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Could we be heading for the Cold War II


With all this Russia Vs NATO talk. Could we be heading back to the days of 1945-1991?

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Like the man says,

A life lived in fear is a life half lived.

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Heading? It's been on since 2014.

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This.

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We've been in a cold war for a few years now, it is a hot one we have to worry about now, especially if Putin is emboldened by appeasement.

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Well I have read that he considers the UK and USA allowing to Ukraine to use NATO weapons to attack Russia as a sign that the countries are involved in the conflict.

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That is true, and he has stated as much today. But then the West could say the same of the N Korean troops he is now employing, or all those drones from Iran.

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I am in the UK and while the rest of Europe is preparing for all out war Starmer has said he will make no preparations or precautions and is even cutting our military.

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I have not heard a 'will make no preparations or precautions' comment reported in the press, which one would have thought the right wing media would have jumped on. But it is certainly true that, after an early defence review, the Defence Secretary aims to save £500m by reducing or dispensing with out of date, or poor equipment - a slightly different perspective on things.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14105837/Brits-NOT-told-prepare-nuclear-war-Russia-Ukraine.html

This is what I was referring to.

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Fair enough; but, reading the story it is about the UK not now following other's advice to their citizens over on how to seek shelter and what to do in case of a nuclear attack, or similar advice issued by their Baltic neighbours Norway and Denmark, which both put out checklists for food and medicine supplies. This is not the same as making 'no' preparations or precautions at all, especially, in military terms against potential attack which you implied. Also, the Daily Mail is a right wing rag..

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I am just getting flashbacks to 2020 when Covid first spread and other European countries were passing social distancing mandates and Boris Johnson did nothing until a bit later.

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Yes that delay cost the UK dearly as well as the neglect of care homes.

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This is why I think we should be following Sweden, Germany etc in telling people how to prepare.

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Putin wants us in the West to be intimidated. It only works if we let it.

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What about China, Iran and North Korea; his allies?

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China wants stability above all else. Iran is weak. North Korea is crazy so who knows with them but they aren't a far projecting force.

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Unfortunately there is no way to prepare for a nuclear strike with any realistic chance of survival for most.

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These military cuts on top of social ones are just crazy in the context of appreciating the fact that the UK has given nearly £14 billion to Ukraine since this conflict began!

£14 billion. And you know where you can bet the vast majority of that has gone?

No, not in Zelenskyy pockets (although I wouldn't bet against a chunk of it finding its way there) but off to the United States and into the coffers of private arms manufacturing companies.

Total joke... "Great" britain.

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Unbelievable. Just posted this, then was having a look on Twitter to find Blackrock trending:-
https://x.com/pavyg/status/1859711263422677300

Honestly, I think we're all total clowns here. Said to Mrs FootOfDavros earlier this evening it wouldn't even really be that surprising to find Putin was in on the swindle...

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You can’t keep something this good just for yourself.

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We need to hit III first before we can backtrack to II.

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America has actually been in the middle of a Cold Civil War for the past 8 years. We just didn't call it that outright. We're currently just calling it, "The Culture Wars."

Not sure if whatever is going on overseas between us and the bad guys could be considered a "cold war."

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