided an estimate based on a range. i.e. they were not accurate enough to prove anyone a 'liar'- except of course the site which claims exactitude where it is not possible. Or, indeed, anyone who says the BBC quotes precise figures contradicting hers when in fact what it says, quite clearly, is "As such, the range of results returned when estimating Power's wealth are wide ".
And, as you spurn fact checkers to show otherwise, that must be the end of it.
PS: Stop throwing rhetorical terms around that you never example. It is unconvincing.
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There's no point in making such allegations without being more specific.
Either she lied or the BBC lied.
Please check my last answer.
You're too stupid to concede that it was her own disclosure of the net worth.
As already said, figures were given that were within a range and so all we can do is make an estimate. And Biden's Basement is not an authoritative site and without fact checkers it is just your word against mine. The last time I shall tell you the obvious.
What estimates, even if her max was 16.5m when she started with USAID, it doesn't explain how she made 13.5m in the next 3-years earning 180K a year. And yes, you're too stupid to answer something so simple.
I can't bothered to repeat things. Please see my previous answers and read them carefully..try and understand what, say, 'range' or 'methodology' mean
you're too stupid to answer something so simple.
With this, after all I have carefully explained, sometimes twice or more, it is unfortunately you who are moonlighting - in addition to being conveniently obtuse, Have a nice day.
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These are just more baseless claims from DOGE. She was already wealthy from her career as a Harvard professor who wrote several books and received speaking fees. Her husband is a law professor so he's making big bucks. The BBC link below determined that there was not a big increase in wealth in her net worth filings. She should sue Musk for defamation.
Yes. She married the older professor and they teach a class together. She filled out financial disclosure forms that the BBC reporter analyzed in the article that I posted above. She's 54 and her husband is 70.
The numbers on the forms are all ranges and estimates so it's not precise. The BBC analysis states that the 2021 number was $9M to $22M while the 2023 number was $9M to $25M. The BBC concluded that there was not a significant increase in wealth. The stock market was doing well over that period her multi-million portfolio could have done well during that time.
From the BBC article:
The claim appears to come from a website called Inside Biden's Basement, which estimated that Samantha Power was worth between $10m and $30m.
There is no breakdown of the figure or methodology but it does include three of Power's government ethics disclosure forms from 2021-22.
These forms show Power's income from various sources, including her teaching salary, investments, payments for speaking engagements and book royalties.
Most of those figures are published in a range, such as shares in a particular company being worth between $15,000 and $50,000 or a bank account containing between $1m and $5m. As such, the range of results returned when estimating Power's wealth are wide.
BBC Verify added up the income and investments from the form that Power submitted before she was sworn in as administrator in 2021, in which her wealth and income come out at between about $9m and $22m.
The most recent disclosure form available on the government website gives her accounts for 2023 and is problematic because it gives one account containing "over $1m" without stating an upper limit. If you take that as being between $1m and $5m in line with her other entries, you get an overall range of $9m to $25m.
The guy on social media LIED and you are spreading his lies. He just misread the forms. The forms are ranges and estimates. I contend that the forms don't have to be exact since it would be burdensome for officials to pay accountants, lawyers and appraisers to provide valuations, audits, etc.
Even if her net amount was at the max of her [email protected], how can she be worth 30m after 3-years @180K? ... So either she lied about her net or the BBC is lying. Which is it?
I don't need to go back and forth with a troll. I'll trust the analysis of the journalists employed by the BBC over some guy posting disinformation on social media.
He's just being obtuse, determined to see some sort of corruption and not accepting that the figures represent a range before she started, of $9-22m i.e not a definite figure. And there is no reason why she cannot have made money perfectly legitimately through investments away from her salary. He's been told this thrice now.
For someone who criticised others believing fake news and biased websites tv evidently takes disproportionate faith in just one: 'Inside Biden's Basement'. You know, "muh source" says as he has it of others.
That troll never posts his sources but he's always dismissing the mainstream media sources as propaganda. The troll is either an idiot or a Russian bot since Russian bots want to generate distrust in western institutions and mislead people with disinformation posted on social media. I would never rely on social media for news but I check it out for entertainment.
Where are the records of "legitimate investments" for the "extra millions" above the ranges reported from any of the sources while only making 180K in those 3-years?
Samantha Power's financial disclosures from 2021, when she was nominated to be the USAID Administrator, showed assets estimated to be between $6.7 million and $16.5 million.
These disclosures are part of the Office of Government Ethics (OGE) Form 278e, which public officials must file to report their financial interests.
It is not a question of 'lying' it is a question of not being able to be precise.
It doesn't have to be precise if she is unable no prove how she made those extra millions.
If she had proof, then the issue would not have been raised.
And yes, people lie, especially when it involves corrupt money.
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Where are the records of "legitimate investments" for the "extra millions" above the ranges reported from any of the sources while only making 180K in those 3-years?
Something, one notes that your source for all this, Biden's Basement has not uncovered. But their absence proves nothing either way - other than your desperate flinging of mud and suspicion. And, come to that, why should anyone take the partisan Biden's Basement as true in particular for anything?
Samantha Power's financial disclosures from 2021, when she was nominated to be the USAID Administrator, showed assets estimated to be between $6.7 million and $16.5 million.
QED. That is why, given a range of figures, estimates can vary, one of my points all along. Thank your for admitting that.
It doesn't have to be precise if she is unable no prove how she made those extra millions.
I think by this you mean prove .. to you . I don't think she need worry about that.
If she had proof, then the issue would not have been raised.
And if the proof was there and fact checked, you would not believe the facts. Her most recent disclosure form is on the the Govt website for all to see. Have you even bothered to look at it?
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Just give it up, It has all been explained and the contexts given before, And since you don't use fact checkers (or offer sources) then none of what you say has been checked or is even sourced.
read below the description on the right hand side.
First: ''Secure .gov websites use HTTPS. Secure .gov websites use HTTPS A lock (Lock) or https:// means you’ve safely connected to the .gov website. "
I can't see either of those things on the site you have offered me when I visit. Why do you think that would be?
Secondly it is not clear to what the site refers to. There is no mention of 'left wing sites' for instance, and if it is a hangover from Biden days that focus would be unlikely.
Or if "“ACTIVE SOCIAL ENGINEERING DEFENSE (ASED) LARGE SCALE SOCIAL DECEPTION (LSD)” refers to projects of a lying government itself that it is you are suggesting, why cannot the word 'defence' actually mean that the government is intent on countering fake news from whatever source?
Finally, why are you asking me to believe things I am told on a website from supposed lying big government - which you, er, otherwise always condemn out of hand as a source of anything that can be trusted? I don't know either lol
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As perhaps you know, gaslighting is a psychological manipulation technique that causes someone to doubt their own reality often by attributing things to them that they did not say or mean. Feel free to examine this sample, chosen under tv's catch-all claim for "gaslighting, deflecting and sophistries." LOL reply share
thats just a random website and doesnt prove anything. did you investigate yourself? I want to see the real evidence not conspiracy theories from the dark web.
I was needing W2 forms and income proof. in this case I will trust DOGE and Trump. the truth will come out and she will be going to jail with all the other rich Oligarchs.
1, It is highly unlikely BBC Media action would be lying about being independent of the BBC and yet actually closely associated with it. Unless this is your assumption here. And you still have not yet shown that BBC News gets anything from USAID.
2, The BBC website figure is grand accounting for all of the BBC's funding, which includes parts of it which are under its umbrella but independent of it.
3. There may well be issues in the US helping to fund a charity working to further press freedom (hard to think what they are though) but at least get your facts right.
Once again for the hard of understanding: the BBC website figure is grand accounting for all of the BBC's funding, which obviously includes parts of it which are under its umbrella but independent of it.
You still haven't answered why Media Action would lie about being independent of the BBC when one would suppose they would best know. Evasion noted.
And you STILL haven't told me why Media Action would lie about their status if it can be easily checked, - and why they wouldn't be the best placed to know these things.
you STILL haven't told me why Media Action would lie about their status if it can be easily checked, - and why they wouldn't be the best placed to know these things.#
edit UPDATE tv thinks that Media Action are being paid by the UK Govt to lie about their real status!
They are funded by the US government that's why they would lie.
At least, unlike tv, you actually answer the obvious question lol.
So, then: Action Media are lying and presumably have just been caught out by a vigilant right wingers? And all this time the UK right-wing media, often BBC-bashers, have been so remiss on matters, so as not to report on matters ,even when the lies are so public and prominent?
They've even admitted to being funded by the US government.
Yes Media Action and the BBC are quite open about it. Such shame, accepting money to help press freedom around the world! What gall, making it publicly known!
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both sites are propaganda sources being funded by the gov to lie.
So let's get this straight. Media Action is being funded by the UK Govt to lie about being independent of the BBC? What would be the point of that? Would it look good for the establishment if such prominent and public lies were noticed by the media? LOL
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Both BBC sources are being funded by the UK gov and the US gov via USAID to spew propaganda.
I ask again: What would be the point of that? Would it look good for the establishment if such prominent and public lies were noticed by the media? LOL
And you know this stuff, despite not needing being spoonfed by fact checkers or reliable sources? Got it. LOL
Er, btw how does fighting for press freedom around the world equate to 'spewing propaganda' exactly?
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Like the ones who take as an authoritative source, sites like er, 'Biden's Basement'?
In the case of Media Acton, do you mean to brainwash them into fighting for, er, press freedom? And you haven't answered whether it would look good for the establishment if such prominent and public lies were noticed by the media? If it was such a devious, underhand conspiracy, then why was the funding of Media Action such a well known and public thing as to be noted on their website? Wouldn't that enervate all that insidious propaganda? reply share
Those are just lies spread on social media by random trolls. THe BBC news organization is not funded by USAID. USAID did donate to BBC Media Action, a charity that trains journalists in the developing world. Many nations in the developing world do not have a free press so the mission of BBC Media Action is to train journalists in the developing world.
No. You're illiterate. The statement is from BBC Media Action, the charitable organization that is an offshoot of the BBC News organization. They are separate entities. I'll trust the journalists employed by France 24 over some guy posting disinformation on social media.
You're also illiterate. BBC Media Action is the charitable organization that operates separately from the BBC News Organization. BBC Media Action trains journalists in the developing world.
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THe BBC news organization is not funded by USAID. USAID did donate to BBC Media Action, a charity that trains journalists in the developing world. Many nations in the developing world do not have a free press so the mission of BBC Media Action is to train journalists in the developing world.
Please link to a authoritative source then that tells us that BBC Media is not independent from the BBC . Or that BBC News was paid for by USAID. All one can do is show you of what they say themselves, when they ought to be best placed to know. Evasion will be noted,
Are you saying they are lying or would not know for sure?
The figures on the BBC website are for funding for everything associated with the BBC, even those bits independent of it. Glad to help.
But even so, er. weren't you among those who refused to take what the BBC itself says about the matter? And yet you quote their website back to me (without a link as usual)?
I didn't say they were separate. I said they are independent. Different emphasis.
But you haven't said: when Media Action say they are independent of the BBC, they are lying? And why would they do that? Is this another conspiracy I see before me lol?
A free press is essential to freedom and democracy - and 75% of countries around the world do not have a free press. BBC Media Action supports local media around the world to deliver trusted information to people most in need.
Like many international development organizations, BBC Media Action has been affected by the temporary pause in US government funding, which amounts to about 8% of our income in 2023-24. We're doing everything we can to minimize the impact on our partners and the people we serve."
BBC Media Action is a charity that operates independently of the BBC News Organization. USAid is not funding the BBC News Organization. They are funding the BBC Charity.
Please show where the BBC NEWS arm it is said got help from USAID. That you won't be able to is precisely why you clowns can't be taken seriously. There may well be an issue in the US funding that part of the BBC which promotes press freedom worldwide (though hard to think what it might be) but at least get your facts right.
I'm from the US so I'm not an expert on the license fee. I believe the license fee is paid by Brits and it partially funds the BBC News operations. Some lady was complaining that the British government separately funded BBC Media Action. I just know that the BBC operates all over the world and they provide the news in several different languages as well as documentaries. I used to login to their website and listen to documentaries on educational topics.
This sort of "insider trading" that leads to wealth acquisition by public service figures is not only not criminalized, it's common knowledge at this point.
There are internet groups that follow the investments of Nancy Pelosi and her husband for the purpose of knowing which stocks to buy that are about to go up. There is nothing special about this instance of Samantha Power doing the same.